LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1461 » by nzahir » Wed Feb 16, 2022 3:26 am

zimpy27 wrote:Honestly though, I wouldn't have done that trade. This season is about building some chemistry with what they have and doing their best. I'd be waiting for the offseason. That Westbrook $44m and 2 FRPs could be worth a bit.

But will the Lakers be willing to move a 2029 1st and a 2027 1st?

And honestly, is it enough?

This version of AD isn't a top 10 impact guy

Lebron needs a 1a/1b with him at this point of his career

And look at the roster

Say Monk stays for cheap for some reason, maybe we promise him a longer deal in 2023

Say Nunn opts in

Say we use an MLE on a serviceable wing and that even works out

We have 5 guys who can play most nights in a real playoff series

Not sure if THT develops quickly enough

Can Russ bring back 2-3 real quality guys who are undervalued in terms of actual winning?
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Post#1462 » by zimpy27 » Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:36 am

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zimpy27 wrote:Honestly though, I wouldn't have done that trade. This season is about building some chemistry with what they have and doing their best. I'd be waiting for the offseason. That Westbrook $44m and 2 FRPs could be worth a bit.

But will the Lakers be willing to move a 2029 1st and a 2027 1st?

And honestly, is it enough?

This version of AD isn't a top 10 impact guy

Lebron needs a 1a/1b with him at this point of his career

And look at the roster

Say Monk stays for cheap for some reason, maybe we promise him a longer deal in 2023

Say Nunn opts in

Say we use an MLE on a serviceable wing and that even works out

We have 5 guys who can play most nights in a real playoff series

Not sure if THT develops quickly enough

Can Russ bring back 2-3 real quality guys who are undervalued in terms of actual winning?


It's enough depending on the move made.

- Beal opt-in and trade instead of hitting FA, 47m expiring+2FRP+1swap is a decent offer. KCP added for salary match and it's Nunn, Beal, KCP, LeBron, Davis. That's enough.
- Another mix suggested is Brogdon+Hield with 2 FRPs (I personally think 1 FRP and a swap should be enough). You're looking at Nunn, Brogdon, Hield, LeBron, Davis as an example. That's decent, should still have an FRP up the sleeve IMO.
- A few lux tax teams may implode - Heat, Jazz, Dallas may want a retool, GSW may want out of Klay or Wiggins.

I think if Monk is back he has to take the TaxMLE.
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1463 » by Ursusamericanus » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:48 am

I really wonder if he can squeeze out one more title before he hangs 'em up. I sure hope so.
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1464 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:28 am

zimpy27 wrote:
nzahir wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:Honestly though, I wouldn't have done that trade. This season is about building some chemistry with what they have and doing their best. I'd be waiting for the offseason. That Westbrook $44m and 2 FRPs could be worth a bit.

But will the Lakers be willing to move a 2029 1st and a 2027 1st?

And honestly, is it enough?

This version of AD isn't a top 10 impact guy

Lebron needs a 1a/1b with him at this point of his career

And look at the roster

Say Monk stays for cheap for some reason, maybe we promise him a longer deal in 2023

Say Nunn opts in

Say we use an MLE on a serviceable wing and that even works out

We have 5 guys who can play most nights in a real playoff series

Not sure if THT develops quickly enough

Can Russ bring back 2-3 real quality guys who are undervalued in terms of actual winning?


It's enough depending on the move made.

- Beal opt-in and trade instead of hitting FA, 47m expiring+2FRP+1swap is a decent offer. KCP added for salary match and it's Nunn, Beal, KCP, LeBron, Davis. That's enough.
- Another mix suggested is Brogdon+Hield with 2 FRPs (I personally think 1 FRP and a swap should be enough). You're looking at Nunn, Brogdon, Hield, LeBron, Davis as an example. That's decent, should still have an FRP up the sleeve IMO.
- A few lux tax teams may implode - Heat, Jazz, Dallas may want a retool, GSW may want out of Klay or Wiggins.

I think if Monk is back he has to take the TaxMLE.

I think SnT is more likely with Beal
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Post#1465 » by zimpy27 » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:57 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
nzahir wrote:But will the Lakers be willing to move a 2029 1st and a 2027 1st?

And honestly, is it enough?

This version of AD isn't a top 10 impact guy

Lebron needs a 1a/1b with him at this point of his career

And look at the roster

Say Monk stays for cheap for some reason, maybe we promise him a longer deal in 2023

Say Nunn opts in

Say we use an MLE on a serviceable wing and that even works out

We have 5 guys who can play most nights in a real playoff series

Not sure if THT develops quickly enough

Can Russ bring back 2-3 real quality guys who are undervalued in terms of actual winning?


It's enough depending on the move made.

- Beal opt-in and trade instead of hitting FA, 47m expiring+2FRP+1swap is a decent offer. KCP added for salary match and it's Nunn, Beal, KCP, LeBron, Davis. That's enough.
- Another mix suggested is Brogdon+Hield with 2 FRPs (I personally think 1 FRP and a swap should be enough). You're looking at Nunn, Brogdon, Hield, LeBron, Davis as an example. That's decent, should still have an FRP up the sleeve IMO.
- A few lux tax teams may implode - Heat, Jazz, Dallas may want a retool, GSW may want out of Klay or Wiggins.

I think if Monk is back he has to take the TaxMLE.

