Zach vs. Bosh
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Jemini80 wrote:i love when people point to a TEAM's record and blame it on one player or credit one player for it. I'm sure the Blazer's better record has NOTHING to do with Roy, Webster, and Outlaw all taking their game to the next level. But I guess Toronto's record is all because of Bosh and has nothing to do with him playing next to a top 7 PGin the league and the best backup PG in the league. And then Randolph gets blamed even though the only 2 players on his team that deserve to be starters in the league are him and Lee and they play the same position. The Knicks have no PG and Crawful takes the majority of shots.
But sure, compare their teams to show that one is better. I'd rather watch them play and notice they are both selfish players who are only pure offensive threats. Bosh is soft, and is not the great help defender you think he is, but i wouldn't expect a homer to understand that. I hate Bosh and Randolph equally, they both ahve all the talent in the world and do not use it correctly to make their teammates better. They are both equals, and this argument is sounding like more Raptor homerism, and in 2 years you will agree with me when Bosh has yet to lead you past the first round and one of TJ or Jose are gone so they cannot carry your team and install automatic chemistry.

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Jemini80 wrote:i love when people point to a TEAM's record and blame it on one player or credit one player for it. I'm sure the Blazer's better record has NOTHING to do with Roy, Webster, and Outlaw all taking their game to the next level.
[Hmmm, I wonder who was traded so that Roy, Webster, Outlaw, and LaMarcus could develop more and take their game to the next level. Oh, yeah, selfish Zach.]
But I guess Toronto's record is all because of Bosh and has nothing to do with him playing next to a top 7 PGin the league and the best backup PG in the league.
[Consideing that Ford has been a non-factor this season due to injury's, and the supporting cast of Parker, Barney, Delfino, Rasho, Hump, and Kapono is average at best, I'd say yes, Bosh has had a big impact on our record. Do you even watch any Raptor games? Probably not.]
And then Randolph gets blamed even though the only 2 players on his team that deserve to be starters in the league are him and Lee and they play the same position. The Knicks have no PG and Crawful takes the majority of shots.
[I wonder who absolutely controlled the offense (like Crawford does in NY)last season in Portland?]
But sure, compare their teams to show that one is better. I'd rather watch them play and notice they are both selfish players who are only pure offensive threats.
[Selfish? Yeah, he is very selfish. Wait. Oh, Mike James, Moe Pete, TJ, Calderon, Parker, Delfino, and even Villanueva have all had or are having career years with Bosh. Damn he is selfish. You are right about Zach though. His team mates only had career years when he left. At least you've stopped the bull about Bosh's offensive game.]
Bosh is soft, and is not the great help defender you think he is, but i wouldn't expect a homer to understand that.
[Bosh is as good as a help defender as I think he is, but I wouldn't expect a hater who never watches Raptor games to know that. (I'm assuming you don't because your posts are laughably wrong on too many counts)]
I hate Bosh and Randolph equally, they both ahve all the talent in the world and do not use it correctly to make their teammates better.
[Again, people have had career years with Bosh, not with Zach. Bosh is not selfish. Watch him play, not the boxscores.]
They are both equals, and this argument is sounding like more Raptor homerism, and in 2 years you will agree with me when Bosh has yet to lead you past the first round and one of TJ or Jose are gone so they cannot carry your team and install automatic chemistry.
[In the next 2 years you will agree with me when you see the Raps in the second round or even ECF (maybe in 4) and Bosh leading the way. The Raptors play as a team, the most ignorant thing you can say is that Jose or Ford (individually too!) carry this team. If anyone carries this team, you bet your ass its Bosh.]
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This is Bosh easily.
Both aren't the greatest defenders, but there's enough to say Bosh is improving in that aspect and a better defender than Randolph (at least Bosh averages over a block a game). They're comparable rebounders, but Bosh is the much more dangerous scorer and far more efficient especially considering Bosh started the season slow.
Both aren't the greatest defenders, but there's enough to say Bosh is improving in that aspect and a better defender than Randolph (at least Bosh averages over a block a game). They're comparable rebounders, but Bosh is the much more dangerous scorer and far more efficient especially considering Bosh started the season slow.
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Jemini80 wrote:Both are role players and neither should be the #1 option on a team. Bosh is soft, Zach is not.
Rite.....role players???? how can a franchise player, and one of the best young big men in the league be a role player??? And how is he soft?? he averages 8.7 free throw attempts per game, thats 10th in the league, it shows his willingness to take it strong to the hole