players whose impact metrics dont lineup with their reputations

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Re: players whose impact metrics dont lineup with their reputations 

Post#21 » by jalengreen » Sun May 8, 2022 4:58 am

Morb wrote:You did your job, thanks!
Jordan averaged 43.3 points per 100 possessions throughout his illustrious postseason career, by far the most in NBA history. Next up is Kevin Durant at 37.3.

So, next up is T-Mac? Wow, nice, how you "forgot" him?

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no? tmac averaged 35.2 pp100 in his playoff career.

the 37.6 would be for peaks, in which case the following players would still be ahead

'15-21 KD (38.75, +6.9%)
'15-20 harden (38.66, +3.2%)
'15-21 bron (38.47, +7.6%)
'05-10 kobe (38.07, +4.0%)
'15-21 kawhi (38.01, +7.9%)
'97-02 shaq (37.99, +6.0%)

tmac's rts% being about -0.01%.. not really comparable.

i also didnt look for every player's peak span with the best volume - i looked for each player's peak span with the best combination of volume & efficiency.

so some other arguably better statistical spans with less volume include

'07-12 dirk (37.59, +8.2%)
'16-21 giannis (37.15, +3.4%)
'05-11 wade (36.42, +5.5%)
'14-19 curry (36.34, +7.4%)
'75-80 gervin (35.99, +7.3%)
'73-80 kareem (34.09, +10.4%)

etc
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Re: players whose impact metrics dont lineup with their reputations 

Post#22 » by Morb » Sun May 8, 2022 5:34 am

jalengreen wrote:
Morb wrote:You did your job, thanks!
Jordan averaged 43.3 points per 100 possessions throughout his illustrious postseason career, by far the most in NBA history. Next up is Kevin Durant at 37.3.

So, next up is T-Mac? Wow, nice, how you "forgot" him?

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no? tmac averaged 35.2 pp100 in his playoff career.

the 37.6 would be for peaks, in which case the following players would still be ahead

'15-21 KD (38.75, +6.9%)
'15-20 harden (38.66, +3.2%)
'15-21 bron (38.47, +7.6%)
'05-10 kobe (38.07, +4.0%)
'15-21 kawhi (38.01, +7.9%)
'97-02 shaq (37.99, +6.0%)

Ou, T-Mac '01-'05 put 39.00 on 54%, but only 22 games, OK.


i also didnt look for every player's peak span with the best volume - i looked for each player's peak span with the best combination of volume & efficiency.

But you marked Westbrook and Iverson on your graphic. Maybe T-Mac deserve it?

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Re: players whose impact metrics dont lineup with their reputations 

Post#23 » by jalengreen » Sun May 8, 2022 5:50 am

Morb wrote:
jalengreen wrote:
Morb wrote:You did your job, thanks!

So, next up is T-Mac? Wow, nice, how you "forgot" him?

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no? tmac averaged 35.2 pp100 in his playoff career.

the 37.6 would be for peaks, in which case the following players would still be ahead

'15-21 KD (38.75, +6.9%)
'15-20 harden (38.66, +3.2%)
'15-21 bron (38.47, +7.6%)
'05-10 kobe (38.07, +4.0%)
'15-21 kawhi (38.01, +7.9%)
'97-02 shaq (37.99, +6.0%)

Ou, T-Mac '01-'05 put 39.00 on 54%, but only 22 games, OK.


i also didnt look for every player's peak span with the best volume - i looked for each player's peak span with the best combination of volume & efficiency.

But you marked Westbrook and Iverson on your graphic. Maybe T-Mac deserve it?

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yea tmac not being there is definitely a mistake, he should be above those 2. but he isnt #2 all-time behind mj.
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Re: players whose impact metrics dont lineup with their reputations 

Post#24 » by dygaction » Sun May 8, 2022 7:09 am

Morb wrote:
jalengreen wrote:
Morb wrote:Meh.
Manu Ginobili 2001-05 34637 5.01
Ray Allen 2001-05 59629 4.15
Paul Pierce 2001-05 70297 4.00
Baron Davis 2001-05 55937 3.90
Steve Francis 2001-05 56474 3.60
Tracy McGrady 2001-05 62800 3.31
Kobe Bryant 2001-05 76224 3.16
Vince Carter 2001-05 51268 3.03
Jason Kidd 2001-05 72180 3.02
Richard Hamilton 2001-05 65346 2.51
Metta World Peace 2001-05 41667 2.45
Steve Nash 2001-05 67628 2.05
Gilbert Arenas 2001-05 40140 1.86
Michael Jordan 2001-05 18114 1.82
Mike Bibby 2001-05 65841 1.63
Allen Iverson 2001-05 68730 1.58
Peja Stojakovic 2001-05 68135 1.47
Stephon Marbury 2001-05 62231 1.09
Tayshaun Prince 2001-05 37726 1.02
Chauncey Billups 2001-05 61649 0.46
Rick Fox 2001-05 39525 0.45
Bruce Bowen 2001-05 60032 -0.01

Also, this author "forgot" about Holy T-Mac '01-'05 in this topic.
https://www.thespax.com/nba/the-nbas-most-prolific-playoff-scorers-since-1973/

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woah, i never thought that this guy:

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was on realgm. i joked with my friends that this morb guy must be tracy mcgrady

but yeah this is what i get for tmac's statistical playoff multi-season scoring peaks:

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IIRC i may have used a 30 GP requirement? if so 02-08 should've made the cut with 38 points scored per 100 possessions on aprx even relative efficiency

You did your job, thanks!
Jordan averaged 43.3 points per 100 possessions throughout his illustrious postseason career, by far the most in NBA history. Next up is Kevin Durant at 37.3.

So, next up is T-Mac? Wow, nice, how you "forgot" him?

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A new sheriff in town - Luka has it at 44.2 points per 100 after 19 games over the past three years.

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