(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

letskissbro · Post #1521 » by **letskissbro** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:40 am

Where did this goddamn idiot Ham get the idea that yanking the center from the LeBron only lineups was the way to go? He and Wood had a net rating of like +20 in limited minutes.

RRR3 · Post #1522 » by **RRR3** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:45 am

letskissbro wrote:Where did this goddamn idiot Ham get the idea that yanking the center from the LeBron only lineups was the way to go? He and Wood had a net rating of like +20 in limited minutes.

How dare you call Ham a bad coach??!?!?!?-MyUniBroDavis

Heej · Post #1523 » by **Heej** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:52 am

RRR3 wrote:
letskissbro wrote:Where did this goddamn idiot Ham get the idea that yanking the center from the LeBron only lineups was the way to go? He and Wood had a net rating of like +20 in limited minutes.

How dare you call Ham a bad coach??!?!?!?-MyUniBroDavis

Nahhhhh as a Darvin Hamas apologist even I can't defend this ****. Not being able to find minutes for Wood after calling and recruiting him everyday is crazy

RRR3 · Post #1524 » by **RRR3** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:58 am

Heej wrote:
RRR3 wrote:
letskissbro wrote:Where did this goddamn idiot Ham get the idea that yanking the center from the LeBron only lineups was the way to go? He and Wood had a net rating of like +20 in limited minutes.

How dare you call Ham a bad coach??!?!?!?-MyUniBroDavis

Nahhhhh as a Darvin Hamas apologist even I can't defend this ****. Not being able to find minutes for Wood after calling and recruiting him everyday is crazy

As much as I criticize Ham, I am somewhat sympathetic to him because I believe some of his foolish habits were taught to him by Budenholzer. While I think Ham should be able to figure out Budenholzer was wrong about these things, maybe he looked up to him. I do think he should be fired if this team wants to contend though.

Colbinii · Post #1525 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:04 am

RRR3 is like a joke account, right?

Greatness · Post #1526 » by **Greatness** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:05 am

This team sucks

Heej · Post #1527 » by **Heej** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:11 am

RRR3 wrote:
Heej wrote:
RRR3 wrote:How dare you call Ham a bad coach??!?!?!?-MyUniBroDavis

Nahhhhh as a Darvin Hamas apologist even I can't defend this ****. Not being able to find minutes for Wood after calling and recruiting him everyday is crazy

As much as I criticize Ham, I am somewhat sympathetic to him because I believe some of his foolish habits were taught to him by Budenholzer. While I think Ham should be able to figure out Budenholzer was wrong about these things, maybe he looked up to him. I do think he should be fired if this team wants to contend though.

Completely agree. I guess it's the same thing as learning martial arts from a school haha. You end up taking on your sensei's style in a sense. I'm sure he's probably close to average as a coach, which probably isn't good enough to win a chip with the lack of talent on this team.

I just don't think you can replace him unless you create a super team with Stotts and every other failed head coach as his assistants lol. No one else to get.

This team's energy is so rancid tho. I haven't had this little joy watching a LeBron team since early 14-15 and early 17-18

Post #1528 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:33 am

Christ this team is an eyesore to watch at times. That last turnover from LeBron just sums up the game.

homecourtloss · Post #1529 » by **homecourtloss** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:56 am

letskissbro wrote:Where did this goddamn idiot Ham get the idea that yanking the center from the LeBron only lineups was the way to go? He and Wood had a net rating of like +20 in limited minutes.

Zero explanation for it other than they got into a fight.

Bulls are 15-30 from three, the lakers 10-34. That’s the entire game right there.

DLo once again disappeared and Drummond is making FTs and jumpers :lol:

Lakers have a post title hangover and the parts don’t fit. Imagine Caruso on this team.

rk2023 · Post #1530 » by **rk2023** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:59 am

homecourtloss wrote:
letskissbro wrote:Where did this goddamn idiot Ham get the idea that yanking the center from the LeBron only lineups was the way to go? He and Wood had a net rating of like +20 in limited minutes.

Zero explanation for it other than they got into a fight.

Bulls are 15-30 from three, the lakers 10-34. That’s the entire game right there.

DLo once again disappeared and Drummond is making FTs and jumpers

Lakers have a post title hangover and the parts don’t fit. Imagine Caruso on this team.

At this point it’s worth consolidating with a trade.

homecourtloss · Post #1531 » by **homecourtloss** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:09 am

Other than one or two games outside of the IST, this is pretty much every game they’ve played—get into a deficit in the first quarter, make a run to get back but then it takes up energy, give up open threes and the other team doesn’t miss, can’t make open threes, miss FTs, weird lineups, team expends energy, but to no avail.

Heej · Post #1532 » by **Heej** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:14 am

homecourtloss wrote:Other than one or two games outside of the IST, this is pretty much every game they’ve played—get into a deficit in the first quarter, make a run to get back but then it takes up energy, give up open threes and the other team doesn’t miss, can’t make open threes, miss FTs, weird lineups, team expends energy, but to no avail.

