All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain:

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Re: All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain: 

Post#101 » by liamliam1234 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 1:12 pm

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Re: All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain: 

Post#102 » by mstat13shuh » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:06 am

Kendogg, I was just wondering if the Dec. '66 game vs Detroit that I was suggesting is possibly the game in which Wilt blocked 26 shots?

If you're still not certain, are there additional details pertaining to the game which you recall that perhaps I could assist you with?
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Post#103 » by 70sFan » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:57 am

Here 33rd streak game is cited as with 8 blocks. I've just got a tape of this game which is incomplete and I can say that he had at least 6 blocks, which makes number 8 quite realistic.
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Re: All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain: 

Post#104 » by mstat13shuh » Mon Jun 8, 2020 6:40 am

Does anybody have anything new?
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Post#105 » by mstat13shuh » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:17 am

Well, if nobody currently has anything new, would anyone be interested in anything new I've uncovered? If so, feel free to elaborate.
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Post#106 » by 70sFan » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:39 am

mstat13shuh wrote:Well, if nobody currently has anything new, would anyone be interested in anything new I've uncovered? If so, feel free to elaborate.


Anything new would be highly appreciated ;)

I have some new Wilt video material, but not a single full game so I can't add any full data. I can tell you the lowest estimate block numbers Wilt had in some games I have.
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Post#107 » by mstat13shuh » Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:16 pm

Lol, smfh, I guess maybe I shoulda figured you'd ask me for something new.

All jokes aside, I guess what I was mainly referencing was games I've recently found in the paper, or even stuff from at least a year ago, if not longer, where somebody's block totals were reported, not just Wilt, Russell, Thurmond, Kareem, but also someone like Gene Wiley, LeRoy Ellis, Elvin, etc. Maybe some of the other members have recollections of these, and other related games, that they could divulge here.
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Re: All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain: 

Post#108 » by mstat13shuh » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:53 am

Well, if anyone's interested, here's two things I found most recently, 1 somewhat expected, the other, not so much:

1) In 1970 ABA playoff game, Craig Raymond(LA Stars) blocked at least 10 shots in 1st qtr vs Indiana
2) In 1970 ABA Finals game, Mel Daniels recorded 31pts 27reb and no fewer than 10blk(1st unofficial TD I've found of Magnificent Mel, although I'm certain he recorded several more).

The point I'm making here is this:

If Raymond(who, too his credit, wasn't too bad as an ABA journeyman)can blocked 10 or more shots in a quarter at least once, then common sense immediately should damn well tell you that Wilt & Russell would've done this numerous times(although probably more so in the early '60s, and maybe Thurmond a few times as well.
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Post#109 » by mstat13shuh » Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:59 am

Just found this a few days ago:

1970 ABA playoffs: LA Stars vs Dallas Chapparells(now S.A. Spurs) Game 1

Craig Raymond: 18pts 18reb 17 BLOCKED SHOTS!(possible actual ABA record, regular season or playoff, probably most blocks vs Spurs in 1 game, Eaton has official record of 14 back in '89)
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Re: All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain: 

Post#110 » by mstat13shuh » Fri Sep 4, 2020 11:44 pm

This just in:

According to both Russell & Wilt backup Mel Counts: Wilt blocked 16 shots in game 5 of 1970 playoffs vs Suns:

https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/449206-365304-hoops-star-re-counts-his-illustrious-career

Now, for this game, I haven't yet dug through all the L.A. papers to see if any of them reported Wilt's blocks for this game, nonetheless, I'm pretty certain Counts is being honest here. Hopefully he knows more, either way, I feel it's worth a shot.
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Re: All known blocked shot data of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain: 

Post#111 » by HeartBreakKid » Sat Sep 5, 2020 10:24 am

mstat13shuh wrote:This just in:

According to both Russell & Wilt backup Mel Counts: Wilt blocked 16 shots in game 5 of 1970 playoffs vs Suns:

https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/449206-365304-hoops-star-re-counts-his-illustrious-career

Now, for this game, I haven't yet dug through all the L.A. papers to see if any of them reported Wilt's blocks for this game, nonetheless, I'm pretty certain Counts is being honest here. Hopefully he knows more, either way, I feel it's worth a shot.

Thats a lot of blocks
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Post#112 » by countryboy667 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 10:19 pm

At a game against the old Cincinnati Royals I counted Wilt having a dozen blocks at the half. I forgot to count in the second half (spent more more time admiring the pretty brunette seated nearby) but he definitely had several more. That was I believe when Wilt was with the Warriors, though I don't remember Thurmond playing with him in that game but I believe they were teammates that year.
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Post#113 » by prolific passer » Sat Sep 5, 2020 10:20 pm

How many blocks per game did Mr. Pettit average during his career?
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Post#114 » by countryboy667 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 2:55 pm

bballexpert wrote:1960's were pretty weak time in the sport and the pace is super inflated i mean there is hardly any footage on that time and most of the players worked other jobs. I know they are the pioneers of the sport but looking at the players it is just so weak and the talent pool is not even close to what it is today and for most players there like no games to watch makes it even harder to judge. I mean its cool they got a lot of blocks but take pace and era into account and it seems less impressive overall to me.


