The LeBron Thread 2021 Off-Season Edition

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Re: The LeBron Thread 2021 Off-Season Edition 

Post#1601 » by nzahir » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:11 am

falcolombardi wrote:lakers are by far the biggest moneymaker team in basketball, literslly a money printer for the buss family and a bif part of their brand is winning so much more than anyone else (post merger which is when basketball got really big they are way ahead of others)

not going all in in a short window to get ring #18 and finally be ice celtics in total championships is negligence

championship is when you are supposed to pay as much as needed, you can ease on the payroll/tax when lebron retires and the team is rebuild

i buy the money excuse to a extent for a smaller team and city, not for the freaking lakers

My thoughts exactly

But if it wasn't money and the FO doesn't think AC is good....that is arguably even worse

Just means they dont really use analytics or watch film

Without Bron, AD< and Klutch, the Lakers are NOTHING rn and they would still be ****

Lebron saved them by coming alone in 2018
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Post#1602 » by nzahir » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:12 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:
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I hear Marcus Smart’s available…

Don’t see it as AC was cheaper

That dinwiddie trade was it? No Dennis?

Wth is gona happen to him lol

Seems like hell get the mle elsewhere and that’s it, right?


Yes Caruso was cheaper but they couldn’t SIGN Caruso due to legit no more money; a S&T of Schroder to Boston is completely disconnected from that.

WRONG

Had his bird rights

We didnt want to pay up
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Post#1603 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:14 am

nzahir wrote:
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nzahir wrote:Don’t see it as AC was cheaper

That dinwiddie trade was it? No Dennis?

Wth is gona happen to him lol

Seems like hell get the mle elsewhere and that’s it, right?


Yes Caruso was cheaper but they couldn’t SIGN Caruso due to legit no more money; a S&T of Schroder to Boston is completely disconnected from that.

WRONG

Had his bird rights

We didnt want to pay up


…that’s what I’m saying. Perhaps I didn’t word it right.
“Due to legit no more money” implied heavy tax, not that we legally couldn’t.
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Post#1604 » by The Master » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:14 am

falcolombardi wrote:i buy the money excuse to a extent for a smaller team and city, not for the freaking lakers

Lakers next year will probably pay the 2nd/3rd-highest luxury tax bill in the history (only because Nets and Warriors will exceed that).

I'm not defending it per se, because I don't care about billionaires' well-being to be honest, you can argue that both Warriors and Nets will pay more, so Lakers should as well. But yeah, I can understand why you take Kent Bazemore on a minimum over Alex Caruso + additional 65 mln of tax bill in next two years, lol, even if I don't like it.
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Post#1605 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:15 am

nzahir wrote:Ramona Shelburne: “Caruso was willing to go back for 3 years 30 million dollars. He gave them that option… the Lakers were willing to go 7 million a year.”

I’m going to lose my **** mind over this

We did him dirtyyy

Surprised Bron and Vogel didn’t step up


Ouch this one hurts.
And you saying Bron and Vogel didn’t step up implies they’re the ones taking the major tax hit. They’re not.
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Post#1606 » by falcolombardi » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:04 am

i am not a fan of blaming star players for signings

whether they pressure or influence decisións, the ones that ink the deal are ownership

if a gm cannot convince owners or star players on what is the best signing for a team then he is the main one at fault
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Post#1607 » by Kingdibs19 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 3:35 am

Caruso stopped THT from shining. Right move letting him walk.
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Post#1608 » by zimpy27 » Thu Aug 5, 2021 5:10 am

nzahir wrote:
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nzahir wrote:True, but we opted not to

We even gave up our 2nds

This was awful...

I don’t get why, the wiz didn’t do us a favor in 2019. We had to compensate them

Guess this is the team

My only hope is we can steal DG for the minimum


Yeah Lakers got bent over in that trade. Had a lot of leverage and used none of it

Actually wiz had 2 2024s, so I think we get one, but idk

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Post#1609 » by GSP » Thu Aug 5, 2021 6:00 am

Read on Twitter


Dont think Danny even considered La. Those neckbeards sending out death threats was too much.
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Post#1610 » by Mos_Heat » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:10 am

The Master wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:i buy the money excuse to a extent for a smaller team and city, not for the freaking lakers

Lakers next year will probably pay the 2nd/3rd-highest luxury tax bill in the history (only because Nets and Warriors will exceed that).

I'm not defending it per se, because I don't care about billionaires' well-being to be honest, you can argue that both Warriors and Nets will pay more, so Lakers should as well. But yeah, I can understand why you take Kent Bazemore on a minimum over Alex Caruso + additional 65 mln of tax bill in next two years, lol, even if I don't like it.

Repeater tax kicks in only if you are over the luxury tax in 3 of the previous 4 seasons, so they will have another non repeater season in 22-23
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Post#1611 » by Fadeaway_J » Thu Aug 5, 2021 11:21 am

GSP wrote:
Read on Twitter


Dont think Danny even considered La. Those neckbeards sending out death threats was too much.

Always felt like that was a complete pipe dream even before the Lakers used the TPMLE.
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Post#1612 » by falcolombardi » Thu Aug 5, 2021 1:29 pm

the Olympics game is giving me deja vus

is weird to see the usual criticism of "not taking a contested hero jumper and instead passing to a open teammate who misses" being applied to doncic now

is tough for those who are not hero ball chukers, if they make a good/right play that is not taking a jumper fadeaway buzzer beater then they just dont have "it" or spot up shooters saved their legacies

skip bayless is gonna make doncic his new target when lebron retires, guaranteed
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Post#1613 » by ShotCreator » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:51 pm

LAL deciding to destroy their roster after one injury riddled season is strange.


