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Post#181 » by Dcebucks11 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:28 am

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Man he has an insane ball handling for his size better than KD and he drives very low just like a guard


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Yeah his handling is very very good. Hands are the size of baseball gloves so that help him handle the ball well. Wouldn't say he's better than KD, KD has some nasty cross overs and tricks. But he's a very good ball handler.
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Post#182 » by RSCD3_ » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:47 am

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Man he has an insane ball handling for his size better than KD and he drives very low just like a guard


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Yeah his handling is very very good. Hands are the size of baseball gloves so that help him handle the ball well. Wouldn't say he's better than KD, KD has some nasty cross overs and tricks. But he's a very good ball handler.


KD has good crossovers but in terms of ball security he's at a slight lower level than Giannis IMO. Giannis has a bit lower of a dribble iirc


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Post#183 » by KyletheDingbat » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:36 am

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KyletheDingbat wrote:What people don't know about his game is that he has elite level feel for the game and court vision.

Every time I see him I'm astounded by both of those things. How it's not clear that he's an impending superstar is beyond me. He could utterly dominate the league one day.
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Post#184 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:17 pm

Bucks fans, what's up with his 3 point shooting? He improved (immensely in some areas) from every spot on the floor shooting, including the foul line, but he dropped from about 35% to 22% from 3, and his volume was cut to almost one third per 36.

Is it a case of just being on such a low volume that the only ones he's really putting up are bailouts? Is it the offense having him in spots he's less comfortable in? (I know personally I HATE shooting corner 3's, and those are the shortest/easiest for most).

Curious as to his drop, when he doesn't seem to be lacking confidence in his shooting, and the ability is clearly there.
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Post#185 » by ReKon » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:25 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:Bucks fans, what's up with his 3 point shooting? He improved (immensely in some areas) from every spot on the floor shooting, including the foul line, but he dropped from about 35% to 22% from 3, and his volume was cut to almost one third per 36.

Is it a case of just being on such a low volume that the only ones he's really putting up are bailouts? Is it the offense having him in spots he's less comfortable in? (I know personally I HATE shooting corner 3's, and those are the shortest/easiest for most).

Curious as to his drop, when he doesn't seem to be lacking confidence in his shooting, and the ability is clearly there.



There s an ongoing topic about this in the Bucks form

The general consensus is that Kidd has probably instructed him not to shoot any so that he doesn t develop any bad habits or something like that.He just stopped growing and hopefully they ll work on his perimeter shooting this summer.His mechanics are pretty good his shot is definitely not broken but it has been a major concern that he passes up on open 3s and opts to drive instead.
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Post#186 » by NO-KG-AI » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:42 pm

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NO-KG-AI wrote:Bucks fans, what's up with his 3 point shooting? He improved (immensely in some areas) from every spot on the floor shooting, including the foul line, but he dropped from about 35% to 22% from 3, and his volume was cut to almost one third per 36.

Is it a case of just being on such a low volume that the only ones he's really putting up are bailouts? Is it the offense having him in spots he's less comfortable in? (I know personally I HATE shooting corner 3's, and those are the shortest/easiest for most).

Curious as to his drop, when he doesn't seem to be lacking confidence in his shooting, and the ability is clearly there.



There s an ongoing topic about this in the Bucks form

The general consensus is that Kidd has probably instructed him not to shoot any so that he doesn t develop any bad habits or something like that.He just stopped growing and hopefully they ll work on his perimeter shooting this summer.His mechanics are pretty good his shot is definitely not broken but it has been a major concern that he passes up on open 3s and opts to drive instead.


Blech. That's so discouraging. I'd have to think as a coach coming in, looking at a promising rookie and seeing that he shot 35% from 3 at such a young age, I'd have to be thinking, "I wonder if I can get him the shots needed to get him to 38-40%."

Too many 3's can be bad, I agree, but this guy obviously had a base to build on, and that shouldn't have been scratched from his game. I don't want a guy that long and athletic away from the paint too much, but open 3's are a good thing.

How does such a smart player become such a dumb coach? lol.
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Post#187 » by ReKon » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:56 pm

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NO-KG-AI wrote:Bucks fans, what's up with his 3 point shooting? He improved (immensely in some areas) from every spot on the floor shooting, including the foul line, but he dropped from about 35% to 22% from 3, and his volume was cut to almost one third per 36.

Is it a case of just being on such a low volume that the only ones he's really putting up are bailouts? Is it the offense having him in spots he's less comfortable in? (I know personally I HATE shooting corner 3's, and those are the shortest/easiest for most).