I don't understand the lackluster starts lol. Starting to think these guys are checked out on Ham or from the trade rumors. Either way it's probably all LeBron's fault. He's the reason they start slow AND the reason people are in trade talks cuz he's the GOAT.

AEnigma · Post #1533 » by **AEnigma** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:15 am

homecourtloss wrote:Lakers have a post title hangover and the parts don’t fit.

Going on year 4 of this.

Imagine Caruso on this team.

Going on year 3 of this. :lol:

Tracymcgoaty · Post #1534 » by **Tracymcgoaty** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:31 am

The logical thing would be to trade him. Seriously. Thank you for the Chip but it's clear this team isn't good enough, this isn't 2020 where Lebron can carry the load. Team has glaring holes and Lebron is too old for us to overcome the holes we have.

Lebron is still a top 10 player in this league. Any other competent team he'd be well rested for the playoffs. Not on this team. It's a toxic relationship at this point. The more games we lose and ooooooh we're losing a lot. The more obvious it will become. It's already noticeable. The constant unforced errors because he's fed up.

I feel really bad for him and AD. Because outside of AR who i feel really bad for as well. They've got nobody who actively contributes on the offensive end.

tone wone · Post #1535 » by **tone wone** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:33 am

Lebron sold his soul for all that shooting those Cavs teams had. Now the devil has spent the last 5 and a half years collecting.

rk2023 · Post #1536 » by **rk2023** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:38 am

RE: the offense conversation I saw Empirefalls and a few others in.

I haven’t checked Synergy but I could only imagine the Lakers transition offense is terrible in aggregate. Sure looked the case tonight, and I’d also guess their TOV% is gaudy here and a big cause of inefficiency. On film and in real time, anything that’s not run through James on that end (even some possessions he’s involved in) just look flat out uncoordinated with guys on flat out different pages.

As for the Halfcourt, I do remember them being top 10 here a week ago - though I’m unsure what this looks like now. Same point HCL has made regarding their 3P efficiency (lack thereof much rather) holds true; they got mauled in this department by Chicago tonight, and that’s the game lol.

nzahir · Post #1537 » by **nzahir** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:01 am

OMFG I forgot we had a game and I see were dying to Chicago....

This team needs to make some **** moves

I can see Ham getting canned, but I can also see Jeanie not wanting to shell our more $$

Not a lot of great options out there. Vogel was probably better than Ham, but him and Russ didnt mesh

The Russ trade comes back to kill this team with its coaching and by losing guys like KCP and Caruso

THe poor play as of recent and especially from Dlo is making me pretty on board with Lavine at this point

Dlo, Rui, one of JHS, 2029 1st or a pick swap

Lavine, Prince, Cam/Vando, Lebron, AD
Vincent, Reaves, Cam/Vando, Wood, Hayes

Can also start Vincent

I would then use the remaining assets (Christie, 1st/JHS/, pick swap, 2nds) to upgrade the backup C spot and look at other forward options or guard options (a bigger guard than Vincent would help).

The issue with the Lavine deal is can Lavine and Reaves even close together?

May be an issue defensively and I dont think its great if a 40m guy is closing games on the bench, at least you can justify it with Dlo at 17m

nzahir · Post #1538 » by **nzahir** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:02 am

tone wone wrote:Lebron sold his soul for all that shooting those Cavs teams had. Now the devil has spent the last 5 and a half years collecting.

Sadly they got hurt in 2015 and then KD joined GS or Lebron has 1-3 more rings right now

Sigh :nonono:

Post #1539 » by **zimpy27** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:20 am

Lakers giving away Caruso for free never stops being painful

tone wone · Post #1540 » by **tone wone** » Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:23 am

rk2023 wrote:RE: the offense conversation I saw Empirefalls and a few others in.

I haven’t checked Synergy but I could only imagine the Lakers transition offense is terrible in aggregate. Sure looked the case tonight, and I’d also guess their TOV% is gaudy here and a big cause of inefficiency. On film and in real time, anything that’s not run through James on that end (even some possessions he’s involved in) just look flat out uncoordinated with guys on flat out different pages.

As for the Halfcourt, I do remember them being top 10 here a week ago - though I’m unsure what this looks like now. Same point HCL has made regarding their 3P efficiency (lack thereof much rather) holds true; they got mauled in this department by Chicago tonight, and that’s the game lol.

For what it's worth NBA.com has them around 19th ppp in transition. They shoot well but are lousy with turnovers. Honestly, that sounds about right.

Just way too much Reddish and Prince offensively. It just highlights the problem with the roster. The only guys defenses remotely respect are Reaves and D'lo but they can't play together because of how horrible the poa defense is. So you put a offensive zero on the floor and now you're stuck having to work twice as hard as your opponent to generate the shots that you want. D'lo barely looked at the rim and result was Reddish taking 14 shots.

I'm really starting to believe that AD and Lebron aren't shooting nearly enough. That they really need to start sacrificing efficiency for volume. They're surrounded by guys who can not be trusted with the easiest shots in the league.