(LOCK THREAD) The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Thread - 40K POINTS+(Part 1)(NO INSULTING)

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Re: The LeBron James - 23-24 Preseason & Regular Season Thread - (Part 1) 

Post#161 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:48 am

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nzahir wrote:Side note: Caruso a +29 in a 1 point win with multiple game winning plays.....damn you Jeanie

Lakers make the WCF a series if they had Caruso instead of Schroeder


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Post#162 » by ardee » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:55 am

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It IS Reaves. Cmon, it's been two games. He was a great third option in the Playoffs last year and he's going to only improve from here.

The thing they need more is a 3&D guard to pair Reaves with i.e. Caruso.

Ehh, to me he's a secondary playmaker, not the guy who constantly runs the offense

Probably true, but Dlo isn't a #1 either and for some reason we are taking the ball more out of Bron and Reaves' hand and giving it more to DLO

I don't trust his decision making fully. Takes some bad shots and last night he literally messed up a 4 on 1 fast break

His defense was actually better it seemed like, but got lost a bit vs Denver (who are just very very tough to defend)

I feel like a Dlo and Rui/Vando (plus some assets, mix of Christie, JHS, first, swaps) for Harden deal could happen if we feel like we dont have enough firepower


Can you play Harden and Reaves together?
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Post#163 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:19 am

ardee wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Ehh, to me he's a secondary playmaker, not the guy who constantly runs the offense

Probably true, but Dlo isn't a #1 either and for some reason we are taking the ball more out of Bron and Reaves' hand and giving it more to DLO

I don't trust his decision making fully. Takes some bad shots and last night he literally messed up a 4 on 1 fast break

His defense was actually better it seemed like, but got lost a bit vs Denver (who are just very very tough to defend)

I feel like a Dlo and Rui/Vando (plus some assets, mix of Christie, JHS, first, swaps) for Harden deal could happen if we feel like we dont have enough firepower


Can you play Harden and Reaves together?


Why wouldn’t you?
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Re: The LeBron James - 23-24 Preseason & Regular Season Thread - (Part 1) 

Post#164 » by thebigbird » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:16 pm

The difference in Bron’s burst and athleticism between the end of last season and the first two games of this season is crazy. And some people tried claiming the foot was just an excuse. Excited to see what he looks like in a couple months as it takes him a while to ramp up at this stage of his career.
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Post#165 » by Heej » Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:38 pm

ardee wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Ehh, to me he's a secondary playmaker, not the guy who constantly runs the offense

Probably true, but Dlo isn't a #1 either and for some reason we are taking the ball more out of Bron and Reaves' hand and giving it more to DLO

I don't trust his decision making fully. Takes some bad shots and last night he literally messed up a 4 on 1 fast break

His defense was actually better it seemed like, but got lost a bit vs Denver (who are just very very tough to defend)

I feel like a Dlo and Rui/Vando (plus some assets, mix of Christie, JHS, first, swaps) for Harden deal could happen if we feel like we dont have enough firepower


Can you play Harden and Reaves together?

At least you can only target one person at a time on defense :rofl:

Is it even remotely possible to get that guy lol
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Re: The LeBron James - 23-24 Preseason & Regular Season Thread - (Part 1) 

Post#166 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:13 pm

Heej wrote:
ardee wrote:
nzahir wrote:Probably true, but Dlo isn't a #1 either and for some reason we are taking the ball more out of Bron and Reaves' hand and giving it more to DLO

I don't trust his decision making fully. Takes some bad shots and last night he literally messed up a 4 on 1 fast break

His defense was actually better it seemed like, but got lost a bit vs Denver (who are just very very tough to defend)

I feel like a Dlo and Rui/Vando (plus some assets, mix of Christie, JHS, first, swaps) for Harden deal could happen if we feel like we dont have enough firepower


Can you play Harden and Reaves together?

At least you can only target one person at a time on defense :rofl:

Is it even remotely possible to get that guy lol


I mean damn Terrence Mann seems to be the prize for him rn lol
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Post#167 » by nzahir » Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:39 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Heej wrote:
ardee wrote:
Can you play Harden and Reaves together?

At least you can only target one person at a time on defense :rofl:

Is it even remotely possible to get that guy lol


I mean damn Terrence Mann seems to be the prize for him rn lol

Harden's defense when he wants to be locked in isn't awful, he has good hands, strong in the post and good awareness at times (but can also get lost off ball). His main issue is effort and has gotten slower on the perimeter




Harden obviously doesn't solve the defense issue, but he is still one of the best iso players in the league

Deal would need to be Dlo and Rui likely plus 1-2 of Christie, JHS, 1st, swap

Harden, Reaves, Vando, Bron, AD
Vincent, Christie/Cam?, Prince, Wood, Hayes

Maybe 1 of Harden or Reaves come off the bench to juice the bench?
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Post#168 » by Heej » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:17 pm

nzahir wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Heej wrote:At least you can only target one person at a time on defense :rofl:

Is it even remotely possible to get that guy lol


I mean damn Terrence Mann seems to be the prize for him rn lol

Harden's defense when he wants to be locked in isn't awful, he has good hands, strong in the post and good awareness at times (but can also get lost off ball). His main issue is effort and has gotten slower on the perimeter




Harden obviously doesn't solve the defense issue, but he is still one of the best iso players in the league

Deal would need to be Dlo and Rui likely plus 1-2 of Christie, JHS, 1st, swap

Harden, Reaves, Vando, Bron, AD
Vincent, Christie/Cam?, Prince, Wood, Hayes

Maybe 1 of Harden or Reaves come off the bench to juice the bench?

