PC Board All-Time Fantasy League Project - Discussion Thread

[ardee]

What did you guys think of the draft order? Did the ABBBABABA even things out? I thought it ended up being fair.

Having the last pick for three rounds felt a bit unfair. I wish it was just a regular snake ABABABABAB draft style.

I feel you, though I think you built the perfect team around Jordan.

In another world, who would you have preferred?

[whitehops]

Dirk's Playoff record against Marion is 27-12-4 on 46-44-85 shooting Against Ibaka it's 32-6-3 on 56-36-97.

how on earth do they have ties?

[ardee]

Dirk's Playoff record against Marion is 27-12-4 on 46-44-85 shooting Against Ibaka it's 32-6-3 on 56-36-97.

how on earth do they have ties?

What do you mean?

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[whitehops]

also I wonder how the judges will feel about teams that are centered around and dependent on high-volume shooting guards. the two teams I have in mind particularly are narigo's and quotatious'.

historically having a shooting guard as your primary source of offense does not equal success. i know MJ and kobe are two glaring exceptions but they were both utilized in a system that helped them thrive. in a traditional sense, shooting guards don't take efficient shots and don't really create offense for the team. combine that with the lessened defensive impact of wing players (compared to bigs) and i recommend you don't build a team around a shooting guard. the only exception i would say is if you build a favourable supporting cast around them and put them in the right sytem.

PS i didn't include wade as one of the shooting guards because in his prime (and when i'm sure hibachi will have picked these years) he was more of a combo guard. wade is probably one of the best playmaking SG's ever. i know Jordan averaged 8 assists one year but there's more to making plays and creating offense than assists (see: francis, Marbury, Iverson, etc.) wade could get penetration better than the other two and the pressure he put on the interior of opposing offense's was what separated him from MJ and kobe, imo.

[whitehops]

Dirk's Playoff record against Marion is 27-12-4 on 46-44-85 shooting Against Ibaka it's 32-6-3 on 56-36-97.

how on earth do they have ties?

What do you mean?

woah sorry when you said 27-12-4 i thought you meant their win/loss record, just realized you meant their PPG/RPG/APG numbers.

boy am i daft :|

[Bruh Man]

C - Roy Hibbert (12-14)
PF - Kevin Garnett (03-05)
SF - Scottie Pippen (94-96)
SG - Reggie Miller (93-95)
PG - Jason Kidd (01-03)

Bench

C - Nene Hilario (09-11)
PF - Blake Griffin (12-14)
SF - Tayshaun Prince (07-09)
SG - Mitch Richmond (95-97)
PG - Tim Hardaway (91-93)

[Sagittaron]

Ok I will post just my players years now, once the layout for the playoffs and the matchups are set and done I will post game plans etc since this is the first week of the new university semester and I am kind of busy

Starting lineup:

PG: Magic Johnson (85-86-87)
SG: Dale Ellis (86-87-88)
SF: James Worthy (87-88-89)
PF: Shawn Kemp (95-96-97)
C: Dikembe Mutombo (94-95-96)

Bench:

Baron Davis (07-08-09)
John Starks (95-96-97)
Danny Granger (09-10-11)
Clifford Robinson (95-96-97)
Jermaine O'Neal (02-03-04)

[john248]

also I wonder how the judges will feel about teams that are centered around and dependent on high-volume shooting guards. the two teams I have in mind particularly are narigo's and quotatious'.

historically having a shooting guard as your primary source of offense does not equal success. i know MJ and kobe are two glaring exceptions but they were both utilized in a system that helped them thrive. in a traditional sense, shooting guards don't take efficient shots and don't really create offense for the team. combine that with the lessened defensive impact of wing players (compared to bigs) and i recommend you don't build a team around a shooting guard. the only exception i would say is if you build a favourable supporting cast around them and put them in the right sytem.

PS i didn't include wade as one of the shooting guards because in his prime (and when i'm sure hibachi will have picked these years) he was more of a combo guard. wade is probably one of the best playmaking SG's ever. i know Jordan averaged 8 assists one year but there's more to making plays and creating offense than assists (see: francis, Marbury, Iverson, etc.) wade could get penetration better than the other two and the pressure he put on the interior of opposing offense's was what separated him from MJ and kobe, imo.

Well, historically, Jordan and Kobe account for 11 rings in the past 34 years which is rather significant. You can add in Wade's 3 in too. Even if you drop Kobe to 2 and Wade to 1, we do know they were large contributors as the 2nd option or rather 1a/1b. It's not like these guys are 1 dimensional scorers.

I'd rather have a big too, especially one who can score a bit and pass the ball. It's much easier to convince someone how to win.

[john248]

What did you guys think of the draft order? Did the ABBBABABA even things out? I thought it ended up being fair.

Having the last pick for three rounds felt a bit unfair. I wish it was just a regular snake ABABABABAB draft style.

