The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1)

[Arman_tanzarian]

There is currently a great project going on on GSOM by the user @Apricot. It is meant to unveil the playbook of the Warriors step-by-step, so far using one characteristic play with detailed analysis. If anyone is interested analyzing plays and basketball offenses, I highly recommend to have a look at it. Great read and highly informative because you're going to notice things your eye doesn't catch in real-time.

But enough with the introduction, I'll just leave the first links here, so you can see it yourself.

"Spurs Play + Curry = Bogut Dunk"
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2015/10/29/9633006/one-warriors-play-spurs-play-curry-bout-dunk-pelicans-warriors

"Two Spurs Recipes + Stephen Curry = Klay Thompson three"
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2015/10/31/9649486/warriors-vs-rockets-video-analysis-stephen-curry-klay-thompson

"Stephen Curry's absurd no-look backwards pass to Harrison Barnes in New Orleans"
http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2015/11/1/9653400/warriors-vs-pelicans-highlight-stephen-curry-pass-harrison-Barnes-dunk-2015

I figured that it makes the most sense to post it here since a) the right audience for it should be here, b) Curry is obviously vital to basically every play out of the playbook while on the court in one way or another and c) because, like the thread for LeBron, this thread could also be used to talk about the Warriors in general. Have fun guys!

Thanks man, woah nice find.

[CablexDeadpool]

Well Paul is better passer kinda and he plays defense better but a 5'11'' guard defense really does not have huge impact. Curry shooting and scoring out way anything Chris can do to effect games Curry just has a lot more impact on the game.

Chris Paul isn't kinda the better passer, he is the better passer and ballhandler. And Chris Paul is 6'1 according to Draft Express and he is probably the best defensive point guard in the league. And Chris Paul is a comparable shooter to Curry outside of the 3 point shot. Chris Paul shoots comparably to Curry in the midrange area. Chris Paul's control of the game is legendary and he makes that Clippers team go.

Stephen Curry has had one season where he's arguably better than Chris Paul and he still haven't caught up to Chris Paul's overall career and legacy as a player.

Curry will probably totally pass Chris Paul this year but Curry yet hasn't done anything to make he dramatically better than Chris Paul. Chris Paul dropped 19 4.6 10 last year and had an ORTG of 126, an ORTG that was better than Curry's 122.

[RSCD3_]

In case some people dont understand the awe of STEPHEN CURRY

PER 100 POSSESSIONS

56.1 PP100 on 76.0 TS%, 8.1 RP100, 10.5 AP100 on 7.43 AST% / TOV% Ratio
.646 WS/48, 52.3 PER, 19.9 OBPM, 152 Offensive Rating


Now he's using 32.3 FGA/100 and averaging 10.5 FTA/G and here's the only players to avg 30+ http://bkref.com/tiny/Parnd

That would put him 4th all time behind wilt and baylor. Obviously this will slow down a bit but still what a 3 game stretch.

[bballexpert]

Well Paul is better passer kinda and he plays defense better but a 5'11'' guard defense really does not have huge impact. Curry shooting and scoring out way anything Chris can do to effect games Curry just has a lot more impact on the game.

Chris Paul isn't kinda the better passer, he is the better passer and ballhandler. And Chris Paul is 6'1 according to Draft Express and he is probably the best defensive point guard in the league. And Chris Paul is a comparable shooter to Curry outside of the 3 point shot. Chris Paul shoots comparably to Curry in the midrange area. Chris Paul's control of the game is legendary and he makes that Clippers team go.

Stephen Curry has had one season where he's arguably better than Chris Paul and he still haven't caught up to Chris Paul's overall career and legacy as a player.

Curry will probably totally pass Chris Paul this year but Curry yet hasn't done anything to make he dramatically better than Chris Paul. Chris Paul dropped 19 4.6 10 last year and had an ORTG of 126, an ORTG that was better than Curry's 122.

There are few pgs whose defence made a huge difference and Paul defense is not huge impact from alot of the games i seen in ps. Curry offense demands more respect then Paul i mean look how open people get in fear of Curry shot it is unreal dude.

[euliss]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdHvUBvjuDE[/youtube]

As someone who finds Stephs playmaking to be underrated, i think it's going to be really interesting seeing this year how his playmaking develops with Nash on board

[MisterHibachi]

Well Paul is better passer kinda and he plays defense better but a 5'11'' guard defense really does not have huge impact. Curry shooting and scoring out way anything Chris can do to effect games Curry just has a lot more impact on the game.

Chris Paul isn't kinda the better passer, he is the better passer and ballhandler. And Chris Paul is 6'1 according to Draft Express and he is probably the best defensive point guard in the league. And Chris Paul is a comparable shooter to Curry outside of the 3 point shot. Chris Paul shoots comparably to Curry in the midrange area. Chris Paul's control of the game is legendary and he makes that Clippers team go.

Stephen Curry has had one season where he's arguably better than Chris Paul and he still haven't caught up to Chris Paul's overall career and legacy as a player.

