The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1)

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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1) 

Post#1341 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Mar 6, 2016 1:13 am

The-Power wrote:Another nice stat I read somewhere: the Warriors are 54-0 this season in games in which they led by 7 or more points at any point in the game. They are 55-5 overall.


That seems like a really damn big deal, and goes right along to how crazy dominant they've been in the crunch.

The fear with a jump shooting team is that they are more likely to lose leads. That this isn't happening for the Warriors to me doesn't mean that it isn't true of them in principle, rather I think it just says that as dominant as they've been, they still aren't playing at 100% effort except when they need to.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1) 

Post#1342 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Mar 6, 2016 1:15 am

jumpstart wrote:I think Curry can surpass LBJ's legacy.


I think he can surpass everyone's legacy.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1) 

Post#1343 » by ThaRegul8r » Sun Mar 6, 2016 1:50 am

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PCProductions wrote:Man 55-5. Sometimes the record just needs to be looked at and thought about for a good minute.

Wow.

Also the amazing thing is how they came out this year. You would expect something like this from a team that had just lost the title more than a team that had just won it.


No one expects something like this.

No one expected the 76ers to start 46-4 and win 68 in '67, no one expected the Lakers to win 33 straight and 69 total in '72, no one expected the Bulls to win 72 in '96, no one expected the Warriors to win however many games they'll ultimately win this season.

In fact, on the occasions people actually expected a team to dominate winning 70+ before a season, they didn't come close when everything was said and done.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1) 

Post#1344 » by The-Power » Sun Mar 6, 2016 10:30 pm

Arguably his worst game of the season so far. Shot is totally off (I've never seen him miss this badly this often), careless turnovers (bad passes, sloppy handles) and he didn't really find a way to make the Lakers pay when they blitzed him. It doesn't help that almost all players today struggled to perform at least at their normal level.

Seems like one of these games where nobody was mentally sharp. They were bad from the start but the Lakers couldn't really score any better in the first quarter, so the whole team probably assumed that once their shot and usual execution returns, it's going to be an easy game. Well, the shot and execution didn't come back and the Lakers found ways to score...
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1) 

Post#1345 » by Dr Spaceman » Sun Mar 6, 2016 10:50 pm

The-Power wrote:Arguably his worst game of the season so far. Shot is totally off (I've never seen him miss this badly this often), careless turnovers (bad passes, sloppy handles) and he didn't really find a way to make the Lakers pay when they blitzed him. It doesn't help that almost all players today struggled to perform at least at their normal level.

Seems like one of these games where nobody was mentally sharp. They were bad from the start but the Lakers couldn't really score any better in the first quarter, so the whole team probably assumed that once their shot and usual execution returns, it's going to be an easy game. Well, the shot and execution didn't come back and the Lakers found ways to score...


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Post#1346 » by RSCD3_ » Sun Mar 6, 2016 11:17 pm

"This is why jump shooting teams don't win multiple championships Ernie. The warriors fluked into a title last yet against a broken down Cleveland team but when faced with playoff level defense, they folded. I don't know if this team is tough enough to win it all. "

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Or at least how I think he would phrase it if this game was on TNT
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Post#1347 » by JordansBulls » Sun Mar 6, 2016 11:46 pm

3 game difference between them and San Antonio and 3 more games between the two against one another. Spurs need to go 17-3 to get 70 and Warriors 15-6. I hope when they play Pops isn't sitting guys out on purpose like he usually does.
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Post#1348 » by lorak » Sun Mar 6, 2016 11:47 pm

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Post#1349 » by Clyde Frazier » Mon Mar 7, 2016 12:07 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8RaAVZrzo[/youtube]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199603240TOR.html

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Post#1350 » by JordansBulls » Mon Mar 7, 2016 12:21 am

The strange thing is most of G.S losses have been to bad to mediocore teams but blow outs as well.
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Post#1351 » by nikomCH » Mon Mar 7, 2016 12:30 am

I thought it was kind of funny how Klay mentioned in an interview today how Curry is on pace to set the all time record for PER. I really didn't think any of the players cared about stats like that
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Post#1352 » by ThaRegul8r » Mon Mar 7, 2016 1:01 am

JordansBulls wrote:The strange thing is most of G.S losses have been to bad to mediocore teams but blow outs as well.