For sure, being a former superstar he's got elite fluidity and predictive skills. But it's help defense that matters the most at the end of the day. Bumping down so the bigs can rotate over to contest and spraying back out to shooters, that kinda stuff. Unfortunately motor is what matters the most there. I do agree that you can't go at Harden as easily as you can go at Reaves tho, so I definitely under-credited him.

I just know there's always a LeBron x Lakers tax that'll be involved when it comes to trades. People don't wanna help LeBron or the Lakers. I'm not sure the trade package that'll be required for Harden is worth gutting depth that'll be sorely needed in the playoffs. Idk man the Russell Westbrook trade may have been the death knell for LeBron's career. They're always gonna be a major piece short because of it.
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Post#169 » by nzahir » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:27 pm

Heej wrote:
nzahir wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
I mean damn Terrence Mann seems to be the prize for him rn lol

Harden's defense when he wants to be locked in isn't awful, he has good hands, strong in the post and good awareness at times (but can also get lost off ball). His main issue is effort and has gotten slower on the perimeter




Harden obviously doesn't solve the defense issue, but he is still one of the best iso players in the league

Deal would need to be Dlo and Rui likely plus 1-2 of Christie, JHS, 1st, swap

Harden, Reaves, Vando, Bron, AD
Vincent, Christie/Cam?, Prince, Wood, Hayes

Maybe 1 of Harden or Reaves come off the bench to juice the bench?

For sure, being a former superstar he's got elite fluidity and predictive skills. But it's help defense that matters the most at the end of the day. Bumping down so the bigs can rotate over to contest and spraying back out to shooters, that kinda stuff. Unfortunately motor is what matters the most there. I do agree that you can't go at Harden as easily as you can go at Reaves tho, so I definitely under-credited him.

I just know there's always a LeBron x Lakers tax that'll be involved when it comes to trades. People don't wanna help LeBron or the Lakers. I'm not sure the trade package that'll be required for Harden is worth gutting depth that'll be sorely needed in the playoffs. Idk man the Russell Westbrook trade may have been the death knell for LeBron's career. They're always gonna be a major piece short because of it.

Also losing Caruso for nothing...

The biggest issue was the Lebron and AD injuries in 2021, felt like we could have won it that year again

We had the bodies to throw at Giannis with Gasol, AD, Bron, and Kuzma

And for the playoffs we need higher end talent, depth isn't as important. Its obviously important to get there in 1 piece and you need some depth, but you rather be Denver with high end talent than a team with 10-12 guys but not as much high end talent

I am interested to see how we play the first 10-20 games then see what makes sense
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Post#170 » by Heej » Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:02 pm

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Post#171 » by zimpy27 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:05 pm

ardee wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Ehh, to me he's a secondary playmaker, not the guy who constantly runs the offense

Probably true, but Dlo isn't a #1 either and for some reason we are taking the ball more out of Bron and Reaves' hand and giving it more to DLO

I don't trust his decision making fully. Takes some bad shots and last night he literally messed up a 4 on 1 fast break

His defense was actually better it seemed like, but got lost a bit vs Denver (who are just very very tough to defend)

I feel like a Dlo and Rui/Vando (plus some assets, mix of Christie, JHS, first, swaps) for Harden deal could happen if we feel like we dont have enough firepower


Can you play Harden and Reaves together?


Lakers probably need to trade DLo+Reaves to get Harden tbh
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Post#172 » by zimpy27 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:55 pm

But of a crazy idea here:


DLo+Rui for Simmons

Simmons, Reaves, LeBron, Wood, Davis
Vincent, Christie, Prince, Vando, Hayes
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Post#173 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:20 am

zimpy27 wrote:
ardee wrote:
nzahir wrote:Probably true, but Dlo isn't a #1 either and for some reason we are taking the ball more out of Bron and Reaves' hand and giving it more to DLO

I don't trust his decision making fully. Takes some bad shots and last night he literally messed up a 4 on 1 fast break

His defense was actually better it seemed like, but got lost a bit vs Denver (who are just very very tough to defend)

I feel like a Dlo and Rui/Vando (plus some assets, mix of Christie, JHS, first, swaps) for Harden deal could happen if we feel like we dont have enough firepower


Can you play Harden and Reaves together?


Lakers probably need to trade DLo+Reaves to get Harden tbh


What picks can we trade? That probably matters more with what the Clippers could get him for
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Post#174 » by rk2023 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:02 pm

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Post#175 » by Heej » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:21 am

Honestly I'm convinced now that DLo's court vision is incredibly overrated. He misses wayyy too many cutters and openings for the high level passer he's purported to be
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Post#176 » by homecourtloss » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:40 am

Is Wood injured? Lakers have had the best sequences with LeBron/wood in the game, but Jaxson Hayes comes in in front of him. Also, looks like Ham really has Cam reddish playing in front of Max Christie, and in the rotation; Reddish is a replacement level player who does not do a single thing well in the context of team basketball.
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Post#177 » by RRR3 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:43 am

homecourtloss wrote:Is Wood injured? Lakers have had the best sequences with LeBron/wood in the game, but Jaxson Hayes comes in in front of him. Also, looks like Ham really has Cam reddish playing in front of Max Christie, and in the rotation; Reddish is a replacement level player who does not do a single thing well in the context of team basketball.

The Lakers have been incompetently run for over a decade.
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Post#178 » by Heej » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:45 am

Nah there's a stench about this Lakers team right now. They shouldn't be looking this outmatched. I've seen this movie before. 100% chance they make deadline trades this season. There's no excuse for them to look this weird with a training camp and continuity under their belt
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Post#179 » by RRR3 » Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:46 am

They looked really good at the end of last season and in the playoffs for the most part. So there really shouldn't be an issue.
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Post#180 » by dcstanley » Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:12 am

All the guys they paid in the offseason look horrible. The POA defense is also embarrassing.

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