The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

[trickshot]

should have shipped lebron out.. him staying i knew it wasnt gonna work.. good luck asking bron to sacrifice and take a backseat to luka lol

ill give it a week before the leaks from espn start the "luka bashing" taking unverified sources as gospel, while luka becomes the new scapegoat.. in less than a month just watch the espn plants try and make luka to be the bad guy, calling luka "moody" and "not a team player"

Bro, it's been 2 games. Two games! One defeat against the same team they were up 30 points on 3 days ago. Which of the games did you see to conclude this? The issues have nothing to do with Luka or Lebron or offense or ball dominance or whatever low hanging fruit is being referred to. Luka didn't struggle, they are saran wrapping him while he recovers. Even put him on a minutes restriction. No one is discussing Luka because there simply isn't much to talk about until they feel comfortable enough to have his usage where it should be. In the maintime they are running conventional offense that won them 9 of their last 11 with or without the stars.

The reason they lost is the same reason AD was on National TV asking the GM to sign a 5. It takes too much physical effort to play without one. It would have been nice to have one while Luka gets up to speed. edit; yeah and how could I forget losing their first 3 rotation players off the bench to injury/dnp

[PistolPeteJR]

I don't agree. With teams that have brand new coaches and systems, for example, or things like new key personnel, etc., there are way more games you can read things into. And then there's things like B2Bs, what night of the B2B is it and vs who, was there travel involved, is a player resting, etc. There are quite a few variables, and I think it's not as simple as, "only vs the true contenders".

Of course you can read things into it but imo players will have off games regardless and 1 game samples just aren't worth much. It's all for fun anyhow so nothing against if people want to look at any single game more closely for discussion's sake. My response was more to do with LeBron and one player though. More can be read in terms of how teams perform.

I do agree with this.

[Ian Scuffling]

should have shipped lebron out.. him staying i knew it wasnt gonna work.. good luck asking bron to sacrifice and take a backseat to luka lol

ill give it a week before the leaks from espn start the "luka bashing" taking unverified sources as gospel, while luka becomes the new scapegoat.. in less than a month just watch the espn plants try and make luka to be the bad guy, calling luka "moody" and "not a team player"

So much dumb in one comment. Impressive, actually.

[tone wone]

A loss where they were injured and up against a team they just blew out wasn't the problem, the problem was the game showed they are now the type of good playoff team that can lose to size matchups regardless of opponent quality. They didn't play swarming defense and gang rebound but they shouldn't need to in February and it's all on Rob. The upcoming schedule is going to be brutal for wear and tear. Lowkey before the trade even AD was starting to show signs of breaking down. They'll now have to be picking and choosing when to play hard just to preserve their health.

League is too unforgiving to undersized teams. Watching Kessler get completely neutralized on Monday to then completely dominate on Wednesday was something. The ease at which he was able to control the paint at both ends was honestly impressive. Utah stinks but they're big and athletic as hell in the frontcourt.

Since switching is basically their base coverage now; it's going to be interesting to see how this looks against teams that have both attacking guards and big frontlines

[trickshot]

A loss where they were injured and up against a team they just blew out wasn't the problem, the problem was the game showed they are now the type of good playoff team that can lose to size matchups regardless of opponent quality. They didn't play swarming defense and gang rebound but they shouldn't need to in February and it's all on Rob. The upcoming schedule is going to be brutal for wear and tear. Lowkey before the trade even AD was starting to show signs of breaking down. They'll now have to be picking and choosing when to play hard just to preserve their health.

League is too unforgiving to undersized teams. Watching Kessler get completely neutralized on Monday to then completely dominate on Wednesday was something. The ease at which he was able to control the paint at both ends was honestly impressive. Utah stinks but they're big and athletic as hell in the frontcourt.

Since switching is basically their base coverage now; it's going to be interesting to see how this looks against teams that have both attacking guards and big frontlines

X and O wise that was a playoff level adjustment and a glimpse into the first adjustment they would need to counter in the playoffs. Utah streamlined their offense to only use what worked in the first game. They used their size to crash the offensive glass and their speed to attack weak iso defenders.