I don't remember who off-hand, but someone already made a thread about how the few losses the Warriors had were blowouts.
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Re: The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1) 

Post#1353 » by The-Power » Mon Mar 7, 2016 1:05 am

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The-Power wrote:Arguably his worst game of the season so far. Shot is totally off (I've never seen him miss this badly this often), careless turnovers (bad passes, sloppy handles) and he didn't really find a way to make the Lakers pay when they blitzed him. It doesn't help that almost all players today struggled to perform at least at their normal level.

Seems like one of these games where nobody was mentally sharp. They were bad from the start but the Lakers couldn't really score any better in the first quarter, so the whole team probably assumed that once their shot and usual execution returns, it's going to be an easy game. Well, the shot and execution didn't come back and the Lakers found ways to score...


Time to blow it up, I think...

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Post#1354 » by ThaRegul8r » Mon Mar 7, 2016 1:07 am

JordansBulls wrote:3 game difference between them and San Antonio and 3 more games between the two against one another. Spurs need to go 17-3 to get 70 and Warriors 15-6. I hope when they play Pops isn't sitting guys out on purpose like he usually does.


Well, if they somehow both ended up winning 70, one of them will not win the championship.

So with that being the case, winning 70 on its own doesn't guarantee anything. Having all ones personnel ready to go for the postseason run > anything else, when we're going to have a case where we'll have a team with one of the best single-season records in NBA history who won't even make it to the Finals.
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Post#1355 » by RSCD3_ » Mon Mar 7, 2016 2:23 am

SideshowBob wrote: <->


Do you happen to have the warriors SRS and DRTG/ORTG since February

They've seemed to be slipping a bit lately especially on defense and overall margin wise, kind of like the heat did during their 27 game win streak but id like to know how the numbers look.
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Post#1356 » by Doctor MJ » Mon Mar 7, 2016 2:26 am

JordansBulls wrote:The strange thing is most of G.S losses have been to bad to mediocore teams but blow outs as well.


It seems really clear that there are games the Warriors don't get up for, and then when they are down they decide it's not worth doubling down on.

I'd be interested in seeing some analysis of how the Warriors have done against playoff teams compared to other all-time great level teams. I think that's what really will peg what the team is.
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Post#1357 » by Dipper 13 » Mon Mar 7, 2016 4:32 am

Games like this can happen in the NBA, its a long season. Even the '68 Sixers were humiliated one night by the worst team in the league (-7.94 SRS).


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San Diego was the worst team in the league that year, and they'd lost 17 straight when we came to town. That tied the league record San Francisco had set in 1965 — when Alex was coaching the Warriors. If we could beat San Diego, which seemed a cinch, Alex would "lose" that record — happily! We had had a tough game in Los Angeles the night before — winning 135-134 in double overtime — and a lot of the guys had partied all night afterwards. Hal got stinking drunk, and Billy and a couple of the other guys had too much beer, too. My folks lived in Los Angeles then, in a 40-unit apartment building I'd built, and I spent the night with them. When I got to San Diego the next day, a couple of the 76ers looked like they were still hung over.

But they weren't resting, trying to shake it off. They were out playing golf — something you should never do on the day of a game, drunk or sober. I got real pissed at them, but they didn't take me too seriously. "It's the Wilt Chamberlain Memorial Golf Tournment," Billy told me. Well, we got our asses kicked in San Diego that night. Late in the third quarter, we were behind 86-68 — the best team in basketball was behind the worst team in basketball by 18 points! The guys started to feel ashamed then, and tried to pull themselves together. We put on a helluva rally. But the booze and partying and golf were too much. We lost 111-106.
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Post#1358 » by lorak » Mon Mar 7, 2016 8:22 am

RSCD3_ wrote:
SideshowBob wrote: <->


Do you happen to have the warriors SRS and DRTG/ORTG since February

They've seemed to be slipping a bit lately especially on defense and overall margin wise, kind of like the heat did during their 27 game win streak but id like to know how the numbers look.


Month by month:

Code: Select all

ORTG   DRTG   PACE   NET   MONTH
116,4   100,9   98,5   15,5   X&XI
111,3   104,3   99,3   7,0   XII
117,7   103,6   98,8   14,1   I
112,9   108,1   103,2   4,8   II
109,9   109,3   95,4   0,6   III


So they regressed a lot and if not some lucky (?) wins, they would have worse record. No surprise Spurs have better SRS.
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Post#1359 » by D.Brasco » Mon Mar 7, 2016 9:09 am

Dipper 13 wrote:Games like this can happen in the NBA, its a long season. Even the '68 Sixers were humiliated one night by the worst team in the league (-7.94 SRS).


