Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley

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Who will be the better player?

Anthony Randolph
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Michael Beasley
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1021 » by Chosen01 » Wed May 26, 2010 11:22 pm

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Lionel Messi wrote:I was a huge fan of Randolph the moment I saw him in summer league. He should definitely surpass Beasley if he stays relatively healthy. He seems to have a chip on his shoulder and wants to be a real star.

No one can deny that he has the natural talent.


The main thing is Randolph has more will to be a defensive player, to pay his dues to become more skilled and upgrade his natural tools. Beas has had better shoot/score skills but has yet to expand it.

Last year AR MIGHT have been around 220,I'm rather surprised he's up to 235,but then over the summer as he's able to run,he may level off at about 230,which if his program is right,gets him more leverage without killing his quicks+ Hops. The advantage in length and explosiveness is all Randolph's. He has a J but it's not yet a big plus. He has handles but is still learning how to efficiently use that. He has played at 205--220,and yet rebounded well, usually defended well. More strength + Experience helps both of those. AR has a VERY broad spectrum of skills and few are polished close to what they should become. That's why GSW fans get so excited. The kid...when you hunt down his per minute numbers...ALREADY plays at the level of the avg NBA starting PF,but with inexcusably short minutes and a lot of raw rookie bits in his game that improve whenever he's free to PLAY and adapt.

It will be interesting to see if Beasley chooses to bring max effort onto the floor and also into his development. For now, that's what makes it easy to pick Randolph as the better future.


Not at all, I'd still take Beasley, AR is a **** twig, he weighs less than Joe Johnson, and a little more than Wade :lol:
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1022 » by Relentless88 » Wed May 26, 2010 11:27 pm

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-Illmatic- wrote:68 pages of arguing and they both suck. lol.


Seriously. Homer fanbases kill the PC board. Neither of these guys really deserve mention at all.


Quick google search shows you have posted in this thread at least 17 times.

:lol: :lol:
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1023 » by FNQ » Thu May 27, 2010 3:19 am

BlackManSmart wrote:This is why this guy has so much potential. He can grow at will! Yao is going to be looking up to Randolph real soon, figuratively and literally :lol:


AR = Apache Chief

We're being told by an agent that he's 6'11 235, so no breath-holding...
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Post#1024 » by FAB0L0US » Thu May 27, 2010 8:23 pm

old rem wrote:The main thing is Randolph has more will to be a defensive player, to pay his dues to become more skilled and upgrade his natural tools. Beas has had better shoot/score skills but has yet to expand it.


Look at the link.

http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defensiveEff/order/false

OK, looked at the link and noticed where Miami is and where GS is? GS sucks at defense, Miami doesnt. Beasley plays significant minutes for a good defensive team and if he sucked at defense the Heat wouldnt be that high in defensive efficiency.

I ask everyone who doesnt watch Heat games... dont tell us Beas is bad at D. He is no superstar but he certainly isnt some scrub letting anyone destroy him on defense whenever they want. Other teams dont pick on him like he is a weak link. He has shortcomings and Heat fans know what those are... but other teams fans shouldnt pretend to be an expert about a player on a team they dont watch. I dont go off spouting about Anthony Randolph so show some restraint and humility by realizing your own limitations. For real guys, its not like you watch our games so just shut it with the Beasley pronouncements. You dont watch our games, you dont know our players, dont pretend to be an expert on them.

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WadeKnicks2010 wrote:
-Illmatic- wrote:68 pages of arguing and they both suck. lol.


Seriously. Homer fanbases kill the PC board. Neither of these guys really deserve mention at all.


Quick google search shows you have posted in this thread at least 17 times.


HAHAHA thats great. Friggin owned.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1025 » by loserX » Thu May 27, 2010 8:32 pm

FireNellieQuick wrote:
BlackManSmart wrote:This is why this guy has so much potential. He can grow at will! Yao is going to be looking up to Randolph real soon, figuratively and literally :lol:


AR = Apache Chief


:rofl: That's probably the first pop culture reference I've actually gotten in all my years on this board.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1026 » by FNQ » Fri Jun 4, 2010 1:52 am

So hey Nets fans... would you trade Keyon Dooling for AR? :dontknow:

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Post#1027 » by Legendary 33 » Fri Jun 4, 2010 2:11 am

I'll take randolph. he's not undersized and the kid possesses athleticism thats out of this world

I would have taken beasley earlier but the kid has shown he's nothing more than an overhyped drug lord. He's a mental and physical midget that gives no indication that he's capable of playing competitive basketball on a daily basis.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1028 » by FNQ » Fri Jun 4, 2010 3:02 am

Its possible Beasley takes the career turn of Charles Rogers of the NFL...

If Beasley cleans up, who knows how good he could be? The hard part is cleaning up when you have a ton of money and a lot of cred... but that cred is evaporating, fast. Kid desperately needs some good role models in his life to keep him clean and NBA productive.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1029 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Fri Jun 4, 2010 3:59 am

Legendary 33 wrote:I would have taken beasley earlier but the kid has shown he's nothing more than an overhyped drug lord.

Your basketball analysis sucks.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1030 » by Senor Chang » Fri Jun 4, 2010 10:25 am

Beasley might have done better out the gate had he been drafted by a team that was rebuilding. Playing with a superstar like wade and being depended on to be his robin could either accelerate your development or stunt it. Looks like the latter happened. Beasley seems like the type of bigman who needs the ball in his hands to be effective and that would become a problem when you've got wade who also needs the ball in his hands. I dunno.. im trying to figure out why his game hasnt translated to the pros just yet and im drawing a blank.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1031 » by TAI8 » Fri Jun 4, 2010 11:22 am

Real GM is funny...People always try to tear down the players with the most expectations but for some reason don't fulfill them right off the bat. It's never a case of oh that player is not in the best situation conducive to growth, but oh he sucks and is a bust...That's why people here are always wrong...because they never post with their head but with their feelings.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1032 » by BBallFreak » Fri Jun 4, 2010 11:28 am

FireNellieQuick wrote:Its possible Beasley takes the career turn of Charles Rogers of the NFL...