I think JJ is legit Coty material but his blindspot is doubling down on shooters when the team is getting dominated on the margins. Bit idealistic and doesn't like to muck up the game and focus on surviving. You can't always shoot your way out of a bad matchup.

Also hoping when he's healthy he re-works his system to use Luka's passing more. This equal opportunity ish is no longer as necessary and Rui and Reaves can't be calling their number when Luka hasn't touched the ball. Some of those contested low iq pull up jumpers yesterday were just insane

[rk2023]

should have shipped lebron out.. him staying i knew it wasnt gonna work.. good luck asking bron to sacrifice and take a backseat to luka lol

ill give it a week before the leaks from espn start the "luka bashing" taking unverified sources as gospel, while luka becomes the new scapegoat.. in less than a month just watch the espn plants try and make luka to be the bad guy, calling luka "moody" and "not a team player"

I remember the last time you were slandering Luka, was the playoff series. Where his team whooped your Clippers and your guy Harden. Which led you to getting a general board suspension (idk who let an absolute loser like yourself back in here) for saying Luka and Maxi should tear their ACLs and that you hope Dort maliciously hurts Luka.

Enjoy James retiring with 0 rings, you sack of ****

[NBA4Lyfe]

should have shipped lebron out.. him staying i knew it wasnt gonna work.. good luck asking bron to sacrifice and take a backseat to luka lol

ill give it a week before the leaks from espn start the "luka bashing" taking unverified sources as gospel, while luka becomes the new scapegoat.. in less than a month just watch the espn plants try and make luka to be the bad guy, calling luka "moody" and "not a team player"

I remember the last time you were slandering Luka, was the playoff series. Where his team whooped your Clippers and your guy Harden. Which led you to getting a general board suspension (idk who let an absolute loser like yourself back in here) for saying Luka and Maxi should tear their ACLs and that you hope Dort maliciously hurts Luka.

Enjoy James retiring with 0 rings, you sack of ****

lol Luka dont have rings either and now by sharing the load next to LeBron his career averages are gonna drop like a rock over these next few seasons

Also now that you mentioned harden, I can say with confidence that harden has never been traded like how Luka was just shipped out by Dallas. The Mavs viewed Luka as if he was a washed Danny granger lol. Shipped out in the middle of the night without a thought or care in the world. Do you understand the lengths James harden had to go to get traded. Fatsuit, dissing Morey, quitting... and those franchises still tried convincing harden to stay until the last second lol

Say what you want about harden but he was NEVER done the way the Mavs owner and gm just did Luka lol. Outside of his 3rd year Im the league with okc over not accepting 4 million dollars less

Harden produces wins wherever he goes, the clippers were picked to be a 13th seed in the west this yr lol. And look at them today

The league put in rules specifically to nerf harden.

And this is still the result lol

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[ScrantonBulls]

should have shipped lebron out.. him staying i knew it wasnt gonna work.. good luck asking bron to sacrifice and take a backseat to luka lol

ill give it a week before the leaks from espn start the "luka bashing" taking unverified sources as gospel, while luka becomes the new scapegoat.. in less than a month just watch the espn plants try and make luka to be the bad guy, calling luka "moody" and "not a team player"

Bro, it's been 2 games. Two games! One defeat against the same team they were up 30 points on 3 days ago. Which of the games did you see to conclude this? The issues have nothing to do with Luka or Lebron or offense or ball dominance or whatever low hanging fruit is being referred to. Luka didn't struggle, they are saran wrapping him while he recovers. Even put him on a minutes restriction. No one is discussing Luka because there simply isn't much to talk about until they feel comfortable enough to have his usage where it should be. In the maintime they are running conventional offense that won them 9 of their last 11 with or without the stars.

The reason they lost is the same reason AD was on National TV asking the GM to sign a 5. It takes too much physical effort to play without one. It would have been nice to have one while Luka gets up to speed. edit; yeah and how could I forget losing their first 3 rotation players off the bench to injury/dnp

I wouldn't bother with a serious response. That guy is one of the most obvious and blatant trolls on this entire forum. He doesn't even try to hide it.

