The Lebron Thread - 2018 - 2019 - Pt. 2

[Ooduwa]

How do you not understand why he brought it up?

Because bringing it up was purposeless? Just because other players have disappointed and or failed in the past doesn’t mean we can’t hold LBJ accountable for missing the playoffs this season.

You: "Making the playoffs is a bare minimum expectation for a superstar or GOAT player. Failing in this area is inexcusable."

Reality check: Other GOAT candidates have missed the playoffs, even in the middle of their primes.

You: "IRRELEVANT!!! DEFLECTION!!!!!!!!"

There are two options here: either you're incredibly dense and somehow don't understand why this fact is directly relevant to your first statement, or you do understand why it's relevant but are arguing in bad faith.

You’re assuming I, or no one else has ever criticized the aforementioned players for missing the post season? That’s patently false.

[colts18]

Why are yall giving this troll attention? Just ignore him and he will go away and find another thread that will give him the validation he so desperately wants.

[Ian Scuffling]

A new troll? Fun.

[Ian Scuffling]

Against the West: 29-28, misses the playoffs

Stats without wins are meaningless. This has always been so.

Typing without reason is meaningless. Small sample sizes with major injuries will affect a team record. Don't ya think?

[Ooduwa]

Against the West: 29-28, misses the playoffs

Stats without wins are meaningless. This has always been so.

Typing without reason is meaningless. Small sample sizes with major injuries will affect a team record. Don't ya think?

The Lakers were in playoff contention when LBJ returned from injury. That excuse doesn't hold when you're weighing all the facts.

[Clyde Frazier]

Unless you're all looking for warnings, stop the petty BS back and forth. Many thanks.

[Ian Scuffling]

Against the West: 29-28, misses the playoffs

Stats without wins are meaningless. This has always been so.

Typing without reason is meaningless. Small sample sizes with major injuries will affect a team record. Don't ya think?

The Lakers were in playoff contention when LBJ returned from injury. That excuse doesn't hold when you're weighing all the facts.

Wow, that is about as facile a thought process as one can possess. The team had a ton of injuries outside of James. You have nothing.

[Ooduwa]

Typing without reason is meaningless. Small sample sizes with major injuries will affect a team record. Don't ya think?

The Lakers were in playoff contention when LBJ returned from injury. That excuse doesn't hold when you're weighing all the facts.

Wow, that is about as facile a thought process as one can possess. The team had a ton of injuries outside of James. You have nothing.

The Clippers made the playoffs after losing arguably their best player in the middle of the season. The Spurs made it despite early injury to a starting guard, while also trying to develop chemistry between a roster that was turned upside down by Kawhi’s forced exit.

As I said, when you weigh all the facts, there was no excuse for the LA to be as disappointing as they were.

[Sark]

- Making the playoffs is a bare minimum expectation for a superstar or GOAT player. Failing in this area is inexcusable.

Jordan missed the playoffs on his 14th season, and "got" into the playoffs with a measly 30 wins in 1986 (playing like 6 games or so).
Kareem missed the playoffs at age 28, in the middle of his prime.
Kobe missed the playoffs at age 26, right in the middle of his prime.
Garnett missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.
Olajuwon missed the playoffs at age 29, in his prime.
Chamberlain missed the playoffs in his early prime.
Robertson missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.

That's a weird GOAT list you gotta have.

Jordan is the only name on here that matters. He missed the playoffs twice. Lebron has now missed it 3 times.

[Jaivl]

- Making the playoffs is a bare minimum expectation for a superstar or GOAT player. Failing in this area is inexcusable.

Jordan missed the playoffs on his 14th season, and "got" into the playoffs with a measly 30 wins in 1986 (playing like 6 games or so).
Kareem missed the playoffs at age 28, in the middle of his prime.
Kobe missed the playoffs at age 26, right in the middle of his prime.
Garnett missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.
Olajuwon missed the playoffs at age 29, in his prime.
Chamberlain missed the playoffs in his early prime.
Robertson missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.

That's a weird GOAT list you gotta have.

Jordan is the only name on here that matters. He missed the playoffs twice. Lebron has now missed it 3 times.

Russell missed them 0 times.

nobodytouchesrussell.something.com

[yoyoboy]

- Making the playoffs is a bare minimum expectation for a superstar or GOAT player. Failing in this area is inexcusable.

Jordan missed the playoffs on his 14th season, and "got" into the playoffs with a measly 30 wins in 1986 (playing like 6 games or so).
Kareem missed the playoffs at age 28, in the middle of his prime.
Kobe missed the playoffs at age 26, right in the middle of his prime.
Garnett missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.
Olajuwon missed the playoffs at age 29, in his prime.
Chamberlain missed the playoffs in his early prime.
Robertson missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.

That's a weird GOAT list you gotta have.

Jordan is the only name on here that matters. He missed the playoffs twice. Lebron has now missed it 3 times.

Yeah because Jordan made the playoffs winning 30 games one year, 38 another year, and 40 another year due to the fact that there were 11 teams in the East. His 30 win Bulls team was the 5th worst team by record to ever make the playoffs, only behind teams that played in the 50s or 60s.

