How close are Curry / Reggie Miller as playoffs performers?

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How close are they ?

Curry slightly
6
22%
Curry clearly
16
59%
Miller slightly
4
15%
Miller clearly
1
4%
 
Total votes: 27

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Re: How close are Curry / Reggie Miller as playoffs performers? 

Post#21 » by 1993Playoffs » Tue Apr 5, 2022 11:37 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:wow, i didnt see that coming, i may need to revaluate how good reggie actually was


I think Reggie Miller has a strong case for being the best offensive player in the NBA in '93-94, so yeah, the degree to which people at the time failed to grasp how good Miller was was hard to overstate. They just fundamentally didn't understand Miller's role, which makes sense, because for the most part people still don't understand what Curry's doing, and he's playing the Miller role 30 years after Miller. The lag in understanding is something awful.

One thing I want to say about what people say in this thread:

People are confused when they see Miller "being his best" but Curry "failing to be himself" as a general playoff rule.

The reality is that they were both playing the same style in their signature years, but that because Miller scored so little in the regular season flow, defenses weren't committing everything to try to stop his playoff volume the way they do with Curry. That's not intended as an excuse for Curry though for 2 reasons:

1. The ORtg is the thing to focus on rather than the individual's PPG in general, and particularly so in a role which by definition encourages defenses to open gaping holes for the player's teammates if the defense gets too scared of his scoring.

2. Curry's much criticized playoff stats are excellent by any reasonable standard.


Great post. I was pretty shocked at the discrepancy in regular season and playoffs performance by Reggie
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Re: How close are Curry / Reggie Miller as playoffs performers? 

Post#22 » by LukaTheGOAT » Wed Apr 6, 2022 4:50 am

falcolombardi wrote:
feyki wrote:
Lenneth wrote:Curry in PO

26.5 pts / 45% FG / 40.1% 3pts / 5.4 rebs / 6.3 asts
18-4 series win/loss, 3 championships

Miller in PO

20.6 pts / 44.9% FG / 39% 3pts / 2.9 rebs / 2.5 asts
14-15 series win/loss, 0 championship.

I don't think it's that close.


Miller till the 37:
23,5 PPG, 2,6 APG, +9 rTS, +17 rORtg.

Curry:
26,5 PPG, 6,3 APG, +6,5 rTS, +9 rORtg.

Miller put his %100 potential on the playoffs, but besides easy series Curry always was in the panic.


reggie offenses were better thsn curry's?!

wow, i didnt see that coming, i may need to revaluate how good reggie actually was


From 91-2001 the average defensive efficiency of Indiana’s postseason opponent’s was around 102 per 100 possessions, and yet in the PD, the Pacers still scored 109.5 points per 100.

Along with Magic and Kobe, Reggie is one of three players in history to play on two separate teams with five-year stretches of +5 playoff offenses. He never had the onslaught of offensive help those two had either.

They clearly outperformed expectations offensively just based on that.

The one year that the Pacers had a below average PS offense was unironically in 96 when Miller was injured. And then they went back to being good offenses in the PS after that.
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Re: How close are Curry / Reggie Miller as playoffs performers? 

Post#23 » by falcolombardi » Wed Apr 6, 2022 5:27 am

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:
feyki wrote:
Miller till the 37:
23,5 PPG, 2,6 APG, +9 rTS, +17 rORtg.

Curry:
26,5 PPG, 6,3 APG, +6,5 rTS, +9 rORtg.

Miller put his %100 potential on the playoffs, but besides easy series Curry always was in the panic.


reggie offenses were better thsn curry's?!

wow, i didnt see that coming, i may need to revaluate how good reggie actually was


From 91-2001 the average defensive efficiency of Indiana’s postseason opponent’s was around 102 per 100 possessions, and yet in the PD, the Pacers still scored 109.5 points per 100.

Along with Magic and Kobe, Reggie is one of three players in history to play on two separate teams with five-year stretches of +5 playoff offenses. He never had the onslaught of offensive help those two had either.

They clearly outperformed expectations offensively just based on that.

The one year that the Pacers had a below average PS offense was unironically in 96 when Miller was injured. And then they went back to being good offenses in the PS after that.


i have come to appreciate reggie a lot but it still surprises me by what extent he was underated

some of those reggie numbers are mindblowing

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