[rk2023]

should have shipped lebron out.. him staying i knew it wasnt gonna work.. good luck asking bron to sacrifice and take a backseat to luka lol

ill give it a week before the leaks from espn start the "luka bashing" taking unverified sources as gospel, while luka becomes the new scapegoat.. in less than a month just watch the espn plants try and make luka to be the bad guy, calling luka "moody" and "not a team player"

I remember the last time you were slandering Luka, was the playoff series. Where his team whooped your Clippers and your guy Harden. Which led you to getting a general board suspension (idk who let an absolute loser like yourself back in here) for saying Luka and Maxi should tear their ACLs and that you hope Dort maliciously hurts Luka.

Enjoy James retiring with 0 rings, you sack of ****

lol Luka dont have rings either and now by sharing the load next to LeBron his career averages are gonna drop like a rock over these next few seasons

Also now that you mentioned harden, I can say with confidence that harden has never been traded like how Luka was just shipped out by Dallas. The Mavs viewed Luka as if he was a washed Danny granger lol. Shipped out in the middle of the night without a thought or care in the world. Do you understand the lengths James harden had to go to get traded. Fatsuit, dissing Morey, quitting... and those franchises still tried convincing harden to stay until the last second lol

Say what you want about harden but he was NEVER done the way the Mavs owner and gm just did Luka lol. Outside of his 3rd year Im the league with okc over not accepting 4 million dollars less

Harden produces wins wherever he goes, the clippers were picked to be a 13th seed in the west this yr lol. And look at them today

The league put in rules specifically to nerf harden.

And this is still the result lol

Read on Twitter

?s=46

Cool, good thing scoring averages are very far from an end-all, be-all - nor do we have any evidence they’re gonna crater. You **** moronic Harden fans have been brainwashed into thinking 35-6-8 “unguardable tour” stat lines are the only thing that matters because you’ve never gotten a taste of championship basketball. Which is why you’ve led yourself to being obtuse enough to believe the NBA is scripted and pre-determined for champions like LeBron and Steph.. maybe they just know how to win.

Do you not understand how pathetic propping up Harden as “the best winner / most winningest player out of serial losers” sounds Harden produces wins until it’s time to win a playoff series under adversity. Then he folds like a complete bitch , time after time

Also, using all of the “Mavericks did Luka like this, so he will never be Harden” logic undermines all of your conspiracy theories that you’ve been whining about on the GB endlessly about. Pick one side or the other, and stick to it.

Either way, even with the Mavs perhaps viewing him like that - Luka did something Harden never did and never will do last playoffs. Now that there’s reason to motivate him with all the smear campaigns Nico Harrison is putting out, mark my words that Luka will be a champion eventually and remembered a lot more prominently than your favorite player: the serial loser, choker, and flopper that was James Harden. None of your conspiracies or gerrymandered numbers will change the mind of anybody who knows ball. Enjoy retiring ringless

[NBA4Lyfe]

I remember the last time you were slandering Luka, was the playoff series. Where his team whooped your Clippers and your guy Harden. Which led you to getting a general board suspension (idk who let an absolute loser like yourself back in here) for saying Luka and Maxi should tear their ACLs and that you hope Dort maliciously hurts Luka.

Enjoy James retiring with 0 rings, you sack of ****

lol Luka dont have rings either and now by sharing the load next to LeBron his career averages are gonna drop like a rock over these next few seasons

Also now that you mentioned harden, I can say with confidence that harden has never been traded like how Luka was just shipped out by Dallas. The Mavs viewed Luka as if he was a washed Danny granger lol. Shipped out in the middle of the night without a thought or care in the world. Do you understand the lengths James harden had to go to get traded. Fatsuit, dissing Morey, quitting... and those franchises still tried convincing harden to stay until the last second lol

Say what you want about harden but he was NEVER done the way the Mavs owner and gm just did Luka lol. Outside of his 3rd year Im the league with okc over not accepting 4 million dollars less

Harden produces wins wherever he goes, the clippers were picked to be a 13th seed in the west this yr lol. And look at them today

The league put in rules specifically to nerf harden.