If Beasley cleans up, who knows how good he could be? The hard part is cleaning up when you have a ton of money and a lot of cred... but that cred is evaporating, fast. Kid desperately needs some good role models in his life to keep him clean and NBA productive.

Maybe stop talking until you know what you're talking about, OK? I want Beasley dealt because I think he needs a fresh start in a better situation, but don't talk garbage about the kid. He IS clean. This isn't Lawrence Taylor sniffing lines of coke off his pads. This is a kid who is taking the steps to get his life straight. He's in AA, he's a devoted father, and he has an extremely good work ethic from all accounts. He's not some ridiculous gun toting thug like you seem to think he is.

Seriously stupid trash talk going on.

That's not where his problems lie. He's not a criminal or a locker room cancer. He's a kid who's made some mistakes.

This is garbage. LOL

BTW, the Nets thing? Riley asked for their pick. The Nets are also a team trying to get as much cap space as possible too. Let's not be stupid, OK?
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1033 » by Joel Embust » Fri Jun 4, 2010 11:31 am

I have full confidence that Beasley will find his way in the NBA. He's putting up 15/6 in 30 minutes on a playoff team that doesn't go out and run while being younger than a ton of top 10 picks from last year and even this year. His defense is improving and with more than 15 years of play ahead of him he will be one of the better players in the league.

Danillo Gallinari is putting up lesser numbers on worse percentages on a TERRIBLE team that doesn't have a ball dominant player like Wade and plays twice as fast and jacks up a ton more shots per game than Miami in more minutes per game.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1034 » by Relentless88 » Fri Jun 4, 2010 12:50 pm

lol Miami fans are so in denial.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1035 » by FNQ » Fri Jun 4, 2010 3:09 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Maybe stop talking until you know what you're talking about, OK?


Wait for it...

He's not some ridiculous gun toting thug like you seem to think he is.


So actually, Charles Rogers was the #2 pick overall in the NFL who disappointed in the league because of his addiction to weed and drinking, despite the fact that he was a great talent. The rest you just made up in your head... So you can stop telling everyone how stupid they are until you get your facts straight too :thumbsup:
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1036 » by I Never Lied » Fri Jun 4, 2010 4:08 pm

FireNellieQuick wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Maybe stop talking until you know what you're talking about, OK?


Wait for it...

He's not some ridiculous gun toting thug like you seem to think he is.


So actually, Charles Rogers was the #2 pick overall in the NFL who disappointed in the league because of his addiction to weed and drinking, despite the fact that he was a great talent. The rest you just made up in your head... So you can stop telling everyone how stupid they are until you get your facts straight too :thumbsup:


Why are you lying?

Beasley doesnt suck because he's "addicted to weed and drinking" :lol:

You know almost nothing about basketball...they drug test during the NBA season "October-April". Lamar Odom has failed more drug test than Beasley.

Charles Rogers was injured for two of his first three seasons and failed three drug test before being suspended.

Beasley still sucks but, why are you lying?
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1037 » by BBallFreak » Fri Jun 4, 2010 5:32 pm

FireNellieQuick wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Maybe stop talking until you know what you're talking about, OK?


Wait for it...

He's not some ridiculous gun toting thug like you seem to think he is.


So actually, Charles Rogers was the #2 pick overall in the NFL who disappointed in the league because of his addiction to weed and drinking, despite the fact that he was a great talent. The rest you just made up in your head... So you can stop telling everyone how stupid they are until you get your facts straight too :thumbsup:


But that's exactly the point. Beasley's stint in rehab was brought about by the fact that he lied. Not whether or not he smoked pot. The truth is, he was in the room with Darrell Arthur and Mario Chalmers before their rookie year. He left before they got busted for smoking pot.

The truth later came out and the league told him that, as punishment, he has to attend rehab. THAT is the truth.

Since then, he's gotten himself into AA, he doesn't go out anymore, and he's devoted himself to his family.

That doesn't sound like someone who needs to GET cleaned up, that sounds like someone who IS cleaned up...
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1038 » by FNQ » Fri Jun 4, 2010 7:30 pm

I Never Lied wrote:Why are you lying?

Beasley doesnt suck because he's "addicted to weed and drinking" :lol:

You know almost nothing about basketball...they drug test during the NBA season "October-April". Lamar Odom has failed more drug test than Beasley.

Charles Rogers was injured for two of his first three seasons and failed three drug test before being suspended.

Beasley still sucks but, why are you lying?


I said Charles Rogers was addicted to weed and drinking... he proved it over the course of his career. His lack of conditioning / penchant for smoking is what caused him to be injured and ineffective for his entire NFL career.

How does me not mentioning Odom's prior problems mean I know nothing about basketball? You look defensive and childish when you respond like that

Beasley has problems with marijuana, to anyone not looking through rosy-glasses, and has been a large disappointment for MIA, so much so that they are trying to shed him for capspace.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1039 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Fri Jun 4, 2010 8:03 pm

Relentless88 wrote:lol Miami fans are so in denial.

I've said countless times Beasley sucks.

He's not a drug lord though, that's just dumb. Yes, the reason he sucked against Boston in the playoffs this year was because he was sneaking joints in at halftime, not because he played like crap.
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Re: Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley 

Post#1040 » by kasino » Fri Jun 4, 2010 11:49 pm

I would rather Beasley. Highly underrated IMO. But he doesn't have a winners attitude so that might come into play.

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