Retro Player of the Year Project

[CellarDoor]

I'm with Tim and co. on this one. How am I going to argue Rose as #5 if he's done playing?









/duck

[sp6r=underrated]

Agreed. One of the benefits of a retro project is that everything is completed, and we have the hindsight benefit in making our evaluations. I think we'd lose that if we tried to evaluate in real time.

Agreed. I didn't want to be rude, but I think its a horrendous idea. I know I overreact to one playoff game, and most people do as well.

[Doctor MJ]

I think the idea of having an ongoing '09-10 thread is one with merit - but I also see negatives, and I don't see any reason why we can't keep our POY in mind while we watch and discuss the playoffs. I'm inclined to say nay - I'll reconsider if others chime in with yeas.

[Silver Bullet]

Agreed. One of the benefits of a retro project is that everything is completed, and we have the hindsight benefit in making our evaluations. I think we'd lose that if we tried to evaluate in real time.

Agreed. I didn't want to be rude, but I think its a horrendous idea. I know I overreact to one playoff game, and most people do as well.

Well, the way it would work would be - you'd have the a top 5 list:

Say
1. Lebron
2. Wade
3. Durrant
4. Howard
5. Rose.

Then as the playoffs progress, you'd sort of get a live database of reactions - and at the end of it all you could assess the impact the playoffs have had on your regular season rankings.

So I don't see how players who are not in the playoffs get affected. There's only 3 players who's rankings would get affected - Howard, Durrant and Lebron - and I don't think anything can push Lebron off the top spot. So by default, you probably have 2 spots for people whose teams are already eliminated.

[Doctor MJ]

Copied from the '08-09 thread:


A few things guys:

1 - As mentioned before, it's fine for you to change your mind on your voting, but please only vote in one post. Meaning, edit the post. With some people's votes, I had to 1) recognize it was a replacement vote, 2) go back and find the original vote, 3) remove that first vote from the scoring. Huge pain in the ass that should not be necessary.

2 - There were some votes from people not in the project. Everyone should check the list on the main project page to make sure they're in the project and talk to me if they're not. If you know you are not in the project, it's okay to make a vote, but please make very clear that you're not in the project when you do that to make it easier on me.

3 - This is MOST important: Tone down the negativity. I'm getting PMs from people saying that the attacking of others credibility is making this not fun for them, and that they may leave the project. This might seem trivial, but it's not. This is a long project. For all of us it's going to be a huge time suck. I sure as hell don't want to get to the '70s and be left with a half dozen people cursing at each other. Not everyone knows as much as you - deal with it. I will be keeping an eye out for odd behavior, but in the scale of things, having a sketchy voter is not nearly as bad as losing multiple good posters - which I guarantee you will happen if we don't turn that frown upside down.

Cheers,
Doc

[semi-sentient]

I'll try to keep the below "RealGM POY" page up during the project so that people can easily compare winners and whatnot, so as long as you post the same "code" format it'll be nice and readable.

http://www.dolem.com/poy/

[Silver Bullet]

I'll try to keep the below "RealGM POY" page up during the project so that people can easily compare winners and whatnot, so as long as you post the same "code" format it'll be nice and readable.

http://www.dolem.com/poy/

Ooooh.... niceee work man.

[Sedale Threatt]

I'll try to keep the below "RealGM POY" page up during the project so that people can easily compare winners and whatnot, so as long as you post the same "code" format it'll be nice and readable.

http://www.dolem.com/poy/

Awesome. That's going to look sweet when we're all done. Just hope we still have a decent body of voters by then.

[sp6r=underrated]

Nice work Semi

I would add the photos lend an opportunity for comedy.

[Doctor MJ]

I'll try to keep the below "RealGM POY" page up during the project so that people can easily compare winners and whatnot, so as long as you post the same "code" format it'll be nice and readable.

http://www.dolem.com/poy/

Very cool! I was planning to post a Google spreadsheet, but your page is much better. Now I also intend to eventually have tallies of POY shares over all history, and broken down by decade. Let me know if you want to put this on your site, and if so, what help you could use in doing so.

[semi-sentient]

I would add the photos lend an opportunity for comedy.

Yeah, that crossed my mind originally, so since you brought it up and reminded me, check the updated page.

[Doctor MJ]

Oh, I'll also mentioned, I've updated the first post of this thread with a link to the '08-09 thread. I'll do the same with all the other threads. So if you bookmark the main thread, you'll have access to all the rest.

[Optimism Prime]

I'll try to keep the below "RealGM POY" page up during the project so that people can easily compare winners and whatnot, so as long as you post the same "code" format it'll be nice and readable.

http://www.dolem.com/poy/

Bravo, man. That's awesome.

[semi-sentient]

I'll try to keep the below "RealGM POY" page up during the project so that people can easily compare winners and whatnot, so as long as you post the same "code" format it'll be nice and readable.

http://www.dolem.com/poy/

Very cool! I was planning to post a Google spreadsheet, but your page is much better. Now I also intend to eventually have tallies of POY shares over all history, and broken down by decade. Let me know if you want to put this on your site, and if so, what help you could use in doing so.

The page I have is just a static HTML page, but I can make it dynamic such that it reads from a CSV file (XLS can be exported to CSV easy enough).

In a nutshell, that'll allow for more flexibility so that people can view by individual year, decade, all years, individual players, etc.

After a few more seasons are out of the way, I'll see what I can come up with. The data that you provide in each thread is enough for me to build my own data structure, so don't worry about exporting anything just yet.

[sp6r=underrated]

I would add the photos lend an opportunity for comedy.

Yeah, that crossed my mind originally, so since you brought it up and reminded me, check the updated page.

All I know is if Nash ever wins it, this should be the photo

[Sedale Threatt]

"Check my stats, bitch!"

LOL. Even if that's photoshopped, that's a classic.

Some suggestions for Magic:



or



Or that GIF of him stuffing popcorn in his face.

[semi-sentient]

All I know is if Nash ever wins it, this should be the photo

We'll make that the first and this one the second:

[Sedale Threatt]

What about this?

[Sedale Threatt]

Or this...

[Sedale Threatt]

Or this...