Moonbeam wrote:Doctor MJ wrote:Stop with the "I get that you don't like this guy". To the extent i don't like him now, it's because of recent behavior, not the other way around.
I'm going to just try to get things as simple as I can here. My (2) option was "Aldridge doesn't say those words, but he says very positive things.", my (1) option was "Aldridge unofficially says he's coming."
Can we at least agree that if he said (1), it says negative things about his integrity?
If not, I think you're crazy.
If so, so then for you the key thing is that the guy has to literally say the words, even though they don't legally mean anything, and if he uses anything less literal, no matter how flirtatious, it's not an integrity issue.
My issue then is that I think in practice that's not how conversation works. We don't force people to say just the right words before we commit to going forward with them precisely because we know that the right words are still nothing more than wind if it isn't in writing, and hence the very nature of the discussion is based on the integrity of the two sides not misleading the other.
Put it this way: If you know a girl who has a tendency to get guys to break up with their girlfriends for her, and then says she just wants to be friends, there's a problem with this girl. Fine to say there were problems with the guys too, but there's some kind of a problem with the girl, and whether or not it's a pre-meditated thing, it is an integrity issue. The words and tone coming out of her mouth do not communicate her intentions, and appear to communicate very different intentions.
If to you that's not an integrity thing, that's fine, but it's a problem nonetheless.
I can get behind the sentiment of this. However, I don't think it's so much that Aldridge was leading other teams on (intentionally or not), I think that it may have more to do with the fact that he's not the easiest guy to read. I could definitely see Aldridge hearing a pitch from, say, the Suns, and responding with something like, "Yeah, that sounds really good. I could see this situation working for me", but because of his mannerisms, it might come off to one person like a lukewarm reaction and another like great interest. I suppose you'd like to think he'd be self-aware enough to know how that he could come across that way and be careful of not just how he chooses his words, but how he
says them, but a guy that was listening to lots of pitches from different teams (and possibly flying around a bit to hear them - not sure on where these meetings were all held), may not be at his best in reading the mood of the room, either.
Well here's what i'll say: If we think of a hypothetical example of an autistic person, do I really want to say an autistic person lacks integrity because of issues like this? No.
But it's not like you have to be good at reading a room here because you can say whatever you want. You can error on the side of making things crystal clear. And if you need a minute to step out and talk to your agent, you can do that too. So to me, if you're at all a typical person who cares about not giving the wrong impression, it's really clear what you need to do.
Again I'll acknowledge that the team in question deserves blame. I'll be the first to say that the Suns' management has seemed incompetent for a very long time, and they should be criticized here if they really made moves they wouldn't have otherwise made. But it should bother Aldridge that this happened.