RealGM NBA/ABA All-Time Franchise Ranking - #11

Post #1 » by **trex_8063** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:31 am

1. Minneapolis/Los Angeles Lakers
2. Boston Celtics
3. Dallas Chaparrals, San Antonio Spurs
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Syracuse Nationals/Philadelphia 76ers
6. Philly/SF/Golden State Warriors
7. Miami Heat
8. Fort Wayne/Detroit Pistons
9. Houston Rockets
10. New York Knicks

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26. Vancouver/Memphis Grizzlies
27. New Orleans Hornets/Pelicans
28. Charlotte Bobcats/Hornets
29. Buffalo Braves/(San Diego)/Los Angeles Clippers
30. Minnesota Timberwolves

eminence · Post #2 » by **eminence** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:38 am

Pacers/Blazer my 1st thoughts. Have to think a bit about how I weight ABA I think.

Post #3 » by **penbeast0** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:44 pm

I go with Indiana over OKC/Seattle. More consistent good teams, less disappointments, and although the ABA championships were less competitive than the NBA ones in those earlier years, it's close enough that their 3 championships is more impressive to me than Seattle's one. As a fan, I'd love to be a Pacer fan. The ABA history is cool. They've had disappointments, but the team has never been a tanker/quitter and always seems to be trying.

Vote: Pacers

Post #4 » by **trex_8063** » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:25 pm

eminence wrote:Pacers/Blazer my 1st thoughts. Have to think a bit about how I weight ABA I think.

I also think the Sonics/Thunder, and maybe the Jazz, Suns, and Hawks need a bit of consideration, too. The next several spots seem really competitive at a glance. I feel like the Pacers, Sonics/Thunder, and maybe the Blazers are my top three contenders for this spot, but need to think on it a bit.

Post #5 » by **trex_8063** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:15 am

rs Win%
Sonics/Thunder - .542
Jazz - .539
Trailblazers - .538
Suns - .529
Pacers - .514 (.502 in NBA)

% of Seasons in the Playoffs
Trailblazers - .714
Pacers - .673 (.605 in NBA)
Jazz - .622
Sonics/Thunder - .596
Suns - .569

% of Seasons going as far as Conference Finals
Pacers - .288 (.186 in NBA)
Sonics/Thunder - .192
Suns - .176
Trailblazers - .143
Jazz - .133

% of Seasons going to Finals
Pacers - .115 (.023 in NBA)
Sonics/Thunder - .077
Trailblazers - .061
Jazz - .044
Suns - .039

% of Seasons Winning Title
Pacers - .058 (n/a in NBA)
Trailblazers - .020
Sonics/Thunder - .019
Jazz - n/a
Suns - n/a

In looking thru this, the Bucks are certainly in the same league as some of these teams, too, fwiw.

Anyway, based on above, it's definitely too early for the Suns or Jazz; so it's definitely between my original three top candidates.

I'm gonna go with the Indiana Pacers for my vote. Weighting the ABA stuff is difficult, but if we give it much credit at all, it's hard to go against them at this point.
Probably the Sonics/Thunder would be my second pick, so I can't fault anyone going with them.

Post #6 » by **trex_8063** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:24 pm

Vote right now is 2 votes Pacers.......and that's it. Anyone else?

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eminence · Post #7 » by **eminence** » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:27 pm

I'll vote Pacers as well, solid NBA history and real ABA giants.

Post #8 » by **trex_8063** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:38 am

Unfortunate turnout, but I guess I'll call this one for the Pacers. Will have #12 up in minute.....

Post #9 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:01 am

Sorry, this is just not a great couple of weeks for me in terms of available time. It should get better by next week.

Dr Positivity · Post #10 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:25 am

I missed this but I am fine with the Pacers, I had them neck and neck with the Knicks