Curious as to his drop, when he doesn't seem to be lacking confidence in his shooting, and the ability is clearly there.



There s an ongoing topic about this in the Bucks form

The general consensus is that Kidd has probably instructed him not to shoot any so that he doesn t develop any bad habits or something like that.He just stopped growing and hopefully they ll work on his perimeter shooting this summer.His mechanics are pretty good his shot is definitely not broken but it has been a major concern that he passes up on open 3s and opts to drive instead.


Blech. That's so discouraging. I'd have to think as a coach coming in, looking at a promising rookie and seeing that he shot 35% from 3 at such a young age, I'd have to be thinking, "I wonder if I can get him the shots needed to get him to 38-40%."

Too many 3's can be bad, I agree, but this guy obviously had a base to build on, and that shouldn't have been scratched from his game. I don't want a guy that long and athletic away from the paint too much, but open 3's are a good thing.

How does such a smart player become such a dumb coach? lol.



Well you have to give him some credit though.He took a team of a rookie a sophomore a 4th year sg who thinks he s a pg and a bunch of scrubs,lost said rookie and still has the team in the Playoffs(granted with a .500 record and in the EC).I give him a lot of credit and it could also be a confidence thing

Giannis has his own youtube channel and had a temmate trivia with Kendall Marshall.The question was what s your biggest fear and Giannis s answer was the 3pt line.It s probably the funny way to go but he could have some confidence issues with his 3pointer nonetheless.So it could be his own doing and Kidd could be trying to build his confidence
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Post#188 » by HeartBreakKid » Wed Jan 7, 2015 12:17 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:
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NO-KG-AI wrote:Bucks fans, what's up with his 3 point shooting? He improved (immensely in some areas) from every spot on the floor shooting, including the foul line, but he dropped from about 35% to 22% from 3, and his volume was cut to almost one third per 36.

Is it a case of just being on such a low volume that the only ones he's really putting up are bailouts? Is it the offense having him in spots he's less comfortable in? (I know personally I HATE shooting corner 3's, and those are the shortest/easiest for most).

Curious as to his drop, when he doesn't seem to be lacking confidence in his shooting, and the ability is clearly there.



There s an ongoing topic about this in the Bucks form

The general consensus is that Kidd has probably instructed him not to shoot any so that he doesn t develop any bad habits or something like that.He just stopped growing and hopefully they ll work on his perimeter shooting this summer.His mechanics are pretty good his shot is definitely not broken but it has been a major concern that he passes up on open 3s and opts to drive instead.


Blech. That's so discouraging. I'd have to think as a coach coming in, looking at a promising rookie and seeing that he shot 35% from 3 at such a young age, I'd have to be thinking, "I wonder if I can get him the shots needed to get him to 38-40%."

Too many 3's can be bad, I agree, but this guy obviously had a base to build on, and that shouldn't have been scratched from his game. I don't want a guy that long and athletic away from the paint too much, but open 3's are a good thing.

How does such a smart player become such a dumb coach? lol.


Is he a dumb coach? The Bucks seem very well coached to me.
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Post#189 » by Illmatic12 » Wed Jan 7, 2015 1:39 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:
ReKon wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:Bucks fans, what's up with his 3 point shooting? He improved (immensely in some areas) from every spot on the floor shooting, including the foul line, but he dropped from about 35% to 22% from 3, and his volume was cut to almost one third per 36.

Is it a case of just being on such a low volume that the only ones he's really putting up are bailouts? Is it the offense having him in spots he's less comfortable in? (I know personally I HATE shooting corner 3's, and those are the shortest/easiest for most).

Curious as to his drop, when he doesn't seem to be lacking confidence in his shooting, and the ability is clearly there.



There s an ongoing topic about this in the Bucks form

The general consensus is that Kidd has probably instructed him not to shoot any so that he doesn t develop any bad habits or something like that.He just stopped growing and hopefully they ll work on his perimeter shooting this summer.His mechanics are pretty good his shot is definitely not broken but it has been a major concern that he passes up on open 3s and opts to drive instead.


Blech. That's so discouraging. I'd have to think as a coach coming in, looking at a promising rookie and seeing that he shot 35% from 3 at such a young age, I'd have to be thinking, "I wonder if I can get him the shots needed to get him to 38-40%."

Too many 3's can be bad, I agree, but this guy obviously had a base to build on, and that shouldn't have been scratched from his game. I don't want a guy that long and athletic away from the paint too much, but open 3's are a good thing.

How does such a smart player become such a dumb coach? lol.

