Anthony Randolph vs. Michael Beasley

[GswStorm3]

Beasley isn't becoming an all star anytime soon while Wade is in Miami.

[cool007]

Beasley is really being wasted in Miami IMO.

They still don't know if he should be a starting SF/PF or should be coming off the bench???

I am like WTF??? How can this guy not be a starting PF for that team? I think they are just wasting him.

I would love to have Beasley on the Bulls team (trade Tyrus + Hinrich or Deng for Beas and their bad contract).

[oaktownwarriors87]

Beasley isn't becoming an all star anytime soon while Wade is in Miami.

I think having Wade will help him, in the voting and with his game. As a second option on a team that has no real third option he has a chance to put up a lot of points and get a lot of attention from the media.

*2nd overall pick
*Plays with top 5 NBA player
*He's a scorer and that's what his team lacks

[WadeKnicks2010]

[quote="cool007"]Beasley is really being wasted in Miami IMO.

They still don't know if he should be a starting SF/PF or should be coming off the bench???

I am like WTF??? How can this guy not be a starting PF for that team? I think they are just wasting him.
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They tried starting him at the start of the season last year.. He was underperforming and really refused to play defense or pass the rock to anyone. So yeah, they handed him the starting PF job but he lost it on his own. They're going to make him work for it this time.

[ARISE_CHICKEN]

They tried starting him at the start of the season last year.. He was underperforming and really refused to play defense or pass the rock to anyone. So yeah, they handed him the starting PF job but he lost it on his own. They're going to make him work for it this time.

No that's because Udonis Haslem was a horrendous starting center. They had to start Joel Anthony of all people just because Haslem was so out of position there.

[KR4]

This argument might be skewed by meaning of "better". If you're talking stats, then people will sway towards Beas...at least offensively. If you're talking overall impact on a team's wins...then AR will be the better player, and actually already is the better player. Its like arguing who's a better player between Chauncey and Iverson. Most people would say Al Ives, but who's won all the championships?

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Beasley, undoubtedly.

[NetsForce]

This argument might be skewed by meaning of "better". If you're talking stats, then people will sway towards Beas...at least offensively. If you're talking overall impact on a team's wins...then AR will be the better player, and actually already is the better player. Its like arguing who's a better player between Chauncey and Iverson. Most people would say Al Ives, but who's won all the championships?

But Randolph hasn't won any championships...

[JordansBulls]

Is Beasley really a PF or a SF?

[KR4]

This argument might be skewed by meaning of "better". If you're talking stats, then people will sway towards Beas...at least offensively. If you're talking overall impact on a team's wins...then AR will be the better player, and actually already is the better player. Its like arguing who's a better player between Chauncey and Iverson. Most people would say Al Ives, but who's won all the championships?

But Randolph hasn't won any championships...

And neither have the Nets. At least in the NBA.

Hey oh!

[Wade2k6]

This argument might be skewed by meaning of "better". If you're talking stats, then people will sway towards Beas...at least offensively. If you're talking overall impact on a team's wins...then AR will be the better player, and actually already is the better player. Its like arguing who's a better player between Chauncey and Iverson. Most people would say Al Ives, but who's won all the championships?

But Randolph hasn't won any championships...

And neither have the Nets. At least in the NBA.

Hey oh!

What do the Nets have to do with this comparison? Why is it that whenever somebody disagrees with something somebody else says they have to bring up something negative against that persons favorite team or player? (EX: Bringing up the Nets success/Beasley)

[5Strong]

There were three reasons why Randolph didn't play that many minutes last year.

The first was that he had zero polish coming out of college. He often played too out of control and tired to force things on the both the practice and game floor.

The second was that Nellie didn't realize he was a PF. Early on he was slotted as a SF, and while he can do many SF things, his game explodes at the PF position. When Nellie finally gave him some looks at PF, he played so well Nelson had no choice but to play him more minutes. It's important to note that in the few minutes he did play early on in the season he DID produce at an insane per-minute rate. But Nelson was looking at what he was doing wrong, not what he was doing right. And I don't blame coach for doing that---it was the right thing to do. He needed to cement those mistakes in Randolph's head so as to speed up his learning curve during this lost season.

