LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1441 » by PistolPeteJR » Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:46 pm

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Post#1442 » by Baski » Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:54 pm

TroubleS0me wrote:Frank Vogel appears to be going full high school basketball coach mode after his team’s latest loss.

The Los Angeles Lakers head coach Vogel announced at practice on Monday that every player would have to make 25 free throws before finishing their day’s work, per ESPN’s Dave McMenamin.

That sounds a lot like a punishment for the Lakers players, especially after free throws hurt them in their last game against the Golden State Warriors, which they lost 117-115. LeBron James received the brunt of the criticism for missing from the line late when the Lakers had a chance to tie the game. But the team as a whole missed 11 free throws, which was especially costly in an eventual two-point loss.

https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/frank-vogel-punishing-lakers-practice-loss/591992

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Wait so that isn't how most teams practice already? This makes it sound like all they do during practice is scrimmage and then go home. It would explain a lot.
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1443 » by thebigbird » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:34 pm

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thebigbird wrote:Bron should’ve went to the Clippers. Their fans would actually appreciate him, and their front office isn’t full of imbeciles. Words can’t even explain how incompetent the Lakers are.


You should get on your bike and support them too.

Honestly don’t even know what this is supposed to mean :-?
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Post#1444 » by falcolombardi » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:35 pm

in before tyreke Hill signing instead of bembry or gary harris
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Post#1445 » by Greyhound » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:58 pm

falcolombardi wrote:in before tyreke Hill signing instead of bembry or gary harris

Do you mean Tyreke Evens?
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Post#1446 » by Mos_Heat » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:59 pm

falcolombardi wrote:in before tyreke Hill signing instead of bembry or gary harris

Should sign Travis Kelce instead
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Post#1447 » by falcolombardi » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:12 pm

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falcolombardi wrote:in before tyreke Hill signing instead of bembry or gary harris

Should sign Travis Kelce instead


lmao, tyreke evans sorry
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Post#1448 » by falcolombardi » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:13 pm

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falcolombardi wrote:in before tyreke Hill signing instead of bembry or gary harris

Do you mean Tyreke Evens?


lol yes,i meant evans now that his weed van or whatever is up
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Post#1449 » by thebigbird » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:25 pm

Man….

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Post#1450 » by falcolombardi » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:54 pm

thebigbird wrote:Man….

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obviously lebron fault/s
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Post#1451 » by zimpy27 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:59 pm

thebigbird wrote:Man….

Read on Twitter
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Post#1452 » by falcolombardi » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:08 pm

if lebron wanted jeanny buss wouldnt be a cheap ass/s
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Post#1453 » by zimpy27 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:15 pm

Honestly though, I wouldn't have done that trade. This season is about building some chemistry with what they have and doing their best. I'd be waiting for the offseason. That Westbrook $44m and 2 FRPs could be worth a bit.
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Post#1454 » by thebigbird » Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:52 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Honestly though, I wouldn't have done that trade. This season is about building some chemistry with what they have and doing their best. I'd be waiting for the offseason. That Westbrook $44m and 2 FRPs could be worth a bit.

In theory that strategy makes sense, but I’m not sure it does when your best player is in his 19th season. There’s no guarantee that LeBron doesn’t fall off a cliff next year. When he’s playing at as high of a level as he is, you gotta do everything you can to maximize your team, and you definitely can’t turn down trades because of the luxury tax. Jeanie’s penny pinching has killed this team.
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Post#1455 » by falcolombardi » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:28 pm

the buss siblings are simply bad owners

they should know that lakers is their golden goose, devaluating the brand by not investing to win will kill the brand long term
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Post#1456 » by zimpy27 » Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:58 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:Honestly though, I wouldn't have done that trade. This season is about building some chemistry with what they have and doing their best. I'd be waiting for the offseason. That Westbrook $44m and 2 FRPs could be worth a bit.

In theory that strategy makes sense, but I’m not sure it does when your best player is in his 19th season. There’s no guarantee that LeBron doesn’t fall off a cliff next year. When he’s playing at as high of a level as he is, you gotta do everything you can to maximize your team, and you definitely can’t turn down trades because of the luxury tax. Jeanie’s penny pinching has killed this team.


