The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1)

colts18 · Post #1541 » by **colts18** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 8:20 pm

Paging Sideshowbob

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kpelton/status/715375818885570560[/tweet]

The Warriors have surpassed LeBron as the new kings of clutch.

Post #1542 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 8:28 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
PCProductions wrote:Avoiding trading Klay for Love was a brilliant decision, though. I would have done it at the time, and I'm super glad they didn't.

Part of what's so frustrating about the quotes, as opposed to amusing, is that the Warriors really do deserve a ton of praise, and the owner is part of that. This isn't Vivek insisting on his own genius as the whole world can see he's in the process of burning down the house.

The issue here really, aside from the taunting of other franchises, is that the success has everything to do with the right decisions being made by the people who work underneath Lacob...and those people - like Myers, West, and Kerr - would be quick to tell you where they got lucky, and where things easily could have gone another way. THEY understand that this stuff is tough, their boss does not.

Yeah, I meant to mention Myers specifically in my post above. Zach Lowe had him on his podcast a few weeks ago, and it was a pretty interesting listen. They get into a lot of the day to day stuff, and just his experience building the team, decisions made, etc.

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=14958214

GSP · Post #1543 » by **GSP** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 8:40 pm

colts18 wrote:Paging Sideshowbob

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kpelton/status/715375818885570560[/tweet]

The Warriors have surpassed LeBron as the new kings of clutch.

Not surprising with that death lineup.... I wonder where this years Spurs rank? Theyve had a couple bad losses in the clutch that i can remember but they usually trot out some incredibly diverse matchup lineups down the stretch

The-Power · Post #1544 » by **The-Power** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 9:03 pm

GSP wrote:
Not surprising with that death lineup.... I wonder where this years Spurs rank? Theyve had a couple bad losses in the clutch that i can remember but they usually trot out some incredibly diverse matchup lineups down the stretch

I'm not sure which numbers they used, as the ClutchSplits on stats.nba.com for 'Last 5 Min <= 5 Pts' have the Warriors NetRtg at 53.6 (56 Min, 18 Games) and the Jazz game cannot be the reason given their NetRtg in the 7 Min was 'only' 30.6, i.e. below average. Anyway, the Spurs have - using the same clutch split - a NetRtg of -3.0. Not exactly impressive but what is indeed impressive: they only played 33 such minutes (10 Games) over the course of the entire season!

LA Bird · Post #1545 » by **LA Bird** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 9:11 pm

GSP wrote:
colts18 wrote:Paging Sideshowbob

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kpelton/status/715375818885570560[/tweet]

The Warriors have surpassed LeBron as the new kings of clutch.

Not surprising with that death lineup.... I wonder where this years Spurs rank? Theyve had a couple bad losses in the clutch that i can remember but they usually trot out some incredibly diverse matchup lineups down the stretch

Clutch Net Rating (Before New Year)
+45.1 Warriors
+17.6 Cavaliers
+2.2 Thunder
-3.6 Spurs

Clutch Net Rating (After New Year)
+50.3 Spurs
+46.5 Warriors
-8.6 Thunder
-10.0 Cavaliers

Clutch Net Rating (Overall)
+46.1 Warriors (+46.7 was before the Jazz game)
+21.4 Spurs
+5.4 Cavaliers
-3.3 Thunder

Spurs started off poorly but they have actually been even more clutch than the Warriors in the last few months.

Post #1546 » by **Doctor MJ** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 9:14 pm

GSP wrote:
colts18 wrote:Paging Sideshowbob

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kpelton/status/715375818885570560[/tweet]

The Warriors have surpassed LeBron as the new kings of clutch.

Not surprising with that death lineup.... I wonder where this years Spurs rank? Theyve had a couple bad losses in the clutch that i can remember but they usually trot out some incredibly diverse matchup lineups down the stretch

Here's the NBA's page:

http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/clutch/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1

Some key teams to look at:

1. Golden State +46.1
2. San Antonio +21.4
3. Dallas +15.7
4. Memphis +15.3
5. Charlotte +15.1
10. Clippers +7.5
11. Cleveland +5.4
15. Oklahoma City -3.3

In general, I tend to love seeing this stuff as it feels like a kind of "how good are they really?" metric, but it's tough because teams tend to vary wildly from year to year, and those '08-09 Cavs as godlike as they looked, it doesn't seem in retrospect to foretell even greater playoff domination given their upset loss.

The-Power · Post #1547 » by **The-Power** » Fri Apr 1, 2016 9:34 pm

Okay, looking at the sortable team stats section was too easy for me I guess.

Any idea why the stats are so different from those I posed, gathered from the team sites (Stats -> Advanced -> ClutchSplits)? It also says last 5 minutes, 5 points or less differential and the respective site seems to be up-to-date as the number of overall games shown at the top is correct. Am I missing something obvious?