And this is still the result lol

Read on Twitter

?s=46

Cool, good thing scoring averages are very far from an end-all, be-all - nor do we have any evidence they’re gonna crater. You **** moronic Harden fans have been brainwashed into thinking 35-6-8 “unguardable tour” stat lines are the only thing that matters because you’ve never gotten a taste of championship basketball. Which is why you’ve led yourself to being obtuse enough to believe the NBA is scripted and pre-determined for champions like LeBron and Steph.. maybe they just know how to win.

Do you not understand how pathetic propping up Harden as “the best winner / most winningest player out of serial losers” sounds Harden produces wins until it’s time to win a playoff series under adversity. Then he folds like a complete bitch , time after time

Also, using all of the “Mavericks did Luka like this, so he will never be Harden” logic undermines all of your conspiracy theories that you’ve been whining about on the GB endlessly about. Pick one side or the other, and stick to it.

Either way, even with the Mavs perhaps viewing him like that - Luka did something Harden never did and never will do last playoffs. Now that there’s reason to motivate him with all the smear campaigns Nico Harrison is putting out, mark my words that Luka will be a champion eventually and remembered a lot more prominently than your favorite player: the serial loser, choker, and flopper that was James Harden. None of your conspiracies or gerrymandered numbers will change the mind of anybody who knows ball. Enjoy retiring ringless

lol the way Luka was just traded for nothing, will impact his goat legacy. You have to go back to babe Ruth to find something similar to a trade like this


How many nba level goat players were traded like how Luka was lol. Thst will for sure impact his goat legacy. Because Ath level players in any sport are not just shipped out like this.

[TroubleS0me]

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[rk2023]

Lebron post ASB last year:

27.5/7.6/9.5, 68.3% TS, 14-7 record, +8.3 net on-court

Luka post ASB last year:

33.2/10.1/10.3, 60.9% TS, 16-6 record, +10.8 net on-court

[Mos_Heat]

That thread about Lebron missing all star game is pure comedy

[trickshot]

Can't believe we had to pause Laker Doncic to watch this crap. Just condense the whole thing to 1-2 days already (3pt contest, dunk contest and the ASG only need one afternoon). Just wastes all the engagement of an eventful trade deadline

[Mos_Heat]

51 3s is a bit too much for this LA team

[tone wone]

2 great looks. Horrendous loss coming off that stinker against UTAH before the break.

Pitiful offensive performance. The Luka-AD swap has disoriented me as a viewer. I dunno what constitutes good offense for them anymore. Luka being so rusty makes it even harder.

[trickshot]

- Gollygeewowsers Luka is in terrible shape, wow, and joining a team that was revving just makes him stick like a sore thumb.
- Since Luka debuted Reaves has been playing like he cooks meth on weekends. Lakers role guys in general need to stop rushing to the top of the key to snatch the ball out of Luka's hands. As bad as Luka is atm Gabe, Rui and Reaves shooting off the dribble isn't winning either. Need to stay in their lane. He's not going to be great at system basketball from day 1 and still needs a steady diet of purposeful iso possessions.
- Lakers should also have traded Rui for size versatility but keep babying him. He's the one who is really redundant with Luka because you have to hide them on the same player. No matter his shooting splits the eyetest doesn't scream as a winning player who should be making more than all of Reaves, Gabe, Vando and DFS.

[EmpireFalls]

Not trying to troll, but I think the Lakers team is done for this season. Losing to the 24-25 Charlotte Hornets is awful. Trust me as someone who watched every game. We are nothing short of absolutely awful. Really disheartening loss

[Special_Puppy]

Not trying to troll, but I think the Lakers team is done for this season. Losing to the 24-25 Charlotte Hornets is awful. Trust me as someone who watched every game. We are nothing short of absolutely awful. Really disheartening loss

Beating Denver in 2 days would save the vibes

[TheGOATRises007]

1 bad RS loss doesn't define a season