2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

cpower · Post #1621 » by **cpower** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:15 am

jalengreen wrote:Wonder when we'll see someone hit 15 3s. Should happen eventually but steph's got the best odds on a given night and who knows how many more good chances he'll get at his age. Could see the record holding for a bit

not happening with Steph as they are literally holding him down the stretch. if you put this Curry in his rookie season he will easily makes 15 threes. It's not about the player its about the defense.

Peregrine01 · Post #1622 » by **Peregrine01** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:08 am

There's nothing that's more of a video game than when Curry gets hot. The whole defense becomes like an elastic band that gets stretched to the point that it snaps.

jalengreen · Post #1623 » by **jalengreen** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:16 am

Oh westbrook..

Peregrine01 · Post #1624 » by **Peregrine01** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:17 am

Christ. That was literally the worst possible finish to such a good game.

AEnigma · Post #1625 » by **AEnigma** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:20 am

NAW doing his cousin an incredible favour.

Was pretty annoyed by the referees all game, but respect that they were willing to make that call against the home team at the end.

jalengreen · Post #1626 » by **jalengreen** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:28 am

AEnigma wrote:NAW doing his cousin an incredible favour.

Was pretty annoyed by the referees all game, but respect that they were willing to make that call against the home team at the end.

I dunno if it was refs or the rulebook on this (had game muted) but I was very confused when that out of bounds play at the end turned into a jump ball which turned into free throws lol

Peregrine01 · Post #1627 » by **Peregrine01** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 5:33 am

Jokic got a taste of the Embiid whistle and immediately put up a 61 pt triple double

Special_Puppy · Post #1628 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 1:38 pm

Jokic and Giannis rotting on non-contenders is awful. I want to see ATGs play deep into the playoffs.

Peregrine01 · Post #1629 » by **Peregrine01** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:10 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:Jokic and Giannis rotting on non-contenders is awful. I want to see ATGs play deep into the playoffs.

There’s a simple solution here staring them in the face.

Peregrine01 · Post #1630 » by **Peregrine01** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:10 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:Jokic and Giannis rotting on non-contenders is awful. I want to see ATGs play deep into the playoffs.

There’s a simple solution here staring them in the face.

RCM88x · Post #1631 » by **RCM88x** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 3:34 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:Jokic and Giannis rotting on non-contenders is awful. I want to see ATGs play deep into the playoffs.

There’s a simple solution here staring them in the face.

Yes, both should request a trade to The Los Angeles Lakers.

jalengreen · Post #1632 » by **jalengreen** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:05 pm

I'd be pretty surprised if Giannis was a Bucks lifer. I believe he's consistently alluded to being open to a move if he felt it was necessary.

Don't think we'll see a Jokic move though

parsnips33 · Post #1633 » by **parsnips33** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:12 pm

Is it a given that the Nuggets are a non-contender? They're still 3rd seed in the West

jalengreen · Post #1634 » by **jalengreen** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:18 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Is it a given that the Nuggets are a non-contender? They're still 3rd seed in the West

Unless you want to be strict and limit contender status to the big 3 (OKC/BOS/CLE), then yeah I think they're definitely a contender. But clearly not among that first tier, and I dunno how many champions entered the postseason without tier 1 contender status. Though I don't think it's a travesty that an ATG player is "only" on a tier 2 contender.

Peregrine01 · Post #1635 » by **Peregrine01** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:18 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Is it a given that the Nuggets are a non-contender? They're still 3rd seed in the West

I think you’d have to use that term very lightly if you were to consider the Nuggets a contender.

AEnigma · Post #1636 » by **AEnigma** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:24 pm

parsnips33 wrote:Is it a given that the Nuggets are a non-contender? They're still 3rd seed in the West

They seem about as much of a contender as the Warriors, Lakers, Clippers… which is to say, not completely unthinkable, but requiring a lot of good fortune and a degree of performance not at all commiserate with what we have seen in the regular season (and without the positive uncertainty we see with that Butler/Curry duo and their now 18-2 record together).

parsnips33 · Post #1637 » by **parsnips33** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:26 pm

Peregrine01 wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Is it a given that the Nuggets are a non-contender? They're still 3rd seed in the West

I think you’d have to use that term very lightly if you were to consider the Nuggets a contender.

Yeah I'm not putting any money on them, but I also wouldn't be shocked if they end up champs again

Maybe not a contender, but also not a non-contender lol

Post #1638 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:31 pm

Until OKC proves it in the playoffs I'm not comfortable just escorting them to the Finals. And unless Boston really has a switch to flip there isn't the impossible task waiting for the Western club.

Absolutely Denver is a contender.

lessthanjake · Post #1639 » by **lessthanjake** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:39 pm

AEnigma wrote:
parsnips33 wrote:Is it a given that the Nuggets are a non-contender? They're still 3rd seed in the West

They seem about as much of a contender as the Warriors, Lakers, Clippers… which is to say, not completely unthinkable, but requiring a lot of good fortune and a degree of performance not at all commiserate with what we have seen in the regular season (and without the positive uncertainty we see with that Butler/Curry duo and their now 18-2 record together).

Yeah, this seems right.

Honestly, I’d probably rather be the Warriors, Lakers, or Clippers than the Nuggets right now, since all of them have some reason to think they could be a lot better than they’ve generally looked most of the year. The Warriors have the fact that they’ve done extremely well with Steph + Butler. The Lakers have the fact that they just got Luka Doncic, which is obviously a really big deal that could potentially lead them to be a great team in the playoffs. The Clippers have the fact that, when they’ve been healthy, they’ve been incredibly good (I think it’s something like a +12.5 net rating in the 20+ games they’ve had all of Kawhi, Harden, Zubac, and Powell.

Meanwhile, I’m not sure what there is to make the Nuggets hopeful that they’ll be better than they’ve looked during the season. Jokic is great, but it’s not realistic to expect him to be significantly better in the playoffs than he’s already been during the season. So what are they really hoping for? I guess maybe that Murray plays above his normal level in the playoffs again? I guess that’s a reason to have a little hope, but it doesn’t strike me as being as much a cause for optimism as those other teams have.

This is also all pretty important because it seems highly unlikely that one of these teams can win the title this year without being *extremely* good in the playoffs. After all, they’ll likely have to get by the Thunder, who look historically great. And, if they do that, there’s likely like a 9 SRS team waiting for them in the Finals. Upsets happen (as well as injuries and teams randomly having dips in form), so maybe it won’t turn out this way, but I think that, for any of these teams to win the title, they’ll probably need to be playing at a *really* high level.

Special_Puppy · Post #1640 » by **Special_Puppy** » Wed Apr 2, 2025 4:52 pm

FWIW I think I'd probably favor the Warriors and Clippers over the Nuggets in a 7-game series