JulesWinnfield · Post #1548 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 12:42 am

I'm assuming tonight they can join the 96 Bulls in at least one respect already... The only teams to ever be 62 games over .500. (Or at least 62 more wins than losses, to be more accurate). No one has obviously ever been 63 over. Unlesss I'm missing something.....

toodles23 · Post #1549 » by **toodles23** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 3:38 am

7 first half turnovers from Curry.

ronnymac2 · Post #1550 » by **ronnymac2** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 3:42 am

Warriors look like they want to win it in the fourth quarter.

They probably can.

SideshowBob · Post #1551 » by **SideshowBob** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 4:22 am

lol

Please break the 3P record tonight

ronnymac2 · Post #1552 » by **ronnymac2** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 4:25 am

Even with Curry going supernova this quarter, Celtics are right there. This Boston team is beautifully built sans major top-end talent, and they match up really well with Golden State. IT was sick that quarter, too.

Curry was fun though.

toodles23 · Post #1553 » by **toodles23** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 4:31 am

As an NBA fan, I'd be really annoyed if the Warriors blew the perfect home record this late in the season. The '96 Bulls were undefeated at home until they lost game #40 though, so this isn't the latest in a season a team has ever stayed perfect at home.

On another note, Varejao has been awful. -19.1 on/off per 100 as a Warrior, yeesh.

MisterHibachi · Post #1554 » by **MisterHibachi** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 4:34 am

toodles23 wrote:As an NBA fan, I'd be really annoyed if the Warriors blew the perfect home record this late in the season. The '96 Bulls were undefeated at home until they lost game #40 though, so this isn't the latest in a season a team has ever stayed perfect at home.

Are you sure that's right? Saw a few headlines about the Spurs having the best home record to "start" a season, meaning the Bulls were worse than 38-0.

edit: yup, the Bulls lost to the Hornets in their 75th game.

toodles23 · Post #1555 » by **toodles23** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 4:42 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
toodles23 wrote:As an NBA fan, I'd be really annoyed if the Warriors blew the perfect home record this late in the season. The '96 Bulls were undefeated at home until they lost game #40 though, so this isn't the latest in a season a team has ever stayed perfect at home.

Are you sure that's right? Saw a few headlines about the Spurs having the best home record to "start" a season, meaning the Bulls were worse than 38-0.

edit: yup, the Bulls lost to the Hornets in their 75th game.

I don't know why I said 40, it was actually their 38th home game that was their first loss.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199604080CHI.html

So I guess the Spurs beat it.

SideshowBob · Post #1556 » by **SideshowBob** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 5:05 am

36-1 at home, 68-8 overall. Margin of error small now with two remaining games vs. SAS.

ronnymac2 · Post #1557 » by **ronnymac2** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 5:13 am

Great game by Boston. I love IT. He's a mentally tough dude. I hate to say this as a Knicks fans, but Boston's team is really easy to root for. IT, Sullinger, Amir, Bradley, Olynyk...such a sick fit with great coaching.

This is a great opportunity for Golden State to refocus and reorganize their energy. I think Steve Kerr should make sure his team knows they didn't deserve to win and allow them to fully feel the pain of a game that quite frankly had a playoff atmosphere in the second half. Then accept what happened. Then move on to the next game.

I also have to say...Andre Iguodala missing is HUGE. He's the team's fourth best player. They could have used his ball-handling tonight to help mitigate those turnovers, not to mention his great D.

GSP · Post #1558 » by **GSP** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 5:13 am

Seems like the turnover issues of his past have creeped back up without Iggy. Their transition game has suffered alot too cant push the pace as much and Stephs scoring is really missing Iggys presence. His looks and catches off the ball arent anywhere as clean as they were with Iggy handling the basketball.

The-Power · Post #1559 » by **The-Power** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 10:28 am

GSP wrote:Seems like the turnover issues of his past have creeped back up without Iggy.

Yeah, no. This is objectively false and not everything can be attributed to Iggy's absence although I've seen it done countless times recently. Curry played 13 games without Iggy this season prior to the Boston game and averaged exactly 3 turnovers per game. Doesn't like like a turnover issue at all. So let us be reasonable here and treat yesterday as what it was and that's an outlier game.

JulesWinnfield · Post #1560 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Sat Apr 2, 2016 1:59 pm

My earliest NBA memories start in 87/88 season. This is my 29th season watching this league religiously. I have never in my life had an experience as a viewer quite like last night for an early April regular season game. That was just unreal. The atmosphere was crazy. The tone of the crowd, the desperation and a tinge of clear nerves oozing from the court.... When that game ended it almost felt like the Warriors were just upset in a game 7 and were going home for the summer. The reaction shots in the crowd and the faces of shock were something straight out of May or June, not April 1st

I was hoping they would pull it out. The result now only adds more intrigue to this chase and hopefully more nights like last night. That was just spectacular as a fan of the game. I just hope for clarity sake that they either break the record or don't, because tying it at 72-10 would be so anticlimactic to me.