The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

[nzahir]

Bogdan is kind of a suped up Knecht. They could use more shooting but he’s kind of redundant. Brown is a peculiar fit, he can be good but not sure this is the right setting to optimize him. Plus he’s not a big enough upgrade over DLO.

I’m probably the last person still on the Jerami Grant train. He just had a 4 block game in which he also scored 28 points. The other night, he went 8/17 from three. His advanced numbers haven’t been great in Portland but he’s been a relatively efficient volume scorer in a miserable environment and still possesses the athletic tools to be a wing stopper. You could match his salary with DLO/JHS/Christie when Christie is trade eligible which keeps Vincent and Vando’s salaries for other trades if necessary. Knecht also gets bumped up in the rotation.

Reaves/Vincent
Grant/Knecht
Rui/Vando
Bron/Wood
AD/Hayes

The Lakers get more size, athleticism, defense, and scoring. Bron/Grant/Rui/Vando is more than sufficient wing depth. Guards are a little light but that can be solved with a Dinwiddie like acquisition in the buyout market.

Grant, Rui, and Bron aren't quick enough I think to all play together

Grant is more of a 4 now
Rui is not able to move laterally very well on the perimeter
Lebron is old and can't give max effort all the time, slower feet now

Would need to bring Rui or Grant off the bench, but dont know if they can all play together and that may be an issue if Rui is legit

Yeah I agree. I think the Grant/Rui/Bron trio works very well against DEN/OKC/MIN but isn’t equipped to guard a team like the Suns, for example. They need to break up the DLO/Reaves backcourt and bring in a player that can take the most difficult matchups. Right now, Reaves is the primary defender on the opposing team’s star perimeter player. That shouldn’t be the case.

Thoughts on Immanuel Quickley?

Seems like a good defender for a guard as well and can score and shoot

Rates out well and watched some short breakdowns of him

32.5m though and is Toronto looking to do a full rebuild? Also is this worth 1-2 1sts and JHS? And is that even enough

Dlo, Vincent, and JHS in a 3 teamer is enough salary

Then sign a minimm guy.

[JLei]

AD is going to win the MVP.

[Fadeaway_J]

Worst offensive execution of the season thus far. LeBron in particular.

[JLei]

His 10 point streak is done. They need to keep spamming this Reaves AD pick and roll or they will lose.

[1993Playoffs]

Dude was terrible. All game

[nzahir]

His 10 point streak is done. They need to keep spamming this Reaves AD pick and roll or they will lose.

Barely kept it alive lol

Bad game from Bron it looked like (only watched the 4th), but he was just great the other night in Sac

He is getting older clearly, but idk if I rather have 5 guys in the playoffs than him

And if AD is playing like a legit top 5-top 10 guy all season, then we should be fine

Rui looks very good

Reaves looks very good

I really think with 1-2 additions, we can be a legit contender

Can move Dlo, Gabe, JHS, Christie

Only moving Vando if we can get a very good defender in a deal

[IG2]

That stat line does no justice to how awful LeBron was in this game . This is a double digit Laker victory had he not played.

Oh well he's 40 and can't really jump so far this season so this is what you're going to get. Hopefully he can get his legs under him at some point this season.

Laker bench is a trainwreck and I don't know what I did to deserve watching DLo for the 3rd straight season.

[tone wone]

The bench is bad but the offensive issues are really just Lebron and D'lo playing poorly. Lebron's not creating many advantages and D'lo can't buy a 3.

[Mos_Heat]

4th game in 6 days. Not surprised he looked terrible

[nzahir]

4th game in 6 days. Not surprised he looked terrible

Also apparently been a little sick since Sat

AD is our #1 this year

I like that

Lebron is still an elite cutter, elite roll man, and elite in transition

Let him get easy buckets there and then mix in some post ups and some iso's when he has the energy, but go more through AD and AR

Then do some additional playmaking and passing

We don't look great without AD

I want to see how we look with Wood, but I feel like he is better next to a C, and not as the stand alone big

Orlando hasnt played Goga much in the first 2 games, 5 and 6 min....could he be available later this year?

[dcstanley]

Grant, Rui, and Bron aren't quick enough I think to all play together

Grant is more of a 4 now
Rui is not able to move laterally very well on the perimeter
Lebron is old and can't give max effort all the time, slower feet now

Would need to bring Rui or Grant off the bench, but dont know if they can all play together and that may be an issue if Rui is legit

Yeah I agree. I think the Grant/Rui/Bron trio works very well against DEN/OKC/MIN but isn’t equipped to guard a team like the Suns, for example. They need to break up the DLO/Reaves backcourt and bring in a player that can take the most difficult matchups. Right now, Reaves is the primary defender on the opposing team’s star perimeter player. That shouldn’t be the case.

Thoughts on Immanuel Quickley?