If anything, the snake should've came 1 round sooner as I mentioned in the middle of the draft. The 75% rule knocked out some quality players where in the future, perhaps a floor of 50 games with 75% over 3 seasons might have been better though who knows.

Having a snake right off the bat does no good for anyone drafting in the 2nd half of the draft order. Sure they get the early pick of the 2nd round, but at that point, the ATGs are all gone and we're left with a similar tier players for a couple rounds.

I actually might be changing the years for Larry Nance. I'll update in the AM as I put those years as the draft was going on.

[batmana]

Oh, yes, about the eligibility - since we started off with the 75% rule and some GMs had already passed on players because of that, I couldn't bring it up mid-draft. But as far as I'm concerned, it should have been 75% over the 3-year span, and at least 70% (or something more lax than 75%) in each of the 3 years. Meaning some players who played 55 or 60 or whatever games instead of 62 would be eligible as long as they have 75% over the 3-year span in question. (Initially, I thought that's what we had settled on but then somebody brought it up and I realized how some players were ineligible all of a sudden.)

BTW, the draft format obviously seemed fine for whoever got a late pick and a bit too harsh for whoever had an early pick (like myself). I guess once we see how the judges factor in having a top-3 superstar instead of a top-15 player as your franchise player, we will know exactly how fair the format was.

[john248]

Larry Nance 87-89

[O_6]

So when does "Phase 2" begin?

I'm ready to see who I face off against in the 1st round.

Really happy I get to use 2014 for KD. I would've been fine with 2011-13 KD as my 1st pick, but I would've been disappointed if I couldn't use the juggernaut that is 2014 KD.

I like the fact that my team isn't pigeonholed as a "Defense-first" team or an "Offense-first" team. I don't know if I have one of the best teams, but I do think I have one of the most well-rounded.

[MisterHibachi]

So when does "Phase 2" begin?

I'm ready to see who I face off against in the 1st round.

Phase 2, meaning playoffs, begin as soon as HeartBreakKid and Notanoob declare their years. I believe they are the only ones who haven't do so so far. After they do that, I'll randomize the match ups within each conference and create threads for each matchup plus the thread with the playoffs results. Then it's all started.

Really happy I get to use 2014 for KD. I would've been fine with 2011-13 KD as my 1st pick, but I would've been disappointed if I couldn't use the juggernaut that is 2014 KD.

I like the fact that my team isn't pigeonholed as a "Defense-first" team or an "Offense-first" team. I don't know if I have one of the best teams, but I do think I have one of the most well-rounded

Your first 3 picks were deadly. I thought you were the favourite after the first 3 rounds.

[O_6]

So you didn't like the rest of my draft then haha?

Is it ok for me to comment on a matchup between two other people even before I'm eliminated? Or is that considered illegal because I might be biased because I'm still in it?

[MisterHibachi]

So you didn't like the rest of my draft then haha?

Is it ok for me to comment on a matchup between two other people even before I'm eliminated? Or is that considered illegal because I might be biased because I'm still in it?

No its not that I don't like the rest of it haha, I just thought your first 3 were stronger than the last 7, but that's kinda obvious.

And yeah, its okay to comment on match ups between other people.

[O_6]

Cool, I think allowing us to comment on who we think has the better team will make all of these matchup threads better.

Hopefully people post their honest opinions and don't try to downplay how good a team is because they don't want to face them. But at the end of the day it's up to the judges.

[MisterHibachi]

Cool, I think allowing us to comment on who we think has the better team will make all of these matchup threads better.

Hopefully people post their honest opinions and don't try to downplay how good a team is because they don't want to face them. But at the end of the day it's up to the judges.

I think people can do that. Hopefully no agendas come into play tho.

And I have asked this before, but are GMs willing to transfer and become judges after being eliminated? It's not directed just at you O_6, but its a general question. If you're willing then just let us all know after you're eliminated, guys.

[whitehops]

I would be willing but unfortunately i'll be in it to the finals so I can't judge sorry.

[MisterHibachi]

I would be willing but unfortunately i'll be in it to the finals so I can't judge sorry.

That's not happening. I'm in the same conference as you.

[Quotatious]

Huh, trash-talking has started even before the game, so it should be hella competitive.

All of the major trash-talkers (MJ, Bird, Chuck, Glove, Kobe, Pierce, KG, Sheed, Reggie) are on different teams...It'd be nice if someone had, for example, Payton, Bird and Sheed on the same team. Oh, Bruh Man has Garnett and Miller on his team.

I think you guys (Thunder Dan and Hibachi) are underestimating my squad...Me vs Thunder Dan would be a lot of fun, our teams are really similar - Zo vs Dwight, Buck vs Grant, Mullin vs Bird, Kobe vs Manu, Billups vs Price, King vs English...I think you have an advantage at the SF, while I'm better as the SG, everything else is roughly equal...