2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[Clyde Frazier]

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Interesting. Also never paid enough attention to Adams as a passer. Working out well for Memphis.

[sp6r=underrated]

I have to say rooting hard against the 76ers.

1. I still have anger at the 76ers for the process. We've seen tank jobs before but they had the worst. For them to get a generational player out of not trying shows the NBA has poorly designed aesthetics.

2. Harden is uniquely unlikeable. We've had players with unpleasant aesthetics. Duncan is the most recent example. Fans just found him dull. Harden's genius level understanding of the rulebook makes very for very ugly basketball. We've had players with questionable work ethics. Shaq comes to mind. We've had players who forced their way off teams. Vince comes to mind. We've had players force management to make stupid moves as Harden did with the Paul-Westbrook trade and then not accept blame.

Harden has an ugly games, forced management into bad moves, weak work ethic and has forced his way off two teams. Just uniquely unlikeable as a fan. Not saying he's a bad person.

3. I dislike the cult of the white genius GM which Morey has and aggressively cultivates in the press.

[70sFan]

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Interesting. Also never paid enough attention to Adams as a passer. Working out well for Memphis.

The real MVP finally gets his due!

[70sFan]

Knicks can't stop Embiid in a roll-man role.

[70sFan]

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The great A-Train recognises Joel's talent. Can't even imagine how incredible their duel would be if you transport 1975 Gilmore to 2022.

[Dr Positivity]

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[feyki]

Doncic finished the month with 34,7 PPG, 10,3 RPG, 8,8 APG, %58 TS and 116 ORtg. 36,7 PPG, 7,3 APG, %71,5 TS, 128 ORtg Curry played with in the 2016 February. 43,4 PPG, 4,1 APG, %61 TS and 122 ORtg was by Kobe in the 2006 January.

I don't remember any else right now, Lebron was too efficient in the 2013 February, but his volume was not legendary(137 ORTG!). Dirk was but with May(He was a playoff guy rather than these easy boys ), 28,5 PPG, 13 RPG, 3,5 APG, %63 TS and 128 ORtg and against the 102/103 DRTG Teams. Also, Dirk with one more May on 29,2 PPG, 8,2 RPG, 2,6 APG, %67 TS and 124 ORtg against 105 DRTG Teams.

[Colbinii]

Doncic finished the month with 34,7 PPG, 10,3 RPG, 8,8 APG, %58 TS and 116 ORtg. 36,7 PPG, 7,3 APG, %71,5 TS, 128 ORtg Curry played with in the 2016 February. 43,4 PPG, 4,1 APG, %61 TS and 122 ORtg was by Kobe in the 2006 January.

I don't remember any else right now, Lebron was too efficient in the 2013 February, but his volume was not legendary(137 ORTG!). Dirk was but with May(He was a playoff guy rather than these easy boys ), 28,5 PPG, 13 RPG, 3,5 APG, %63 TS and 128 ORtg and against the 102/103 DRTG Teams. Also, Dirk with one more May on 29,2 PPG, 8,2 RPG, 2,6 APG, %67 TS and 124 ORtg against 105 DRTG Teams.

My favorite stretch may still be Chris Paul in 2015 over the last 15 games of the season.

14-1 record
+18.1 On-Court per game
22.1 Points, 11.1 Assists to 1.9 Turnovers, 4.1 Rebounds, 2.1 Steals
141 ORTG, 66.7 TS%

[CKRT]

I've said it before but now that it's official, playoff game threads with the 76ers are going to be salt mines beyond anything we've seen in recent years

[sp6r=underrated]

I've said it before but now that it's official, playoff game threads with the 76ers are going to be salt mines beyond anything we've seen in recent years

I enjoy Embiid in iso but pairing him with Harden will make for a team that is very tough to watch. Even announcers struggle to make him sound entertaining

[LukaTheGOAT]

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[GSP]

Doncic finished the month with 34,7 PPG, 10,3 RPG, 8,8 APG, %58 TS and 116 ORtg. 36,7 PPG, 7,3 APG, %71,5 TS, 128 ORtg Curry played with in the 2016 February. 43,4 PPG, 4,1 APG, %61 TS and 122 ORtg was by Kobe in the 2006 January.

I don't remember any else right now, Lebron was too efficient in the 2013 February, but his volume was not legendary(137 ORTG!). Dirk was but with May(He was a playoff guy rather than these easy boys ), 28,5 PPG, 13 RPG, 3,5 APG, %63 TS and 128 ORtg and against the 102/103 DRTG Teams. Also, Dirk with one more May on 29,2 PPG, 8,2 RPG, 2,6 APG, %67 TS and 124 ORtg against 105 DRTG Teams.

Bron had a few February runs TBH

14 January Kd 36/6/6 .685ts 131 ortg

[Texas Chuck]

So watching the Mavs come back to beat the Warriors after trailing by 20, my fear about the Warriors came back--they are such a front-running team and Curry in particular does not deal well with adversity and the team follows his lead in that regard. Luka is playing horribly, the Dallas defense is just conceding open layups and 3's all over the place, Warriors build a big lead and then Curry is more interesting in showboating and playing to the crowd. And Kuminga follows suit blowing multiple wide open dunks trying for highlights, careless turnovers, this elite defensive team just stopped competing defensively. And Kerr, who had Looney just causing all kinds of problems for Dallas, benches him down the stretch.

