#19 - GOAT peaks project (2019)

[No-more-rings]

There is no way to know that and it is to ridiculous to assert that.

The cavs weren't as good as the spurs either unless we only look at offense.

Which part is ridiculous?

I find it absurd that the Spurs could take more than 2 games against those Warriors.

call me a homer but I'm actually totally in on the idea that the Spurs could have beat the warriors that year. That spurs team was REALLY good. Way better than people remember. It's easy to say the Warriors were just unbeatable looking back on it but the reality is they were very close to losing every single year. Once it was the Thunder, once it was the Rockets, once the Cavs did beat them, and in 2017 it could have been the Spurs.

I’m not buying this at all.

None of those years you mentioned were the Warriors nearly as good as they were in those playoffs. In 2018 they were just worse in every possible way, 2017 was that one year where basically everyone was playing at their best or close to it and everyone was healthy. But it’s something i may start a thread on because i find it ridiculous honestly.

The 2018 Rockets actually had a better record, better offense and defense, everything over the Warriors that year so them nearly beating is a way different story.

[cecilthesheep]

Which part is ridiculous?

I find it absurd that the Spurs could take more than 2 games against those Warriors.

call me a homer but I'm actually totally in on the idea that the Spurs could have beat the warriors that year. That spurs team was REALLY good. Way better than people remember. It's easy to say the Warriors were just unbeatable looking back on it but the reality is they were very close to losing every single year. Once it was the Thunder, once it was the Rockets, once the Cavs did beat them, and in 2017 it could have been the Spurs.

I’m not buying this at all.

None of those years you mentioned were the Warriors nearly as good as they were in those playoffs. In 2018 they were just worse in every possible way, 2017 was that one year where basically everyone was playing at their best or close to it and everyone was healthy. But it’s something i may start a thread on because i find it ridiculous honestly.

The 2018 Rockets actually had a better record, better offense and defense, everything over the Warriors that year so them nearly beating is a way different story.

This seems very results-based to me. It's easy to explain stuff after it happens, it's harder to be certain about hypotheticals. If you didn't know the outcome of the 2016 Finals, you could say all these same things about the chances of the Cavs beating the Warriors.

[No-more-rings]

call me a homer but I'm actually totally in on the idea that the Spurs could have beat the warriors that year. That spurs team was REALLY good. Way better than people remember. It's easy to say the Warriors were just unbeatable looking back on it but the reality is they were very close to losing every single year. Once it was the Thunder, once it was the Rockets, once the Cavs did beat them, and in 2017 it could have been the Spurs.

I’m not buying this at all.

None of those years you mentioned were the Warriors nearly as good as they were in those playoffs. In 2018 they were just worse in every possible way, 2017 was that one year where basically everyone was playing at their best or close to it and everyone was healthy. But it’s something i may start a thread on because i find it ridiculous honestly.

The 2018 Rockets actually had a better record, better offense and defense, everything over the Warriors that year so them nearly beating is a way different story.

This seems very results-based to me. It's easy to explain stuff after it happens, it's harder to be certain about hypotheticals. If you didn't know the outcome of the 2016 Finals, you could say all these same things about the chances of the Cavs beating the Warriors.

The Spurs didn’t have Lebron James to play at a goat level, and no not really since the Thunder pushed them to 7 as well. Everyone knows the Warriors weren’t as good as expected in those playoffs.

[cecilthesheep]

I’m not buying this at all.

None of those years you mentioned were the Warriors nearly as good as they were in those playoffs. In 2018 they were just worse in every possible way, 2017 was that one year where basically everyone was playing at their best or close to it and everyone was healthy. But it’s something i may start a thread on because i find it ridiculous honestly.

The 2018 Rockets actually had a better record, better offense and defense, everything over the Warriors that year so them nearly beating is a way different story.

This seems very results-based to me. It's easy to explain stuff after it happens, it's harder to be certain about hypotheticals. If you didn't know the outcome of the 2016 Finals, you could say all these same things about the chances of the Cavs beating the Warriors.

The Spurs didn’t have Lebron James to play at a goat level, and no not really since the Thunder pushed them to 7 as well. Everyone knows the Warriors weren’t as good as expected in those playoffs.

my point is that we'll never know whether the Warriors would have been "as good as expected" in '17, because Kawhi got hurt. They certainly weren't as good as expected in that first half.