Lakers just have to go for it. If Beal wants to come to Lakers he can agree to opt-in for a trade of Westbrook+27FRP+29FRP+28swap, then extend with Lakers at the 35% max..

I think that kind of deal is very real if Beal wants to play with LeBron+Davis.. But only if Beal states he'd opt in for this trade or move on elsewhere in FA for nothing. Seems unlikely.

There'd be more realistic targets of longterm contracts that teams are trying to get out of.
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Post#1457 » by trickshot » Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:53 am

thebigbird wrote:Man….

Read on Twitter
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My advice, ditch the 3 star model if you can't afford it. It's not for everyone, Very expensive unless multiple people are underpaid. For it to work you have to slide into a situation where multiple pieces are already under long term underpaid contracts. Even the Heat barely made it work.

However here's what I don't get about the general direction though. Why were you retaining flexibility to chase Giannis all those years when you could barely afford the 3 star model? Surely you know being competitive doesn't end at signing the player. Retaining anyone good is where the cost comes. If you wanted a revolving door style for roster spots 4-8 then you'll be lucky to even get any kind of nba level help. Good luck when one of the players is 37 and the other is injury prone.

Hear your FO want to package Westbrook, 27th and 29th in the summer for a star, I'd shelf even those plans. The big 3 doesn't have to happen if you can't afford it. Harden, Lillard, whomever, they all come with big backcourt needs that need to be supplemented with legit 2 way help. It's not just a big 3.
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1458 » by Greyhound » Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:00 am

thebigbird wrote:Man….

Read on Twitter
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LOL
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Post#1459 » by Fadeaway_J » Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:07 am

donnieme wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Man….

Read on Twitter
?s=21


My advice, ditch the 3 star model if you can't afford it. It's not for everyone, Very expensive unless multiple people are underpaid. For it to work you have to slide into a situation where multiple pieces are already under long term underpaid contracts. Even the Heat barely made it work.

However here's what I don't get about the general direction though. Why were you retaining flexibility to chase Giannis all those years when you could barely afford the 3 star model? Surely you know being competitive doesn't end at signing the player. Retaining anyone good is where the cost comes. If you wanted a revolving door style for roster spots 4-8 then you'll be lucky to even get any kind of nba level help. Good luck when one of the players is 37 and the other is injury prone.

The problem is that their decision-makers are permanently starstruck. In their minds, all that matters is getting LeBron/AD/Kawhi/Giannis and everything else will follow. Even when they witness first-hand how important guys like KCP and Caruso can be, they feel like they can just replace them with a bunch of minimums. (Maybe that would work if your third "superstar" were even an All-Star, and your second hadn't stopped playing at an All-NBA level in 2020.)
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Post#1460 » by trickshot » Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:24 am

Fadeaway_J wrote:
donnieme wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Man….

et]?s=21


My advice, ditch the 3 star model if you can't afford it. It's not for everyone, Very expensive unless multiple people are underpaid. For it to work you have to slide into a situation where multiple pieces are already under long term underpaid contracts. Even the Heat barely made it work.

However here's what I don't get about the general direction though. Why were you retaining flexibility to chase Giannis all those years when you could barely afford the 3 star model? Surely you know being competitive doesn't end at signing the player. Retaining anyone good is where the cost comes. If you wanted a revolving door style for roster spots 4-8 then you'll be lucky to even get any kind of nba level help. Good luck when one of the players is 37 and the other is injury prone.

The problem is that their decision-makers are permanently starstruck. In their minds, all that matters is getting LeBron/AD/Kawhi/Giannis and everything else will follow. Even when they witness first-hand how important guys like KCP and Caruso can be, they feel like they can just replace them with a bunch of minimums. (Maybe that would work if your third "superstar" were even an All-Star, and your second hadn't stopped playing at an All-NBA level in 2020.)

Assumed they already knew it was going to be tax hell when they were after the big 3s. You'd have to work something incredibly crafty. I assume this is an accurate lux tax tracker. I actually thought you were already top 5 with 2 all Nba guys and that humongous Westbrook contact. Really emphasizes the need for every member of the big 3s to actually play big to the last cent, lesser guys must earn their check, cant have players fall off or someone else's load doubles. It's a bit overrated tbh.
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