The last was that Nelson knew he had something special on his hands, but also saw a player that never before in his life had been anything but the Big Man on Campus. He needed to be tested and challenged so as to fully engage his mental capacity and intensity. Nelson has a history of picking players and riding them so hard they might want to quit. Many of them do. Needless to say Randolph passed with flying colors. Look for him to be our starting PF on opening day.

Raw players are usually a risk because they may 1)not have the work ethic, 2)not have the physical tools needed to excel at a specific position in the NBA, or 3)are dumbasses. Randolph is none of the above. The guy, simply put, has a competitive streak that I really don't see being outmatched by anyone in this league except for Kobe Bryant. Mentally he's a monster. Combined with the physical tools = trouble for the rest of the league

Coming out of college last season Beasley was the better player but it's only inevitable that Randolph leapfrogs him, because nothing but injuries will stop him. Perception-wise it may already be happening (poll results) and Randolph very well should back that up and cement the argument this season. He already played better than Beasley in the minutes they did play, he just didn't get as many for the reasons stated above.

[ARownsBeasley]

anyone who picked beasley needs too check out an nba season pass and then get back to us.

[NO-KG-AI]

Lol, yea, Randolph is the second most driven player in the league after Kobe Bryant. That's such an insult to so many players that have payed dues, bled and sweat more than Randolph can even dream of right now.

Wow, yea, I'm done, you guys are **** hopeless.

[ARownsBeasley]

finally, maybe we can have some real conversations with out having ridiculous KG homers come in and ruin everything

[CB4MiamiHeat]

Beasley actually played an important role....he was the 6th man on a playoff team, he was the 2nd leading scorer on a playoff team. He had to carry the scoring load when Wade was getting rest. 14ppg off the bench on a winning team is not near ROY material, buts its a solid season. And he actually played MEANINGFUL minutes.

Randolph played less than 20 minutes a game on a team 30 games under .500. Warriors werent in too many meaningful games at all. Lets look at the reality of what really happened last season, this last page is very biased.

[NO-KG-AI]

And neither have the Nets. At least in the NBA.

Hey oh!

What do the Nets have to do with this comparison? Why is it that whenever somebody disagrees with something somebody else says they have to bring up something negative against that persons favorite team or player? (EX: Bringing up the Nets success/Beasley)

Like this?

finally, maybe we can have some real conversations with out having ridiculous KG homers come in and ruin everything

You guys pimping Randolph have become the joke of the forum, degrading the quality of it all. It doesn't matter if Randolph is an all star next year, the fact that people think he's grown to be taller than Tim Duncan and Dwight Howard, and the proclaiming of him being the second most competitive player in the league(based on what exactly?) already makes you look like a joke.

I would slap you all in the face for proclaiming a rookie on a terrible team, who hasn't done anything but play an energetic 17 minutes a game on a garbage team, get in trouble for his attitude at practice, get in and out of Nellie's doghouse, and produce some nice highlights, to be more competitive than someone like Tim Duncan, or plenty of other players.

It's not Randolph we hate, it's the ridiculous hyperbole.

I don't know why I'm still talking, it's a pointless battle.

[Sid the Squid]

lol at you for throwing our terms like "people" and "you guys" when you are really reffering to one or maybe 2 posters.

and yes it does matter if Randolph is good next year and better than Beasley
..That's the whole point you twit.

Warrior fans have been right all along about Ant Randolph..You haters have been laughing at us for going on 14 months now..You're digging quite a hole. Go crawl in it.

[Optms]

Some of you guys are overrating Anthony Randolph like crazy. Did I just read future HOF in one the replies?????? Crazy.

I'd 9 times out of 10 would much rather have Beasley on my roster.

[Sid the Squid]

lol at your talent evalueation skills.