Nikola Jokic 24-25 All-NBA (1st) Thread - 24 NBA MVP

DatAsh · Post #121 » by **DatAsh** » Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:37 am

70sFan wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:
70sFan wrote:I guess driving, P&R game, transition, ball-handling etc. are all called "highlight dunks" now.

Which of these does LBJ better than Jokic?.

All of them?

Agree, although I’d say pick and roll is at least comparable.

That said I do have Jokic’s offensive peak as clearly better than LeBron’s offensive peak.

Jokic may be the best offensive player we’ve ever seen.

Offense + defense is another question.

falcolombardi · Post #122 » by **falcolombardi** » Sun Feb 16, 2025 4:11 am

DatAsh wrote:
70sFan wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Which of these does LBJ better than Jokic?.

All of them?

Agree, although I’d say pick and roll is at least comparable.

That said I do have Jokic’s offensive peak as clearly better than LeBron’s offensive peak.

Jokic may be the best offensive player we’ve ever seen.

Offense + defense is another question.

Why?

Mickey8 · Post #123 » by **Mickey8** » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:09 am

Watch on YouTube

Why are the brothers, the ex black NBA players in the most cases such haters of Jokic and the white Euro players in general :roll:

Is it pride, some white players being better than the black players, racism ,xenophobia etc. I am trying to solve the riddle

The man in this video, the ex NBA player and five time all star is claiming that Jokic wouldn't even made it to the roster of any NBA team in the 70"s, even in the league full of plumbers and electricians. Then he gave the comparison of the certain white players who played college and NBA back then to Jokic, who were the scarabs in his words and judging by his description of those players I wonder if this old dude have ever watched Jokic playing the basketball??? Why would he singled out the player with the most translatable game to any basketball era and not some of the black players who clearly don't have the skills, like back to the basket game which was predominant in the 70"s :-?

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #124 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:07 am

Mickey8 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Why are the brothers, the ex black NBA players in the most cases such haters of Jokic and the white Euro players in general Is it pride, some white players being better than the black players, racism ,xenophobia etc. I am trying to solve the riddle The man in this video, the ex NBA player and five time all star is claiming that Jokic wouldn't even made it to the roster of any NBA team in the 70"s, even in the league full of plumbers and electricians. Then he gave the comparison of the certain white players who played college and NBA back then to Jokic, who were the scarabs in his words and judging by his description of those players I wonder if this old dude have ever watched Jokic playing the basketball??? Why would he single out the player with the most translatable game to any basketball era and not some of the black players who clearly don't have the skills, like back to the basket game which was predominant in the 70"s

is this Marques Johnson? WTF is he talking about?
He's comparing Jokic to a 230 pounds center who wouldn't go inside?

Mickey8 · Post #125 » by **Mickey8** » Sun Feb 16, 2025 2:49 pm

Yes , that's him. Its head scratching that he singled out Jokic of all the players in today's NBA, a player who has one of the best post up games of all time and who is not the soft player by any means . Also he didn't say Wembanyama wouldn't made it in the 70's even though he has zero post up game and he is built like the toothpick even though he mentioned him in the video.

LesGrossman · Post #126 » by **LesGrossman** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:15 pm

Simple. Racism. And he gets away with it.

Special_Puppy · Post #127 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:27 pm

I wish an Unhappy Birthday to the Fat Tub of Lard, the Mile High Merchant, the King of Statpadding, Chokic

web123888 · Post #128 » by **web123888** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:23 pm

Dude should legitimately be a 5x consecutive NBA MVP from 2021-2025. He'll only get 3 of them during this stretch due to voter fatigue and other reasons.

falcolombardi · Post #129 » by **falcolombardi** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 10:28 pm

web123888 wrote:Dude should legitimately be a 5x consecutive NBA MVP from 2021-2025. He'll only get 3 of them during this stretch due to voter fatigue and other reasons.

No

Special_Puppy · Post #130 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Feb 19, 2025 11:43 pm

falcolombardi wrote:
web123888 wrote:Dude should legitimately be a 5x consecutive NBA MVP from 2021-2025. He'll only get 3 of them during this stretch due to voter fatigue and other reasons.

No

Which years do you think he wasn’t the most deserving candidate? 2025?

falcolombardi · Post #131 » by **falcolombardi** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:14 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:
web123888 wrote:Dude should legitimately be a 5x consecutive NBA MVP from 2021-2025. He'll only get 3 of them during this stretch due to voter fatigue and other reasons.

No

Which years do you think he wasn’t the most deserving candidate? 2025?

Yes, but i also dont think is a 100% given he should have won 2021, 2022 or 2023 (albeit he had very strong arguments all of those years of course)

Special_Puppy · Post #132 » by **Special_Puppy** » Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:16 am

falcolombardi wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:
No

Which years do you think he wasn’t the most deserving candidate? 2025?

Yes, but i also dont think is a 100% given he should have won 2021, 2022 or 2023 (albeit he had very strong arguments all of those years of course)

I feel pretty comfortable saying that he was the most deserving candidate in those years based on my compilation of advanced stats in those years.