Seems like a good defender for a guard as well and can score and shoot

Rates out well and watched some short breakdowns of him

32.5m though and is Toronto looking to do a full rebuild? Also is this worth 1-2 1sts and JHS? And is that even enough

Dlo, Vincent, and JHS in a 3 teamer is enough salary

Then sign a minimm guy.

I like him in an archetypal sense, he takes a lot of pull up threes and he’s pretty athletic. He’s a bit slight physically but holds his own defensively. I think of players in that mold I prefer Coby White. I don’t think either are available, though.

Sucks that Lavine is making so much money. He’s been scorching to start the season, 46% on 9 3PA per game. When he’s healthy he’s honestly Booker lite. Would be such a perfect fit here offensively and with the way AD, Reaves, and Rui are playing, I think the Lakers would be in contention for best offense in the league. Just too difficult to put together a coherent team with his salary.

[nzahir]

Yeah I agree. I think the Grant/Rui/Bron trio works very well against DEN/OKC/MIN but isn’t equipped to guard a team like the Suns, for example. They need to break up the DLO/Reaves backcourt and bring in a player that can take the most difficult matchups. Right now, Reaves is the primary defender on the opposing team’s star perimeter player. That shouldn’t be the case.

Thoughts on Immanuel Quickley?

Seems like a good defender for a guard as well and can score and shoot

Rates out well and watched some short breakdowns of him

32.5m though and is Toronto looking to do a full rebuild? Also is this worth 1-2 1sts and JHS? And is that even enough

Dlo, Vincent, and JHS in a 3 teamer is enough salary

Then sign a minimm guy.

I like him in an archetypal sense, he takes a lot of pull up threes and he’s pretty athletic. He’s a bit slight physically but holds his own defensively. I think of players in that mold I prefer Coby White. I don’t think either are available, though.

Sucks that Lavine is making so much money. He’s been scorching to start the season, 46% on 9 3PA per game. When he’s healthy he’s honestly Booker lite. Would be such a perfect fit here offensively and with the way AD, Reaves, and Rui are playing, I think the Lakers would be in contention for best offense in the league. Just too difficult to put together a coherent team with his salary.

Dlo, Vincent, JHS, Vando, and Christie are like 52m

Need to get creative, but Lavine+5ishm guy who can play+2 vet mins

Very hard to make it work though, but doable

Unless we can make the trade and then sign a couople min guys to go into the 2nd apron just for this year?

[trickshot]

Who's going to address this thing that it's been Lebron keeping AD from being focal point? These people don't watch AD, like at all. AD became part-time basketballer the first 2 seasons after the ring. Also had to overcome some struggles against swarming defensive schemes. He finally rediscovered his roots as a facilitator shredding double teams with his crazy improved passing but he still has troubles against ball denial, specifically getting fronted in the post by more physical players. When he's fronted forcing the ball to him has tended to be a guaranteed TO. Like how many times do we see this, gets hot, teams start denying the ball in the post, gets neutralised. People go "Conspiracy. Damn Lakers didn't get him the ball on purpose". Talking Bron these days is no longer about actual ball.

[dcstanley]

Thoughts on Immanuel Quickley?

Seems like a good defender for a guard as well and can score and shoot

Rates out well and watched some short breakdowns of him

32.5m though and is Toronto looking to do a full rebuild? Also is this worth 1-2 1sts and JHS? And is that even enough

Dlo, Vincent, and JHS in a 3 teamer is enough salary

Then sign a minimm guy.

I like him in an archetypal sense, he takes a lot of pull up threes and he’s pretty athletic. He’s a bit slight physically but holds his own defensively. I think of players in that mold I prefer Coby White. I don’t think either are available, though.

Sucks that Lavine is making so much money. He’s been scorching to start the season, 46% on 9 3PA per game. When he’s healthy he’s honestly Booker lite. Would be such a perfect fit here offensively and with the way AD, Reaves, and Rui are playing, I think the Lakers would be in contention for best offense in the league. Just too difficult to put together a coherent team with his salary.

Dlo, Vincent, JHS, Vando, and Christie are like 52m

Need to get creative, but Lavine+5ishm guy who can play+2 vet mins

Very hard to make it work though, but doable

Unless we can make the trade and then sign a couople min guys to go into the 2nd apron just for this year?

you can actually get lavine with dlo/reddish/jhs/max/gabe

AR/vet min
Lavine/Knecht
Rui/Vando
Bron/Wood
AD/Koloko/Hayes

[nzahir]

I like him in an archetypal sense, he takes a lot of pull up threes and he’s pretty athletic. He’s a bit slight physically but holds his own defensively. I think of players in that mold I prefer Coby White. I don’t think either are available, though.

Sucks that Lavine is making so much money. He’s been scorching to start the season, 46% on 9 3PA per game. When he’s healthy he’s honestly Booker lite. Would be such a perfect fit here offensively and with the way AD, Reaves, and Rui are playing, I think the Lakers would be in contention for best offense in the league. Just too difficult to put together a coherent team with his salary.