LeBron really did it this time. I really don’t believe they’d beat Phoenix even if perfectly healthy.

Utah either really. Lol. It’s amazing a multi billion dollar organization can be this incompetent with so much information and resources to not be
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Post#1614 » by ShotCreator » Thu Aug 5, 2021 2:55 pm

Nunn and Monk at least have youth. As trash as they’ve been. They could have peak years in comfortable schemes. Maybe these are Vogel/Scouting moves.

If Jordan Clarkson could become a legit good player in Utah, a lot of guys can have turnarounds.


Westbrook and Melo though, just lol.
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Post#1615 » by McBubbles » Thu Aug 5, 2021 5:55 pm

ShotCreator wrote:LAL deciding to destroy their roster after one injury riddled season is strange.


LeBron really did it this time. I really don’t believe they’d beat Phoenix even if perfectly healthy.

Utah either really. Lol. It’s amazing a multi billion dollar organization can be this incompetent with so much information and resources to not be


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Post#1616 » by Greyhound » Thu Aug 5, 2021 6:11 pm

I like this team currently as it stands. I’m going to be open minded and give the team a shot.

I like Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony because they are older players who have something to prove.

I suspect this team will have very good chemistry and have a very good regular season record. At that point the comedians in here will just disappear into the void as they typically do.

———-

From the bigger picture standpoint, I don’t really expect anything more from LeBron career wise. At this point, all I am looking forward to are the final totals and milestone accumulations.
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Post#1617 » by ShotCreator » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:12 pm

Greyhound wrote:I like this team currently as it stands. I’m going to be open minded and give the team a shot.

I like Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony because they are older players who have something to prove.

I suspect this team will have very good chemistry and have a very good regular season record. At that point the comedians in here will just disappear into the void as they typically do.

———-

From the bigger picture standpoint, I don’t really expect anything more from LeBron career wise. At this point, all I am looking forward to are the final totals and milestone accumulations.

You realize you are assuming an aberration of like 10 straight years combined of Melo and Westbrook utterly tarnishing lineups and franchise outlooks right?

Carmelo Anthony was bad....5 years ago. You could time travel to Trump’s inauguration, and have a terrible Carmelo Anthony then. But now just add 5 years of wear and tear to that guy.


Westbrook was horribly exploited by LA themselves in 2020. If he was even all star level that series would’ve went the distance. He allowed a on ball spam double scheme to pretty much work unimpeded for four straight games.


It is almost a fact that these guys are bad and certainty that they’ll tank the Lakers.
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Post#1618 » by dcstanley » Thu Aug 5, 2021 7:40 pm

ShotCreator wrote:
Greyhound wrote:I like this team currently as it stands. I’m going to be open minded and give the team a shot.

I like Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony because they are older players who have something to prove.

I suspect this team will have very good chemistry and have a very good regular season record. At that point the comedians in here will just disappear into the void as they typically do.

———-

From the bigger picture standpoint, I don’t really expect anything more from LeBron career wise. At this point, all I am looking forward to are the final totals and milestone accumulations.

You realize you are assuming an aberration of like 10 straight years combined of Melo and Westbrook utterly tarnishing lineups and franchise outlooks right?

Carmelo Anthony was bad....5 years ago. You could time travel to Trump’s inauguration, and have a terrible Carmelo Anthony then. But now just add 5 years of wear and tear to that guy.


Westbrook was horribly exploited by LA themselves in 2020. If he was even all star level that series would’ve went the distance. He allowed a on ball spam double scheme to pretty much work unimpeded for four straight games.

It is almost a fact that these guys are bad and certainty that they’ll tank the Lakers.

Absolutely fair about Westbrook but Melo is not a significant piece. He's likely going to get spot minutes in the playoffs. He won't have the opportunity to tank the Lakers.
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Post#1619 » by Dupp » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:02 pm

ShotCreator wrote:LAL deciding to destroy their roster after one injury riddled season is strange.


LeBron really did it this time. I really don’t believe they’d beat Phoenix even if perfectly healthy.

Utah either really. Lol. It’s amazing a multi billion dollar organization can be this incompetent with so much information and resources to not be


What are you saying here? Sounds like you’re sayings Lakers shouldn’t have shaken up their roster while also saying that roster couldn’t have beaten the Suns.
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Re: The LeBron Thread 2021 Off-Season Edition 

Post#1620 » by Greyhound » Thu Aug 5, 2021 8:18 pm

ShotCreator wrote:
Greyhound wrote:I like this team currently as it stands. I’m going to be open minded and give the team a shot.

I like Westbrook and Carmelo Anthony because they are older players who have something to prove.

I suspect this team will have very good chemistry and have a very good regular season record. At that point the comedians in here will just disappear into the void as they typically do.

———-

From the bigger picture standpoint, I don’t really expect anything more from LeBron career wise. At this point, all I am looking forward to are the final totals and milestone accumulations.

You realize you are assuming an aberration of like 10 straight years combined of Melo and Westbrook utterly tarnishing lineups and franchise outlooks right?

Carmelo Anthony was bad....5 years ago. You could time travel to Trump’s inauguration, and have a terrible Carmelo Anthony then. But now just add 5 years of wear and tear to that guy.


Westbrook was horribly exploited by LA themselves in 2020. If he was even all star level that series would’ve went the distance. He allowed a on ball spam double scheme to pretty much work unimpeded for four straight games.


It is almost a fact that these guys are bad and certainty that they’ll tank the Lakers.

You realize I don’t really care about any of this?

Different roster constructions, lineup combinations, and player utilizations can result in unfamiliar results.

I will be here when this team finishes first or second in the west, will you be?

I will also be here if they miss the playoffs entirely. I know you’ll be here at that point.

The void awaits.
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