Curry will probably totally pass Chris Paul this year but Curry yet hasn't done anything to make he dramatically better than Chris Paul. Chris Paul dropped 19 4.6 10 last year and had an ORTG of 126, an ORTG that was better than Curry's 122.

There are few pgs whose defence made a huge difference and Paul defense is not huge impact from alot of the games i seen in ps. Curry offense demands more respect then Paul i mean look how open people get in fear of Curry shot it is unreal dude.

That's an extremely shallow interpretation. Point guard defense matters a lot. CP was one of the most effective shot deterrents last year and that's not whatever.


http://grantland.com/features/department-of-defense/

CP's offense is deadly. The Clippers have been the best offense in the league the past two years. The results speak for themselves. Fans can't seem to appreciate CP because he's not a flashy player, but he has led the best offense in the league the past two years and he's one of, if not the, best defensive guards in the NBA. Curry seems to have peaked higher, but I don't think the gap is very large.

[SideshowBob]

Memphis doing what they do.

[JLei]

Memphis doing what they do.

Conley is very hard to screen.

Allen is the hardest player to screen in the league.

Wasn't really until they played Allen off the floor by just not guarding him did Curry start to go off in that series. And Conley wasn't 100% in the playoffs.

[JLei]

Ahhh I love Steph Curry...Heat CHECKS!!!

[SideshowBob]

Heh, that didn't take long.

[RSCD3_]

It's crazy but if it was the end of the game and my team was down two points and had I had a lebron with an open path to the lane but curry trailing close behind also open, I'd give curry the open 3 over a guaranteed two points.

Also on a related note memphis needs to blow up

First getting blown up by 30 while lebron himself had a really bad shooting night and now losing by 44 in the third quarter.

I dont know the stats on it but when has a legit contender been blown out by that much twice. I feel they've run their course on the Ground pound and their offense is too limited for today's nba with their personnel, theyve never won a CF game, only getting there in 2013 due to a westbrook injury. They are a treadmill team in the west and I cant see them improving.

However they might be stuck because of their inability to get FA, thus making a rebuild, tank or nothing.

[DreDay]

How scary is it that he's even more consistent this year

[JLei]

He did get most of this when the Grizzles stopped trying since they were down 30. But this was still awesome. So fun to watch.

[Asianiac_24]

I didn't think Curry could possibly get better, but he somehow did. Like his shooting could somehow be improved, it just did over the summer.

[Doctor MJ]

I didn't think Curry could possibly get better, but he somehow did. Like his shooting could somehow be improved, it just did over the summer.

He'll regress to the mean some but I think the big thing isn't that he's actually improved his shooting stroke so much as that he feels more and more free to actually test what he's capable of.

I have a long history of yelling at the screen whenever guys jack up hero shots, but watching Curry last year I found myself realizing that we still don't really have an understanding of what kind of shot is actually a bad shot for him. It's unreal.

[studcrackers]

Well Paul is better passer kinda and he plays defense better but a 5'11'' guard defense really does not have huge impact. Curry shooting and scoring out way anything Chris can do to effect games Curry just has a lot more impact on the game.

Chris Paul isn't kinda the better passer, he is the better passer and ballhandler. And Chris Paul is 6'1 according to Draft Express and he is probably the best defensive point guard in the league. And Chris Paul is a comparable shooter to Curry outside of the 3 point shot. Chris Paul shoots comparably to Curry in the midrange area. Chris Paul's control of the game is legendary and he makes that Clippers team go.

Stephen Curry has had one season where he's arguably better than Chris Paul and he still haven't caught up to Chris Paul's overall career and legacy as a player.

Curry will probably totally pass Chris Paul this year but Curry yet hasn't done anything to make he dramatically better than Chris Paul. Chris Paul dropped 19 4.6 10 last year and had an ORTG of 126, an ORTG that was better than Curry's 122.

in what world does anyone believe chris paul is 6'1?

[DreDay]

Lost in everything is his D is much improved over last season too. His anticipation and help D is much better and his man to man D is noticeably better as well. Crazy how much improvement he's shown.

[NinjaSheppard]

I am just going to say it

If you don't think Steph is the best player in the league and by quite a margin your eyes are malfunctioning

[giordunk]

Do you guys remember how ridiculous this sounded a year ago?

"A better offensive player, me or LeBron? That's the first time I've ever been asked that question. Me," Curry said, in an interview on "The Dan Patrick Show."

[The-Power]

Lost in everything is his D is much improved over last season too. His anticipation and help D is much better and his man to man D is noticeably better as well. Crazy how much improvement he's shown.

Absolutely. Really impressed with his D. It was above average last year but so far into this season it's elite among PGs. He's extremely disruptive as always but the way he anticipates screens and works around them is impressive and the way he manages to stay with his man may have improved as well. Very complete right now.

By the way, three 20+ points quarters in the first four games. Has this ever happened before?