Dlo, Vincent, JHS, Vando, and Christie are like 52m

Need to get creative, but Lavine+5ishm guy who can play+2 vet mins

Very hard to make it work though, but doable

Unless we can make the trade and then sign a couople min guys to go into the 2nd apron just for this year?

you can actually get lavine with dlo/reddish/jhs/max/gabe

AR/vet min
Lavine/Knecht
Rui/Vando
Bron/Wood
AD/Koloko/Hayes

Are we then allowed to sign min guys and go into the 2nd appron?

Also Dlo, Gabe, Max, JHS, and Reddish are still a bit short lol. Need to throw in Lewis

Need another team at least, if not 2 teams

It is hard to do, but doable if we want to enter 2nd appron

FA to sign:
PG: Fultz/Dennis smith jt
SG: Justin Holiday
Forwards: RoCo/Danuel House

[zimpy27]

Dlo, Vincent, JHS, Vando, and Christie are like 52m

Need to get creative, but Lavine+5ishm guy who can play+2 vet mins

Very hard to make it work though, but doable

Unless we can make the trade and then sign a couople min guys to go into the 2nd apron just for this year?

you can actually get lavine with dlo/reddish/jhs/max/gabe

AR/vet min
Lavine/Knecht
Rui/Vando
Bron/Wood
AD/Koloko/Hayes

Are we then allowed to sign min guys and go into the 2nd appron?

Also Dlo, Gabe, Max, JHS, and Reddish are still a bit short lol. Need to throw in Lewis

Need another team at least, if not 2 teams

It is hard to do, but doable if we want to enter 2nd appron

FA to sign:
PG: Fultz/Dennis smith jt
SG: Justin Holiday
Forwards: RoCo/Danuel House

Lakers have to send out more salary than they take in anyway.

[nzahir]

you can actually get lavine with dlo/reddish/jhs/max/gabe

AR/vet min
Lavine/Knecht
Rui/Vando
Bron/Wood
AD/Koloko/Hayes

Are we then allowed to sign min guys and go into the 2nd appron?

Also Dlo, Gabe, Max, JHS, and Reddish are still a bit short lol. Need to throw in Lewis

Need another team at least, if not 2 teams

It is hard to do, but doable if we want to enter 2nd appron

FA to sign:
PG: Fultz/Dennis smith jt
SG: Justin Holiday
Forwards: RoCo/Danuel House

Lakers have to send out more salary than they take in anyway.

Can also swap Christie and Cam with Vando

But it doesnt seem like Christie is ready and we dont have a lot of time, but lets give it a month or so anyways

A core of Bron, AD, Lavine, Reaves, Rui, Vando, Knecht, Wood, and Koloko/Hayes/better backup C is pretty nice

But the later depth is pretty scary if anyone gets hurt

But we may need a more reliable #3 than Reaves, unless we can have a top 3 defense

That would thrn require getting a very good defensive guard like Lonzo and a solid backup C like Kessler

I got some hope we will figure this out

[zimpy27]

Are we then allowed to sign min guys and go into the 2nd appron?

Also Dlo, Gabe, Max, JHS, and Reddish are still a bit short lol. Need to throw in Lewis

Need another team at least, if not 2 teams

It is hard to do, but doable if we want to enter 2nd appron

FA to sign:
PG: Fultz/Dennis smith jt
SG: Justin Holiday
Forwards: RoCo/Danuel House

Lakers have to send out more salary than they take in anyway.

Can also swap Christie and Cam with Vando

But it doesnt seem like Christie is ready and we dont have a lot of time, but lets give it a month or so anyways

A core of Bron, AD, Lavine, Reaves, Rui, Vando, Knecht, Wood, and Koloko/Hayes/better backup C is pretty nice

But the later depth is pretty scary if anyone gets hurt

But we may need a more reliable #3 than Reaves, unless we can have a top 3 defense

That would thrn require getting a very good defensive guard like Lonzo and a solid backup C like Kessler

I got some hope we will figure this out

Lakers don't need more offense, they need more defense. This team will be a top 5 offense with DLo, Gabe, Christie chucking up poor efficiency.

LaVine is not the target, Bruce Brown is a better target to improve the team.

Start looking for guard defense

[SlimShady83]

Lakers are just waiting for Vando to come back and I guess maybe Wood too?

Edit: I want Trae Young not Lavine, defense or no defense, I want Young Post Bron, Ad/Young would be dope.

[zimpy27]

Lakers are just waiting for Vando to come back and I guess maybe Wood too?

Edit: I want Trae Young not Lavine, defense or no defense, I want Young Post Bron, Ad/Young would be dope.

I tend to agree that Vando solves issues and replaces Christie.

DLo, Reaves, LeBron, Rui, Davis
Gabe, Knecht, Vando

Problem is that he's not reliable health wise.
And a guard defender would be more appropriate.