Top starters in each conference

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Post#1 » by robertjanssen007 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:53 pm

Because I have a lot of time on my hands. I apologize if I get some of the starters wrong because a lot of these I'm just winging it and I know that they are ever so changing.

Centers

East

Dwight
Illgauskas
R. Wallace
Bogut
Dalembert
Horford
B Haywood
Curry
Murphy
Bargnani
Nazr
Perkins
Boone
Blount
Noah


West

Yao
Jefferson
Camby
Kaman
Bynum
Chandler
Biedrins
Oden (wild guess)
B. Miller
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Post#2 » by Schad » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:58 pm

The first thing that I noticed: you're definitely underrating Haywood. I would put him above Curry, Murphy and Bargnani, with some room to spare.
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Post#3 » by Kabookalu » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:33 pm

Yeah Haywood was making an argument for himself as the second best center in the east. I don't really agree with it, but those ideas aren't unwarranted.

I'd also put Dunleavy below Stevenson and Parker.
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Post#4 » by jeff1624 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:37 pm

East Centers: Boone over Nazr and Perkins

East PF: Aldridge is in the west, Haslem is too low while ben wallace is too high

East SF: Seems about right...

East SG: Allen over Crawford.

East PG: Harris over Tinsley and Felton

East Bench players: Sean Williams should be in there somewhere

West Centers: Darko should be last for his lackluster season..

West PF: drop brand a bit seeing as he's injured and we really dont know how strong he'll come back...

West SF: Anthony should be first, Gay over kirilenko and peja over hill and maggette.

West SG: seems right

West PG: Kidd should be third on that list...
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Post#5 » by hermes » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:59 pm

for the west bench get luke walton out of there and put in sasha
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Post#6 » by sca » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:07 pm

You're severely underrating Ray Allen and overrating Michael Redd.

Larry Hughes has no business in the best bench players grup btw.
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Post#7 » by farzi » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:47 pm

kevin martin isn't better than Roy
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Post#8 » by ice9 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:59 pm

Sefolosha has been far from the worst starting sg in the East.
As a starter (21 games):

12.1/5.9/2.5/1.43/.71
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Post#9 » by robertjanssen007 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:44 pm

I actually will move Hayward ahead of Curry.

Dunleavy's a better impact player than Stevenson/Parker.

Boone is interchangable with Perkins but I give Nazr's experience the upper edge over the other two. Putting Aldridge in the East was a mistake and will be corrected. Haslem is not better than McDyess or a healthy Krstic. I think Ben Wallace has turned the corner now playing for Cleveland which is why I will leave him where he is. Allen over Crawford is debatable but I give the edge to Crawford since Allen is on the decline and Crawford is a way more capable scorer. I expect Harris to be at least better than Tinsley at the end of the season but right now, he's still an up-and-comer and doesn't "dish out" as much as Tinsley/Felton. Yeah Sean Williams has potential and can block but he's not going ahead of James Posey. Darko is at the very least better than Oberto and Collison, even with his disappointing season. Dampier is a closer debate but I find Darko to be more offensively capable. The Elton Brand that I remember is what I am rating. Looking at things now, Josh Howard isn't that much better than Carmelo Anthony. He's no way better than Ron Artest, though. However, the current Lamar Odom who now has new life since the Gasol trade is better than Melo. So I will put Melo above S-Jax. Gay is getting stats on a bad team--on that note, I will put him ahead of AK47. Corey Maggette is definitely better than both Hill/Peja. Hill/Peja I actually see interchangable these days skill-wise and will leave as is. Jason Kidd is staying put at #5.

If that's the case, I'll just remove Walton entirely.

Nah. Ray Allen is on the decline. The guy used to be a superstar and now he's just a great player. I can see why you say I am overrating Redd but 2-6 for East SGs are all so close. Carter/Johnson are all struggling this season and J-Rich isn't his Warrior self anymore. If anything, no shooting guards in the east are that impressive compared to the West. Yeah Larry Hughes sucks but he did play well before he got traded so I gave him the benefit of the doubt to be good enough to be included.

It's a really tough question. Roy is definitely going to be the better baller but right now, I'd give it to Martin.

Yeah, I guess Sefolosha hasn't been too bad. I'll put him ahead of Green at least.

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Post#10 » by CatNation » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:38 am

youre overrating hedo insanely
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Post#11 » by Illuminati » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:41 am

Rasheed > Ilg
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Post#12 » by J~Rush » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:44 am

Is Ginobili starting these days? Also Travis Outlaw should be high on the bench list.
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Post#13 » by HarlemHeat37 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:49 am

Centers
Dwight

Sheed

Illgauskas
Bogut
Dalembert
Haywood
Horford

Murphy
Bargnani
Curry

Boone
Perkins
Nazr

Blount
Noah

West
Yao

Jefferson
Camby
Kaman
Bynum

Shaq
Chandler

B. Miller
Biedrins
Okur

Collison
Oberto
Dampier
Milicic

PF
Garnett

Bosh

Jamison
J.Smith

Okafor
Lewis
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Post#14 » by sca » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:50 pm

What makes people think Anthony Parker is worse than DeShawn Stevenson? I mean, there's a good chance that he's better than him at everything.
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Post#15 » by robertjanssen007 » Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:47 pm

DJ, I might be overrating Hedo a little bit but not insanely. Iggy/Wallace might put up better stats but I see Hedo as the better impact player.

Illuminati, that may be the case though it's a tough call for me. But I just don't want to put a PF playing C in 2nd place for a conference. Rasheed Wallace should be one of the most dominant big men for the past 5 seasons. Illgauskas has been an extremely consistent C over the years so I gave it to him.

J~Rush, yup, Ginobili is starting these days. Also, I put Travis Outlaw in the starting lineup for some reason. Guess I was wrong?

HarlemHeat, great list. Maybe I am underrating Carmelo Anthony. Also, you have Lamar Odom ranked pretty low but again with the arrival of Gasol, he has turned into what he should have been the entire time and that is a versatile big man. Maggette and Gay have nothing on Odom. Also, Crawford over Allen I see you didn't take well but again, as I said earier, I just find him a way more capable scorer these days. Besides that, not major differences. Nice list.

ScaLoPhobiA, I think Stevenson is having his best season so far which is why I gave him the edge over the declining AP.
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Post#16 » by Man_Up » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:15 pm

HarlemHeat37 wrote:Centers
Dwight

Sheed

Illgauskas
Bogut
Dalembert
Haywood
Horford

Murphy
Bargnani
Curry

Boone
Perkins
Nazr

Blount
Noah

West
Yao

Jefferson
Camby
Kaman
Bynum

Shaq
Chandler

B. Miller
Biedrins
Okur

Collison
Oberto
Dampier
Milicic

PF
Garnett

Bosh

Jamison
J.Smith

Okafor
Lewis
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Rondo doesn't believe in easy buckets...
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Post#17 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:25 pm

man up good list. i think u have calderon and pierce on a tier they dont deserve but other then that i agree with ur list
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Post#18 » by Man_Up » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:40 pm

It's not my list.

I agree I'd probably put Calderon in the tier with Miller, Felton and Bibby.

But I think Pierce is right where he should be. He's a better player than both Butler, and Marion, IMO.
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