2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

[RCM88x]

https://youtu.be/s6k0SFE0R1I?t=53

This play shows how massive the difference is between 1992 and 2022 officiating. No ref would even call that move a travel now.

Yeah because they would be wrong. They were wrong then too. Love how the announcers clamor for it being a good call too.

Also lmao cheerleaders

[toodles23]

https://youtu.be/s6k0SFE0R1I?t=53

This play shows how massive the difference is between 1992 and 2022 officiating. No ref would even call that move a travel now.

Yeah because they would be wrong. They were wrong then too. Love how the announcers clamor for it being a good call too.

Also lmao cheerleaders

Yeah even for 1992 that was a very tight whistle. That's a kind of move guys like Jordan, Pippen, or Drexler did all the time.

[LukaTheGOAT]

Baketball Reference's MVP Tracker has has 3 Phoenix Suns in the top 10 right now, and 2 in the top 6.

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[falcolombardi]

is wild thst sixers are the 1st seed and nuggets 6th with only like 3 games difference, yet thst may decide the mvp

if nuggets were in the east and sixers west their seeding would be almost idéntical and people would stop using seed as a criteria in the mvp race

[LukaTheGOAT]

The Celtics starting lineup defense is holding opponents to 17.1 less points per 100 possessions than average- a 907 possession sample.

[falcolombardi]

The Celtics starting lineup defense is holding opponents to 17.1 less points per 100 possessions than average- a 907 possession sample.

i had said they were 2019 raptors like, turns out they were actually 2004 pistons like but with prime lebron-lite leading them

[70sFan]

https://youtu.be/s6k0SFE0R1I?t=53

This play shows how massive the difference is between 1992 and 2022 officiating. No ref would even call that move a travel now.

Yeah because they would be wrong. They were wrong then too. Love how the announcers clamor for it being a good call too.

Also lmao cheerleaders

Yeah even for 1992 that was a very tight whistle. That's a kind of move guys like Jordan, Pippen, or Drexler did all the time.

The point is that this whistle would be impossible today. Sure, refs started to allow players do more and more in the 1990s, but it still wasn't generally accepted to make such eurostep without a traveling call (espeically if you were a bigman).

If you go back to the late 1970s or early 1980s, most refs wouldn't allow that move. That's why we have to take into account that refs influenced the game as much as players skill development.

[Doctor MJ]

Baketball Reference's MVP Tracker has has 3 Phoenix Suns in the top 10 right now, and 2 in the top 6.

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3 Suns in the Top 10, none of them the guy who actually has played the most and has the big +/- numbers.

[Black Feet]

Baketball Reference's MVP Tracker has has 3 Phoenix Suns in the top 10 right now, and 2 in the top 6.

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3 Suns in the Top 10, none of them the guy who actually has played the most and has the big +/- numbers.

CP3 being in the top 5 and above Booker is a joke, him and Ayton have no business being in top 10.

[Doctor MJ]

Baketball Reference's MVP Tracker has has 3 Phoenix Suns in the top 10 right now, and 2 in the top 6.

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Replying again because I just realized Harden is on that list. That really shows the limitations of their approach.

[HeartBreakKid]

Baketball Reference's MVP Tracker has has 3 Phoenix Suns in the top 10 right now, and 2 in the top 6.

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3 Suns in the Top 10, none of them the guy who actually has played the most and has the big +/- numbers.

CP3 being in the top 5 and above Booker is a joke, him and Ayton have no business being in top 10.

Litmus test to see if someone knows anything about basketball.

[Peregrine01]

Man. CP3 must have enjoyed targeting Harden in the pick and roll like that. Suns scored on virtually every possession in the 4th going at him. Sixers' pick and roll defense is not gonna get them far in the playoffs at all.

[falcolombardi]

suns may jusy win 66-68 games in a league where the second best record doesnt hit 55

this is actually a very tight league and then the suns just on top, which probably makes it even more impressive

[Dr Positivity]

Nets really need to stay out of 9th. One game elimination against Trae and then having to win another game, is so much worse than if you play a declining Cavs team and have a backup game if you lose.

The Lakers look like they're going to miss the play in to me. @ DAL, @ UTA, vs NOP, vs DEN, @ PHX, @ GSW, @ OKC, @ DEN, how many wins are they supposed to get there? If I read rules correctly the Spurs have tiebreaker (better conference record)

[LukaTheGOAT]

According to
The BBall Index
Luka Doncic ranks:
-94th percentile in shotmaking ability
-99th percentile in overall perimeter shooting talent
-100th percentile in shot creation ability

...despite being in the:
-0th percentile for shot quality
-3rd percentile for shot openness

[falcolombardi]

timelord injury just killed boston title hopes , he was low key their second most important player

[Statlanta]

I don't see the Sun's comparison to the 2013-2014 Spurs. They remind me more of the 2015 Warriors. An unproven team and coach taking advantage of the injury situation of the previous Champion(2015 Spurs/2021 Lakers) with injury questions. The field is just much too flawed to pick anybody but them at this point.

[The High Cyde]

The Bucks might have something to say about that. I honestly can’t wait to see these two teams matchup again the Finals, that last one was entertaining af.

Who knows though, that’s why you gotta play the games. I think another title puts Giannis in the top 15-20, maybe even higher, his resume is getting very hard to ignore.

[Doctor MJ]

So I'll just say it:

If the Celtics end up with a better record than the Bucks/76ers, with Tatum continuing to play like he has and continuing to rack up massive +/- stats, I don't see any good reason why people should think it obvious that Giannis & Embiid should rank higher on an MVP list than him.

I don't think anyone's crazy for having an ordering of the 3 with Tatum at the bottom, but if you're not even considering it, to me you're really not evaluating Tatum through the same criteria you're looking at Giannis & Embiid, and I think that means you have to go back to the drawing board.

With Giannis in particular - who I'm not at all looking to say I'm skeptical of what he can do - there's been a pretty major change in what his regular season impact has looked like these past two seasons compared to his MVP years that people seem to want to overlook despite the fact that Giannis has been pretty open about not taking the regular season as seriously as he did previously, and the Bucks having a disappointing record compared to what we would expect from an NBA champion at their best.

(Not saying Embiid's necessarily even as strong as Giannis to be clear, but at least in his case this is clearly his best regular season to date.)

[parsnips33]

timelord injury just killed boston title hopes , he was low key their second most important player

No chance he can make it back in the playoffs huh? Super disappointing, very impressed with what I saw from him this season