Wilt: Just Like Any Other 7-Foot Black Millionaire who Lives Next Door - Wilt Chamberlain (1973)

San Diego was the worst team in the league that year, and they'd lost 17 straight when we came to town. That tied the league record San Francisco had set in 1965 — when Alex was coaching the Warriors. If we could beat San Diego, which seemed a cinch, Alex would "lose" that record — happily! We had had a tough game in Los Angeles the night before — winning 135-134 in double overtime — and a lot of the guys had partied all night afterwards. Hal got stinking drunk, and Billy and a couple of the other guys had too much beer, too. My folks lived in Los Angeles then, in a 40-unit apartment building I'd built, and I spent the night with them. When I got to San Diego the next day, a couple of the 76ers looked like they were still hung over.

But they weren't resting, trying to shake it off. They were out playing golf — something you should never do on the day of a game, drunk or sober. I got real pissed at them, but they didn't take me too seriously. "It's the Wilt Chamberlain Memorial Golf Tournment," Billy told me. Well, we got our asses kicked in San Diego that night. Late in the third quarter, we were behind 86-68 — the best team in basketball was behind the worst team in basketball by 18 points! The guys started to feel ashamed then, and tried to pull themselves together. We put on a helluva rally. But the booze and partying and golf were too much. We lost 111-106.


Probably been brought up already but the '96 Bulls dropped a game to the expansion Toronto Raptors.
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Post#1360 » by ThaRegul8r » Mon Mar 7, 2016 12:01 pm

D.Brasco wrote:
Dipper 13 wrote:Games like this can happen in the NBA, its a long season. Even the '68 Sixers were humiliated one night by the worst team in the league (-7.94 SRS).


Wilt: Just Like Any Other 7-Foot Black Millionaire who Lives Next Door - Wilt Chamberlain (1973)

San Diego was the worst team in the league that year, and they'd lost 17 straight when we came to town. That tied the league record San Francisco had set in 1965 — when Alex was coaching the Warriors. If we could beat San Diego, which seemed a cinch, Alex would "lose" that record — happily! We had had a tough game in Los Angeles the night before — winning 135-134 in double overtime — and a lot of the guys had partied all night afterwards. Hal got stinking drunk, and Billy and a couple of the other guys had too much beer, too. My folks lived in Los Angeles then, in a 40-unit apartment building I'd built, and I spent the night with them. When I got to San Diego the next day, a couple of the 76ers looked like they were still hung over.

But they weren't resting, trying to shake it off. They were out playing golf — something you should never do on the day of a game, drunk or sober. I got real pissed at them, but they didn't take me too seriously. "It's the Wilt Chamberlain Memorial Golf Tournment," Billy told me. Well, we got our asses kicked in San Diego that night. Late in the third quarter, we were behind 86-68 — the best team in basketball was behind the worst team in basketball by 18 points! The guys started to feel ashamed then, and tried to pull themselves together. We put on a helluva rally. But the booze and partying and golf were too much. We lost 111-106.


Probably been brought up already but the '96 Bulls dropped a game to the expansion Toronto Raptors.


True, though they did say multiple times at the end of the broadcast once it was apparent that Golden State wasn't going to make a comeback that the difference in winning percentage between the Warriors (91.7%) and the Lakers (19.0%) was the biggest in NBA history in a game in which the team with the lower winning percentage beat the team with the higher percentage, and in that sense was the biggest regular-season upset in NBA history.

1) The Raptors won 21 games that year, so the Lakers are on pace to win less games this year (17) than the Raptors did in '96.

2) The Bulls were 60-7 (89.6%) going into that game, and the Raptors were 17-49 (25.8%).

3) The Bulls lost that game by a point (109-108) on a free throw with 21 seconds left and a missed 3-pointer by Steve Kerr with one second left, while the Warriors lost by 17.

The Raptors got a fluke one-point win with the shocker being that it was a close game to begin with, while the Warriors were blown out by a worse team than the expansion Raptors were. Also recall back that it took a 3-pointer with less than a second left for the 42-4 Warriors (91.3%) to beat the 7-40 (14.9%) 76ers earlier this year.
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