The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 2)

[E-Balla]

Win or lose, there are some serious flaws in his game that certainly were exposed. Maybe you don't wanna use that word, but he has clear flaws that we kept brushing over in the RS because the Warriors were doing what they did in the RS. His defense was certainly 'exposed', the burden to make plays and make decisions with the ball fell on him after LeBron took Draymond out of the picture and he made bad decisions, decisions which he had been making all year, but on a smaller, less important scale. His decision making needs improvement, and no one was really talking about this before the finals. So the finals did 'expose' that. It was a 7 game series, but we did learn a lot about Curry, regardless of what his TS% was.

Forgot someone Hibachi? Been saying it for 4 years now and got back snark, insults, and people questioning my analytic skills. I still don't know what anyone was seeing when they said he was a good passer/smart player. His decision making and passing skills have always been average for a starting PG at best.

[Peregrine01]

To me, more than anything, Curry looked passive in these playoffs - especially following his injury. He looked nonchalant making passes, nonchalant in trying to get open and nonchalant trying to take advantage of bigs who switched on him. I'm not sure why that happened but he played with no where near the energy and activity that he showed regularly during the regular season, outside of a few explosions in the playoffs.

[NO-KG-AI]

I guess I could be wrong, but he didn't look injured at all to me, and the fact that he still had a big game here or there really hammered it home. He looked frustrated and confused a lot, and lacking his confidence, but the whole team got that way after the playoffs didn't run as smoothly as the regular season.


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[cyclix]

To me, more than anything, Curry looked passive in these playoffs - especially following his injury. He looked nonchalant making passes, nonchalant in trying to get open and nonchalant trying to take advantage of bigs who switched on him. I'm not sure why that happened but he played with no where near the energy and activity that he showed regularly during the regular season, outside of a few explosions in the playoffs.

Currys stamina is not good at all. That's a given.

[mischievous]

Win or lose, there are some serious flaws in his game that certainly were exposed. Maybe you don't wanna use that word, but he has clear flaws that we kept brushing over in the RS because the Warriors were doing what they did in the RS. His defense was certainly 'exposed', the burden to make plays and make decisions with the ball fell on him after LeBron took Draymond out of the picture and he made bad decisions, decisions which he had been making all year, but on a smaller, less important scale. His decision making needs improvement, and no one was really talking about this before the finals. So the finals did 'expose' that. It was a 7 game series, but we did learn a lot about Curry, regardless of what his TS% was.

Forgot someone Hibachi? Been saying it for 4 years now and got back snark, insults, and people questioning my analytic skills. I still don't know what anyone was seeing when they said he was a good passer/smart player. His decision making and passing skills have always been average for a starting PG at best.

There were a few literally arguing him as Cp3 level when it comes to playmkaing/taking car of the ball and that's laughable.

[Mazter]

Currys stamina is not good at all. That's a given.

Barnes 31.7mpg @ 4.21mph
Curry 35.1mpg @ 4.20mph
T.Thompson 32.3mpg @ 4.19mph
K.Thompson 35.3mpg @ 4.18mph
Irving 39.0mpg @ 3.98mph
Iguadola 34.1mpg @ 3.88mph
James 41.7mpg @ 3.73mph
Green 40.0mpg @ 3.62mph

Combination of minutes played and average speed, I don't think there is anything wrong with Curry's stamina.

[Quotatious]

I'll say that while I still think steph is better, playoffs means lebron arguably should with the POY ballot.

It's funny - I see it the other way around - I think LeBron is probably still better, and was better last year, too, but Curry should win POY ballot again, because he performed better over a much longer period of time - in other words, Curry played clearly better in the regular season, where the pressure is much smaller, for 80 games, James performed better for 20 games in the playoffs, where the pressure is much bigger. Which probably means that LeBron is still more capable against great opponents but he just doesn't have the stamina to do it all year long, as he used to do in 2013 and earlier.

As far as I'm concerned, the guy who was better over a 4x bigger sample (80 RS games vs 20 playoff games), should get the nod in POY voting. However, if I had to pick any active NBA player to play one game or one series or one full playoff run to save my life, I would take LeBron, so take that for what it's worth.

[RSCD3_]

I'll say that while I still think steph is better, playoffs means lebron arguably should with the POY ballot.

It's funny - I see it the other way around - I think LeBron is probably still better, and was better last year, too, but Curry should win POY ballot again, because he performed better over a much longer period of time - in other words, Curry played clearly better in the regular season, where the pressure is much smaller, for 80 games, James performed better for 20 games in the playoffs, where the pressure is much bigger. Which probably means that LeBron is still more capable against great opponents but he just doesn't have the stamina to do it all year long, as he used to do in 2013 and earlier.

As far as I'm concerned, the guy who was better over a 4x bigger sample (80 RS games vs 20 playoff games), should get the nod in POY voting. However, if I had to pick any active NBA player to play one game or one series or one full playoff run to save my life, I would take LeBron, so take that for what it's worth.

Quotatious would you still rank LeBron #1 in 2009 if he collapsed against Orlando in a similiar way to what happened with Dallas in 2011, but because of his worse play( If 39/9/9 gets sox than would 17/8/7 get 5) lets say they get swept... I say that year because the competition was a lot higher than in 2013 much like how 2016 is a tough year. Where would you rank that lebron in 09

[Quotatious]

Quotatious would you still rank LeBron #1 in 2009 if he collapsed against Orlando in a similiar way to what happened with Dallas in 2011, but because of his worse play( If 39/9/9 gets sox than would 17/8/7 get 5) lets say they get swept... I say that year because the competition was a lot higher than in 2013 much like how 2016 is a tough year. Where would you rank that lebron in 09

I would probably have LeBron neck and neck with Wade and Kobe. Based on what actually happened, I have him comfortably ahead. If he still made ECF in the scenario that you're talking about, it wouldn't take away his complete and utter dominance in the first two rounds of the playoffs against Detroit and Atlanta (I know, weak opponents, especially since Horford was injured during the ATL/CLE series, but still, he destroyed both those teams and the Cavs swept both).

Even if LeBron struggled in the Orlando series, he would still be the best player in the league (by a clear margin) for 89 games (81 RS and 8 PS), so even with a major failure against the Magic, he would still have a case for #1, for sure. I think we really shouldn't let one playoff series decide how we perceive an entire season that a player had.

Let me give you an example - D-Rob and Shaq were phenomenal in 1993-94 regular season, right? CP3 was phenomenal in 2008-09 RS. All of them struggled in the first round of the playoffs and got eliminated. Still, I think D-Rob and Shaq were #2 and 3 best players in the league in '94, after Hakeem, and CP3 was easily a top 5 player in '09 (along with LeBron, Wade, Kobe and Dwight). We can't let one bad series erase everything they did in the 6 months before that. Hell, CP3 probably had the best-ever regular season for a point guard at that time, better than any of Magic Johnson's (because unlike Magic, he was an elite defender to go along with his offense and rebounding).

[The High Cyde]

Been wondering on what you guys think his statline will look like in RS and PS next season?

[RSCD3_]

Been wondering on what you guys think his statline will look like in RS and PS next season?

29/5/6 on 65 TS% in RS. Better playoff numbers than this year.

[JordansBulls]

I doubt KD goes unless he doesn't like competiton. I think maybe someone like Al Horford would go.

So that would move Draymond to the 3 or simply play Horford at C and Draymond at the PF.

Steph
Klay
Draymond
Al Horford
Bogut

[JordansBulls]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13465197/2015-summer-forecast-nba-champs

So Cleveland, G.S, SA, LAC, OKC were the top teams from the beginning of last season to win it all.