The CP3 Thread 18-19 Part 1

GSP · Post #181 » by **GSP** » Sun May 5, 2019 5:11 am

Love his defense and decision making this series. Hes been terrific. The Rockets are alot more poised than last year

Mrakar · Post #182 » by **Mrakar** » Sun May 5, 2019 7:45 am

tone wone wrote:He's declined so much as a shot creator. Just very little pop to his game right now.

Man was pick and roll player his whole career. Now he is "forced" to play one on one and he was never great at it. Maybe he would have been in his younger years but since he got "fat" he lost his speed and he can't dribble penetrate 1v1.
I still don't know why they force him to play 1v1 and not pick and roll/pop.
Watching this series showed me once more how much this man wants to win and how little stats mean to him. Jumping to that jump ball twice before referee throwed it is a perfect example.

Dr Spaceman · Post #183 » by **Dr Spaceman** » Sun May 5, 2019 10:47 am

Mrakar wrote:
tone wone wrote:He's declined so much as a shot creator. Just very little pop to his game right now.

Man was pick and roll player his whole career. Now he is "forced" to play one on one and he was never great at it. Maybe he would have been in his younger years but since he got "fat" he lost his speed and he can't dribble penetrate 1v1.
I still don't know why they force him to play 1v1 and not pick and roll/pop.
Watching this series showed me once more how much this man wants to win and how little stats mean to him. Jumping to that jump ball twice before referee throwed it is a perfect example.

They’re relying on him much less as a 1v1 creator than they did last year. Think his role has changed nicely with his decline. EG is the one taking on most of the scoring guard responsibilities these days which is how it should be. CP3 has taken on the floor general role and while he striggled the first two games against GSW he was able to get those lineups really rolling last night.

MO12msu · Post #184 » by **MO12msu** » Sun May 5, 2019 5:19 pm

I do think the Rockets need to embrace the conventional pick and roll offense even more than they already have with the Paul + bench lineups in. That will always be his bread and butter, even with the drop off in play.

thekdog34 · Post #185 » by **thekdog34** » Sun May 5, 2019 5:30 pm

Don't think the rockets have a prayer without him

Lost92Bricks · Post #186 » by **Lost92Bricks** » Tue May 7, 2019 4:24 am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CP!

Obviously not a great game, but he made key plays down the stretch. The steal on Draymond was one of the biggest plays of the game. The rebounds were huge and the drive on Curry.

GSP · Post #187 » by **GSP** » Tue May 7, 2019 4:25 am

Lost92Bricks wrote:HAPPY BIRTHDAY CP!

Obviously not a great game, but he made key plays down the stretch. The steal on Draymond was one of the biggest plays of the game. The rebonds were huge and the drive on Curry.

Thought he had a really good game TBH

tone wone · Post #188 » by **tone wone** » Thu May 9, 2019 5:37 am

3-14, 0-6 from 3. Sigh. He's toast as a creator.

Going forward, even if his jumper returns to form, I don't see him even replicating present day Lowry offensive impact....particularly in Houston's offense. Kyle can at least pretend to play downhill and is a much bigger spot up threat.

He's a prideful mofo, so I know he hates playing like this on a team that's so close but damn I don't see it getting any better.

TheGOATRises007 · Post #189 » by **TheGOATRises007** » Thu May 9, 2019 5:47 am

I don't see how anyone can root for him honestly.

He is a disgrace to the sport with his flopping at times.

The NBA need to start fining players.

cpower · Post #190 » by **cpower** » Thu May 9, 2019 5:49 am

over 10 years ago he was one of my favourite players...but now he has been a disgrace to basketball.. how can you literally flop on every play?

thekdog34 · Post #191 » by **thekdog34** » Thu May 9, 2019 6:04 am

Well he's 34. That's a normal age to see significant decline, sadly

Dr Spaceman · Post #192 » by **Dr Spaceman** » Thu May 9, 2019 7:26 am

He’s been the 4th best player on the team this postseason. Maybe 5th if Capela were consistently healthy.

Still he’s a very valuable player. I don’t think there are many PGs that could step into his place right now and do this. His defense is still insane.

Dupp · Post #193 » by **Dupp** » Thu May 9, 2019 8:10 am

yeah hes been trash. this is his chance finally

WestGOAT · Post #194 » by **WestGOAT** » Thu May 9, 2019 8:47 am

It's probably more of him being washed up, than simply choking. He's pretty much starting the twilight of his career now.

thekdog34 · Post #195 » by **thekdog34** » Thu May 9, 2019 12:29 pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:He’s been the 4th best player on the team this postseason. Maybe 5th if Capela were consistently healthy.

Still he’s a very valuable player. I don’t think there are many PGs that could step into his place right now and do this. His defense is still insane.

Agreed. He can't score much but he does a lot else

Dr Spaceman · Post #196 » by **Dr Spaceman** » Thu May 9, 2019 12:45 pm

thekdog34 wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:He’s been the 4th best player on the team this postseason. Maybe 5th if Capela were consistently healthy.

Still he’s a very valuable player. I don’t think there are many PGs that could step into his place right now and do this. His defense is still insane.

Agreed. He can't score much but he does a lot else

He can still run a pick and roll okay, it’s just everything he does is nullified by a switch since he can’t beat even below average big men off the dribble anymore.

His contract is going to be one of the very worst in NBA history though if he’s already this level of player in year 1.

thekdog34 · Post #197 » by **thekdog34** » Thu May 9, 2019 2:03 pm

Dr Spaceman wrote:
thekdog34 wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:He’s been the 4th best player on the team this postseason. Maybe 5th if Capela were consistently healthy.

Still he’s a very valuable player. I don’t think there are many PGs that could step into his place right now and do this. His defense is still insane.

Agreed. He can't score much but he does a lot else

He can still run a pick and roll okay, it’s just everything he does is nullified by a switch since he can’t beat even below average big men off the dribble anymore.

His contract is going to be one of the very worst in NBA history though if he’s already this level of player in year 1.

Well I think he'll still be a positive impact player. Without him the warriors probably sweep . He'll be 36 in his last year of the contract so I don't think he'll necessarily fall off a cliff

Ambrose · Post #198 » by **Ambrose** » Thu May 9, 2019 3:26 pm

I used to love CP3. Now I can't stand him. His contract is going to eat Houston alive for the next few years.

bledredwine · Post #199 » by **bledredwine** » Thu May 9, 2019 4:31 pm

Chris Paul shrinking in the most important playoff moments happens EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

But there's a group of posters who won't aknowledge it. At this point, you just accept it for what it is- pure denial.

When I get to this point (as I have with some of the other players on this forum as well, you know who I'm alluding to), I can finally be at peace with knowing it's not actually a matter of facts but rather that they choose to believe what they want.

HeartBreakKid · Post #200 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Thu May 9, 2019 4:35 pm

bledredwine wrote:Chris Paul shrinking in the most important playoff moments happens EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.

But there's a group of posters who won't aknowledge it. At this point, you just accept it for what it is- pure denial.

When I get to this point (as I have with some of the other players on this forum as well, you know who I'm alluding to), I can finally be at peace with knowing it's not actually a matter of facts but rather that they choose to believe what they want.

How did he shrink last year? He was the best player on both the Rockets and Warriors. Or the year before that...or the year before that. Losing doesn't mean shrinking. "there are a group of people who refuse to acknowledge that".

Chris Paul is not in his prime anymore...