I think SnT is more likely with Beal


Lakers would be hard-capped. If a player chooses to opt in for a trade then they can sign effectively a 5 year contract with an extension.

CP3 going to Houston did this.
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1466 » by Ian Scuffling » Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:25 pm

migya wrote:
IG2 wrote:
Greatness wrote:If LeBron even has an average shooting game they win this one easily


If LeBron resembled a G league player in the 4th Lakers would've won the game. That was undoubtedly the worst qtr of basketball I've ever seen him play.

3 pts
1-9 FG
3 turnovers
Missed FT that ends the game

This should've been a season changing W for LA. They played their heart out. Instead....



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De derp. Brilliant.
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Post#1467 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:38 pm

thebigbird wrote:Man….

Read on Twitter
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Meh, the Lakers were probably better off not doing that trade. Wood would just be another Drummond (in terms of empty stat-padding) and Trez (in terms of attitude/drama).
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Post#1468 » by The High Cyde » Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:17 pm

Is Nunn coming back this year?
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Post#1469 » by falcolombardi » Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:06 pm

Read on Twitter
?t=6JfhkWUbQcmwFd-wG3hpfg&s=19

attently:the kind of people who evaluate players by scoring averages which is totally not a stat
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Post#1470 » by trickshot » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:38 am

falcolombardi wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=6JfhkWUbQcmwFd-wG3hpfg&s=19

attently:the kind of people who evaluate players by scoring averages which is totally not a stat

The responder is an idiot because Curry and Lebron are two guys whose impact can most of all not be quantified in numbers. And i hate to use this copout term but Curry's "gravity" and Lebron's game management aren't in the stat sheet. Once again proving most Lebron critics don't actually know what he's good at.

Lebron would drop 40 while regulating the tempo of an offense for an entire quarter. The reason Warriors couldn't run the score up on the Cavs in 16 was level headed game management, all season other pgs would run down the floor and immediately try to claw points back unintentionally starting a shootout. Till today I believe intangibles won that series. Game 6 was the greatest display of floor management I've ever seen. Lebron ball as they put it has some huge perks.
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1471 » by zimpy27 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:17 am

What do you guys think of a Schroder+TT addition in buyouts?

Schroder, Monk, THT, LeBron, Davis
Westbrook, Reaves, Johnson/Ariza, Melo, TT

I think they'd upgrade the weak POA and OREBs. Might help quite a bit.
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Post#1472 » by falcolombardi » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:20 am

zimpy27 wrote:What do you guys think of a Schroder+TT addition in buyouts?

Schroder, Monk, THT, LeBron, Davis
Westbrook, Reaves, Johnson/Ariza, Melo, TT

I think they'd upgrade the weak POA and OREBs. Might help quite a bit.


any help is good tbh, this teams any playoffs playable rotstion guy they can find
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Post#1473 » by falcolombardi » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:27 am

donnieme wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:
Read on Twitter
?t=6JfhkWUbQcmwFd-wG3hpfg&s=19

attently:the kind of people who evaluate players by scoring averages which is totally not a stat

The responder is an idiot because Curry and Lebron are two guys whose impact can most of all not be quantified in numbers. And i hate to use this copout term but Curry's "gravity" and Lebron's game management aren't in the stat sheet. Once again proving most Lebron critics don't actually know what he's good at.

Lebron would drop 40 while regulating the tempo of an offense for an entire quarter. The reason Warriors couldn't run the score up on the Cavs in 16 was level headed game management, all season other pgs would run down the floor and immediately try to claw points back unintentionally starting a shootout. Till today I believe intangibles won that series. Game 6 was the greatest display of floor management I've ever seen. Lebron ball as they put it has some huge perks.


no need to convince me

i have been defending lebron ball and heliocentric stars from literally my first post in this board, specially against the notion that there is a "ceiling" to lebron ball

one of my most controversial opinions is that if curry and lebron switched offensive results amd costars (kyrie and durant years for example) nobody would question curry superiority over lebron offensively, the results would be seen as almost unarguable when curry leads better playoffs results with a much worse co star

i honestly believe to a degree many people dislike the aesthetics of heliocentric ballhandlers like lebron then go backwards from there to reason how the former is limited and inferior to other kind of players they prefer aeathetically
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1474 » by zimpy27 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:48 am

Bulls got TT.. That's poor for the Lakers again. He would have been a good switch PF/C that helped them in their most important area (rebounding).
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Post#1475 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:09 am

Welp.
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Post#1476 » by thebigbird » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:11 am

AD’s done
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Post#1477 » by dcstanley » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:20 am

This season is in the books.. If it wasn't already.
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1478 » by homecourtloss » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:24 am

Time for LeBron to just super chuck now.

This team always has something going on that prevents them from winning. They’re playing good defense, they can’t make open threes like tonight. If you’re not turning the ball over there also not getting any free throws like tonight. If you’re getting good stops, they can’t control the defensive boards. If they do get calls they can’t make free throws. And so on.
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Post#1479 » by letskissbro » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:40 am

X-Ray is negative at least. Guessing a grade 3 sprain
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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1480 » by GSP » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:51 am

Wow just saw the Ad injury SMH.......I dont see how they make it out of the playin if they have to face the Wolves and maybe even Clips to get in. Pelicans a dark horse too and they lost to this Blazers team without Dame/Cj recently and they look better now with the trades

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