I'm afraid they are going to have this great regular season but as soon as they match up with a good veteran team in the 2nd round(maybe the first?) who aren't intimidated when everything gets rolling that they are much more ripe for an upset than Phoenix or Memphis.

But Curry is the best player on the planet when things are easy. He plays with an ease and confidence and can make you look all kinds of silly. But when it gets harder and the other team fights back, he isn't the same kind of player. He gets careless with the ball, his focus is on all the wrong things, and maybe with Dray back he can offset that so it doesn't infect his lessor teammates, but boy does it now.

[parsnips33]

So watching the Mavs come back to beat the Warriors after trailing by 20, my fear about the Warriors came back--they are such a front-running team and Curry in particular does not deal well with adversity and the team follows his lead in that regard. Luka is playing horribly, the Dallas defense is just conceding open layups and 3's all over the place, Warriors build a big lead and then Curry is more interesting in showboating and playing to the crowd. And Kuminga follows suit blowing multiple wide open dunks trying for highlights, careless turnovers, this elite defensive team just stopped competing defensively. And Kerr, who had Looney just causing all kinds of problems for Dallas, benches him down the stretch.

I'm afraid they are going to have this great regular season but as soon as they match up with a good veteran team in the 2nd round(maybe the first?) who aren't intimidated when everything gets rolling that they are much more ripe for an upset than Phoenix or Memphis.

But Curry is the best player on the planet when things are easy. He plays with an ease and confidence and can make you look all kinds of silly. But when it gets harder and the other team fights back, he isn't the same kind of player. He gets careless with the ball, his focus is on all the wrong things, and maybe with Dray back he can offset that so it doesn't infect his lessor teammates, but boy does it now.

Big part of why Draymond is so important - he's the ultimate "momentum shifter" for us. Not only can he come out of nowhere to blow a play up out of nowhere defensively, but he's also pushing the pace offensively and setting up plays in transition and semi-transition. Just one or two well timed stop into a transition score last night could have totally changed the outcome.

Warriors definitely don't feel bulletproof this year and the number of blown leads has been troubling.

I really want to see what we look like with Draymond and Klay both out there

[Lou Fan]

Can people give me their top 10-20 POY rankings? I haven't been able to follow as much as I would like this season and am curious what people think.

[Doctor MJ]

So watching the Mavs come back to beat the Warriors after trailing by 20, my fear about the Warriors came back--they are such a front-running team and Curry in particular does not deal well with adversity and the team follows his lead in that regard. Luka is playing horribly, the Dallas defense is just conceding open layups and 3's all over the place, Warriors build a big lead and then Curry is more interesting in showboating and playing to the crowd. And Kuminga follows suit blowing multiple wide open dunks trying for highlights, careless turnovers, this elite defensive team just stopped competing defensively. And Kerr, who had Looney just causing all kinds of problems for Dallas, benches him down the stretch.

I'm afraid they are going to have this great regular season but as soon as they match up with a good veteran team in the 2nd round(maybe the first?) who aren't intimidated when everything gets rolling that they are much more ripe for an upset than Phoenix or Memphis.

But Curry is the best player on the planet when things are easy. He plays with an ease and confidence and can make you look all kinds of silly. But when it gets harder and the other team fights back, he isn't the same kind of player. He gets careless with the ball, his focus is on all the wrong things, and maybe with Dray back he can offset that so it doesn't infect his lessor teammates, but boy does it now.

For the record, the Kerr Warriors, when healthy, have fallen behind (2-1 or 3-1) 3 times.
Each time they came back and won the series.

In 2019, the team lost KD against the Rockets and were expected to lose out from there, instead they won, won the next series, and then fought the champs respectably.

I would submit that the perception that Curry fails against adversity doesn't have the track record evidence people have come to think it does.

[Doctor MJ]

Can people give me their top 10-20 POY rankings? I haven't been able to follow as much as I would like this season and am curious what people think.

Let's see, if memory serves I said:

1. LeBron
2. AD
3. Butler
4. Jokic
5. Giannis

[Lou Fan]

Can people give me their top 10-20 POY rankings? I haven't been able to follow as much as I would like this season and am curious what people think.

Let's see, if memory serves I said:

1. LeBron
2. AD
3. Butler
4. Jokic
5. Giannis

Surely Curry is top 5? Also how could Lebron and AD be 1 and 2 with 20 games missed and being 9 in the West? Butler at 3? He's missed 20 games too! I was sure top 3 would be Curry Jokic and Giannis in whatever order.

[Doctor MJ]

Can people give me their top 10-20 POY rankings? I haven't been able to follow as much as I would like this season and am curious what people think.

Let's see, if memory serves I said:

1. LeBron
2. AD
3. Butler
4. Jokic
5. Giannis

Surely Curry is top 5? Also how could Lebron and AD be 1 and 2 with 20 games missed and being 9 in the West? Butler at 3? He's missed 20 games too! I was sure top 3 would be Curry Jokic and Giannis in whatever order.

So first, I think I was confused. I read what you asked and thought it said "19-20 POY rankings. I gave you the Top 5 I voted for that year.

In terms of my players this year, I think my last list was:

1. Jokic
2. Curry
3. Embiid
4. Giannis
5. Paul

Paul's going to fall of course now.

[Dutchball97]

Curry at #2 feels a bit generous with the seasons Giannis and Embiid are having.