Kidd is a pretty impressive coach from what I've seen.

In fact this is smart imo, too many young players tend to fall in love with their outside shot and Kidd is making sure Giannis doesn't do that early in his development. With him just coming from overseas, you don't want to ruin Giannis with that AAU style of play. Let him learn how to put the ball on the floor, post up (which guys like Durant and Lebron didn't learn how to do until their 7th-8th seasons) and the 3pt shot can be added later.
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Post#190 » by Clyde Frazier » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:41 am

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Post#191 » by thizznation » Wed Jan 7, 2015 6:52 am

I say that's a good call with Kidd to not have him chuck 3's during games and let him devlope his all around game more. If that really is the case that is.
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Post#192 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Jan 7, 2015 7:47 am

thizznation wrote:I say that's a good call with Kidd to not have him chuck 3's during games and let him devlope his all around game more. If that really is the case that is.


Eh, at his minutes, shooting 2-3 open 3's a game, as opposed to passing them up (like some have said he is doing), isn't chucking at all, and actually shooting a reasonable percentage (I'd have to think he can shoot better than the 35% he shot last year, which is still respectable), would only help their offense.
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Post#193 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jan 7, 2015 8:14 am

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thizznation wrote:I say that's a good call with Kidd to not have him chuck 3's during games and let him devlope his all around game more. If that really is the case that is.


Eh, at his minutes, shooting 2-3 open 3's a game, as opposed to passing them up (like some have said he is doing), isn't chucking at all, and actually shooting a reasonable percentage (I'd have to think he can shoot better than the 35% he shot last year, which is still respectable), would only help their offense.

I don't think he's been told not to shoot them. His confidence dropped a bit on his jumpers and he stopped shooting them. He's probably only taken 20 all up that weren't heaves. His ability to get up the court so quick sees him as the end of quarters guy shooting 30 foot runners. He's shooting more now and I imagine he'll get to 30% or so by the end of the season. He's also playing a little more at his natural PF spot and a little at C which is helping his game but it seems Kidd really wants him at SF so that'll likely happen when we get some bigs back healthy.
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Post#194 » by mattg » Thu Jan 8, 2015 8:33 pm

I think the growth spurt over the offseason just messed with his form a bit. Those 2 inches of height meant his upper body was a little more all over the place when shooting, and you could see his form had inconsistencies at the start of the year. However, the last couple games he's been taking jumpers with much more confidence and the form looks much more compact and fluid, so that's a good sign.
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Post#195 » by Dcebucks11 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:19 pm

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... e-rankings

1:25 on giannis and his shooting. He doesn't shoot often but he's taking more and more jumpers recently, alot of heaves at the end of shot clocks etc have dropped his percentage too. He just needs to get the muscle memory down cuz his form looks good.
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Post#196 » by bigheadburton » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:40 pm

I've watched more Bucks than usual this season, with Parker and Giannis they were high on my must watch list.

From what I've seen Giannis improvement when driving to the basket now compared to early in the season is incredible. When he started to attack more, around the time they met the Grizzlies, he mostly just did the same move. He ramped up speed and went to his left. It often looked a bit forced, like he decided to attack and then that move was all he could do.

Lately I've only watched highlights, but he looks so much more fluid. He can do spinmoves, crossovers, go both left and right. His moves look more relaxed if that makes sense, the game has slowed down for him. When his midrange shot starts falling it's over.
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Post#197 » by H2tObes » Thu Jan 8, 2015 11:01 pm

The day Giannis starts nailing jumpers at a consistent clip the league needs to watch out. Can't be said enough.
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Post#198 » by Johnlac1 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 1:35 am

H2tObes wrote:The day Giannis starts nailing jumpers at a consistent clip the league needs to watch out. Can't be said enough.

A number of "experts" say it's vitally important that Giannis be a good three point shooter. Actually, if he just starts nailing his mid-range shots, he will be unstoppable. Before this season Lamarcus Aldridge rarely attempted a three point shot. I'm fairly certain he was a pretty good player before this season.
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Post#199 » by RightToCensor » Fri Jan 9, 2015 4:54 am

I'm surprised that Kidd isn't focused on developing Giannis' jumper. With his size and handle he can get his shot over any player, just like KD.
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Post#200 » by AussieBuck » Fri Jan 9, 2015 10:25 am

RightToCensor wrote:I'm surprised that Kidd isn't focused on developing Giannis' jumper. With his size and handle he can get his shot over any player, just like KD.

The popular theory which is getting more traction by the day is that Kidd is totally win obsessed above all else.
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