[Dupp]

A new troll? Fun.

New name at least

[primopastalove2]

This summer is going to very interesting, with so many FAs available and stars available through trade any team can become a contender overnight. The Lakers pick turning out to being 4th was massive as it put them back in the AD race, and makes their assets more appealing to other teams without the need to empty all the chests of assets. So even if they strikeout out all the marquee FAs and cannot trade for AD, they can still get someone like Jimmy or Khris then trade for beal.

Centre
LeBron
Butler or Middleton
Beal
Lonzo

That's a nice backup option to have, solid core that is good enough to compete,

[Sark]

Jordan missed the playoffs on his 14th season, and "got" into the playoffs with a measly 30 wins in 1986 (playing like 6 games or so).
Kareem missed the playoffs at age 28, in the middle of his prime.
Kobe missed the playoffs at age 26, right in the middle of his prime.
Garnett missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.
Olajuwon missed the playoffs at age 29, in his prime.
Chamberlain missed the playoffs in his early prime.
Robertson missed the playoffs a bunch of times in his prime.

That's a weird GOAT list you gotta have.

Jordan is the only name on here that matters. He missed the playoffs twice. Lebron has now missed it 3 times.

Russell missed them 0 times.

nobodytouchesrussell.something.com

There's already a thread about Russell on this forum. We all know he isn't in the conversation, unless RANGZZZ are your criteria.

This is about MJ and Lebron. Those are the only 2 in the real conversation.

[TheNG]

Jordan is the only name on here that matters. He missed the playoffs twice. Lebron has now missed it 3 times.

Russell missed them 0 times.

nobodytouchesrussell.something.com

There's already a thread about Russell on this forum. We all know he isn't in the conversation, unless RANGZZZ are your criteria.

This is about MJ and Lebron. Those are the only 2 in the real conversation.

That makes sense, we have 4 guys:
A- 11 championships, 5 MVPs
B- 6 championships, 6 MVPs
C- 6 championships, 5 MVPs
D- 3 championships, 4 MVPs
and we should discuss only C and D.
Very reasonable.

[Sark]

Russell missed them 0 times.

nobodytouchesrussell.something.com

There's already a thread about Russell on this forum. We all know he isn't in the conversation, unless RANGZZZ are your criteria.

This is about MJ and Lebron. Those are the only 2 in the real conversation.

That makes sense, we have 4 guys:
A- 11 championships, 5 MVPs
B- 6 championships, 6 MVPs
C- 6 championships, 5 MVPs
D- 3 championships, 4 MVPs
and we should discuss only C and D.
Very reasonable.

When you take context into account, then yea. Lebron and Jordan are the only 2 players that are in contention for GOAT.

[Jaivl]

There's already a thread about Russell on this forum. We all know he isn't in the conversation, unless RANGZZZ are your criteria.

This is about MJ and Lebron. Those are the only 2 in the real conversation.

That makes sense, we have 4 guys:
A- 11 championships, 5 MVPs
B- 6 championships, 6 MVPs
C- 6 championships, 5 MVPs
D- 3 championships, 4 MVPs
and we should discuss only C and D.
Very reasonable.

When you take context into account, then yea. Lebron and Jordan are the only 2 players that are in contention for GOAT.

You're only fooling yourself if you isolate those two to be able to use the "winning" argument for Jordan.

[DatAsh]

Jordan is the only name on here that matters. He missed the playoffs twice. Lebron has now missed it 3 times.

Russell missed them 0 times.

nobodytouchesrussell.something.com

There's already a thread about Russell on this forum. We all know he isn't in the conversation, unless RANGZZZ are your criteria.

This is about MJ and Lebron. Those are the only 2 in the real conversation.

I disagree about Russell not being in the conversation. Maybe not for you, but he is for me, though I have Lebron slightly ahead.

[thebigbird]

Russell missed them 0 times.

nobodytouchesrussell.something.com

There's already a thread about Russell on this forum. We all know he isn't in the conversation, unless RANGZZZ are your criteria.

This is about MJ and Lebron. Those are the only 2 in the real conversation.

Bill Russell wasn't a better basketball player than LeBron. Not even close. Dude would be a better Ben Wallace in today's game.
I disagree about Russell not being in the conversation. Maybe not for you, but he is for me, though I have Lebron slightly ahead.

[Jaivl]

There's already a thread about Russell on this forum. We all know he isn't in the conversation, unless RANGZZZ are your criteria.

This is about MJ and Lebron. Those are the only 2 in the real conversation.

Bill Russell wasn't a better basketball player than LeBron. Not even close. Dude would be a better Ben Wallace in today's game.
I disagree about Russell not being in the conversation. Maybe not for you, but he is for me, though I have Lebron slightly ahead.

Mind you, GOAT does not neccesarily mean "best player".

And 13 years (or more, due to current benefits) of "a better Wallace" (read: a quicker, longer, more intelligent, better on offense) is still hella good, considering Wallace's prime is like 60% as long and he came out #79 on the RealGM top 100.