...says someone who thinks today's three-point chuckfests with little or no enforcement of the rules on steps and palming, etc. etc. are great basketball...and from someone whose only experience with that era more than likely comes only from grainy old super 8mm or 16mm film clips...great athletes (and many who played in the 60s were just as good athletically speaking) playing in this era does NOT necessarily equate to good basketball. IMO, it DOESN'T.
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Post#115 » by mstat13shuh » Mon Sep 7, 2020 5:15 am

countryboy667: based upon your recollections you shared with me about the Warriors Royals game, I'm pretty certain the game in question would've been on Feb. 19, 1964.
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Post#116 » by mstat13shuh » Mon Sep 7, 2020 5:22 am

prolific passer: this is obviously a rough estimate, but I would estimate he totaled: between 2,500-3,000 reg. season blk, averaging between 3-3.5bpg, which would've been somewhat higher than the official all-time Hawk King, Tree Rollins. That being said, most of the scoring in Pettit's day was done in the paint, since most of the scoring was done by post players.
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Post#117 » by mstat13shuh » Mon Sep 7, 2020 5:34 am

HeartBreakKid wrote:
mstat13shuh wrote:This just in:

According to both Russell & Wilt backup Mel Counts: Wilt blocked 16 shots in game 5 of 1970 playoffs vs Suns:

https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/449206-365304-hoops-star-re-counts-his-illustrious-career

Now, for this game, I haven't yet dug through all the L.A. papers to see if any of them reported Wilt's blocks for this game, nonetheless, I'm pretty certain Counts is being honest here. Hopefully he knows more, either way, I feel it's worth a shot.

Thats a lot of blocks[For that season, especially with Russ retiring, Wilt missing most of the regular season with his torn patella tendon, and Nate missing roughly half the season with another knee injury of his own, for that season, you're correct in this case, it was a lot of blocks. And for Wilt's sake, I feel pretty safe in affirming this would actually be Wilt's high for the year, regular season or playoff.

The highest I've found for this season, so far, would be the Raymond playoff game I posted recently, although there was a Warriors Bucks Feb. 18, 1970 contest where the Oakland Tribune was quoted as saying Kareem "blocked so many shots he threw the Warriors offense into a dither." I've checked every known paper from either city attempting to find something further, nothing, although it wouldn't shock me if I or someone else discovers later on he blocked at least 17 or 18. Maybe someone here or a close affiliate knows something I don't./quote]
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Post#118 » by countryboy667 » Mon Sep 7, 2020 9:37 pm

mstat13shuh wrote:countryboy667: based upon your recollections you shared with me about the Warriors Royals game, I'm pretty certain the game in question would've been on Feb. 19, 1964.


You may be right--I was out of HS and in college at the time.

That was a magical time for me basketball wise. I was attending Ohio University, and the Bobcats had an amazing year. With no starter taller than 6'5' (Center Paul Storey) and forwards Don Hilt and Mike Haley, guards Jerry Jackson and Charlie Gill and key reserve Tommy Davis, OU for the first time ever made some noise in the NCAA tournament, defeating Louisville, 4th-ranked Kentucky (under Adolph Rupp) and going to the elite eight where they pushed Michigan with Cazzie Russell and Bill Buntin before going down. The campus was wild after the team returned home.

https://www.ohiobobcats.com/sports/mbkb/spec-rel/021314aaj.html

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Post#119 » by mstat13shuh » Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:46 am

Thanks for the response countryboy667, I really appreciate it.

Any additional Wilt shot-blocking memories you vividly recall?
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Post#120 » by countryboy667 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:03 pm

mstat13shuh wrote:Thanks for the response countryboy667, I really appreciate it.

Any additional Wilt shot-blocking memories you vividly recall?


I was a Royals fan then...only saw Wilt 2-3 times live. Never did get to see Russell live. Saw a lot of Oscar then--there was nothing flashy about Oscar's game. He was just so damned good at the fundamentals that he was almost like a well-oiled flawlessly smooth-running machine. Saw Lucas after he joined the Royals and in college. He'd have been right at home in today's small ball three-point game. GREAT, not just good, range on his shot. People will say I'm just an old fart hallucinating, but in today's game as a three-point shooter I think he'd be as good as any, including Curry, plus being a rebounding machine. He'd hit a ridiculous percentage of those corner threes. Too bad the Royals never had a top-tier five. If they had one with Oscar and Lucas they'd have given anyone, Celtics included, a serious run.
Shot blocking, unfortunately, was not a Royals forte. I may have seen Walt Bellamy once, but hard to remember. Really good but no Wilt or Russell. Don't remember ever having seen Pettit live.

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