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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1841 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:56 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:I mean I point this out a lot to empty ears, but Lebron played Dallas 8x that year, not just 6. And Dallas limited him considerably in those RS games as well. And they had 3 wing defenders who all thought they had business guarding him 1v1, 2 7 footers on the court behind those guys basically at all times, the best zone defense in the league against a team with not nearly enough shooting, etc...

I mean yes most of this is on Lebron. But Dallas should get more credit than they get. Some seem to believe that title is just about Dirk going HAM. And he certainly did in the RS(should have been MVP perhaps) and in the West, but that was also a very deep, veteran, complete team with the deepest coaching staff in the league.

Maybe give them a little credit?


LeBron torched a team with Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard as defensive wings and with two 7' footers behind them [Duncan/Splitter] in both 2013 and 2014 [2 and 3 years later].

We can give credit for Dallas and focus on that aspect but talking about and focusing on LeBron and why he personally came up short doesn't necessarily sell Dallas short.


Oh this is less about me seeing to it that Dallas gets credit(though they should get more) and more about we might should cool it with the whole Lebron just didn't know how to win narrative which feels like something we could say about literally every superstar right up until they do win, but we typically don't because we know better.

And Lebron spent a decade after that series proving over and over and over he knows how to win. It's a lazy narrative attached to a player who doesn't play the approved way. And instead of leaning into that we should explore all the reasons he struggled. Most of which are about Lebron. But a non-negligible percentage is about Dallas specifically who despite what Wade fans want to insist, they made Lebron their focus and dared Wade to beat them again. And as good as Wade was in that series, he couldn't. Their plan was the right plan and executed to near perfection.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1842 » by OhayoKD » Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:44 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I mean I point this out a lot to empty ears, but Lebron played Dallas 8x that year, not just 6. And Dallas limited him considerably in those RS games as well. And they had 3 wing defenders who all thought they had business guarding him 1v1, 2 7 footers on the court behind those guys basically at all times, the best zone defense in the league against a team with not nearly enough shooting, etc...

I mean yes most of this is on Lebron. But Dallas should get more credit than they get. Some seem to believe that title is just about Dirk going HAM. And he certainly did in the RS(should have been MVP perhaps) and in the West, but that was also a very deep, veteran, complete team with the deepest coaching staff in the league.

Maybe give them a little credit?


LeBron torched a team with Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard as defensive wings and with two 7' footers behind them [Duncan/Splitter] in both 2013 and 2014 [2 and 3 years later].

We can give credit for Dallas and focus on that aspect but talking about and focusing on LeBron and why he personally came up short doesn't necessarily sell Dallas short.


Oh this is less about me seeing to it that Dallas gets credit(though they should get more) and more about we might should cool it with the whole Lebron just didn't know how to win narrative which feels like something we could say about literally every superstar right up until they do win, but we typically don't because we know better.

And Lebron spent a decade after that series proving over and over and over he knows how to win. It's a lazy narrative attached to a player who doesn't play the approved way. And instead of leaning into that we should explore all the reasons he struggled. Most of which are about Lebron. But a non-negligible percentage is about Dallas specifically who despite what Wade fans want to insist, they made Lebron their focus and dared Wade to beat them again. And as good as Wade was in that series, he couldn't. Their plan was the right plan and executed to near perfection.

This thread is worth a read:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1377189
lots of straight basketball discussion here but some general pick ups

-> late adjustments offensively
-> loss of athleticism from 09/10 with weight gain
-> lebron seeing alot more zone than used to
-> dallas making extensive use of analytics
-> broken play-calling on offense
-> lebron being dared to make "the right basketball decision" again and again
-> lebron posting up away from his spots

unpolished scoring arsenal combined with lesser athleticism combined with a sneaky good playoff defense(-4) and a sneaky good opponent(ripped through the west), combined with a coaching mismatch, combined with a probable mental "folding" under immense external pressure produces a sub-standard performance to pair with a finals defeat.

A waste to be sure, but the retroactive revisionism was never well thought out. Lebron's teams were generally playoff-risers before that point and got back to being playoff risers after that point. Dallas were a great team that did a very good job setting Lebron up to underperform and ultimately beat what was a very strong playoff opponent(flaws and all) for one of the most impressive championships there are.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1843 » by Goudelock » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:43 pm

Every time a topic like the Bronny James one pops up, I suddenly see a whole lot of unfamiliar posters start being real opinionated on the subject.

I'm like "Why can't y'all put that energy into discussing the actual sport this board is designed to discuss? I don't see any of y'all going this hard on why Tyrese Haliburton should be an all NBA player."
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Post#1844 » by parsnips33 » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:48 pm

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That shot at 1:35 was easily the greatest sky hook of Abdul-Jabbar's career.

And when it comes to GOAT candidates having roles in movies, this clears both Jordan and James in Space Jam, Chamberlain in Conan the Barbarian, and every other NBA player in history.

Shaq in Steel was pretty tough


I’m taking Uncut Gems Garnett over the field


Legit think KG should have been Oscar nominated for that role. Heard rumors they originally had tossed around Embiid/Amare/Kobe for the part, but I can't imagine the movie working as well as it did without KG
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Post#1845 » by OhayoKD » Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:49 pm

parsnips33 wrote:
rk2023 wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:Shaq in Steel was pretty tough


I’m taking Uncut Gems Garnett over the field


Legit think KG should have been Oscar nominated for that role. Heard rumors they originally had tossed around Embiid/Amare/Kobe for the part, but I can't imagine the movie working as well as it did without KG

I mean if we're giving a "best acting from a nba player", sure. KG playing himself doesn't really justify that otherwise.
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Post#1846 » by 1993Playoffs » Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:10 pm

Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is
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Post#1847 » by HeartBreakKid » Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:21 pm

1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

whatchu talkin bout
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Post#1848 » by jalengreen » Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:29 pm

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1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

whatchu talkin bout


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Post#1849 » by Dr Positivity » Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:10 pm

Not really a baseball guy but I tried an all time top 10 list if anyone wants to check it out viewtopic.php?f=130&t=2311605&p=107815701#p107815701 My philosophy as in the top 100 project is to treat era competition as important which I think leads to different results than the conventional media list (eg. ESPN's top 10 was Ruth, Mays, Aaron, Cobb, Williams, Gehrig, Mantle, Bonds, (Walter) Johnson and Musial - the most recent players other than Bonds are Aaron/Mays?)
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#1850 » by 70sFan » Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:56 pm

1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

It's not the first time media are going too quickly for sensation. We need way more studies on that material before we can conclude anything meaningful.
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Post#1851 » by 1993Playoffs » Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:03 pm

70sFan wrote:
1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

It's not the first time media are going too quickly for sensation. We need way more studies on that material before we can conclude anything meaningful.
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1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

whatchu talkin bout



A room temperature super conductor would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in physics of the 21st century. A lot of energy in electronics is lost in heat with a super conductor at room temperature you effectively lose 0% energy. Basically most things that use electricity can be much more powerful and efficient.

And yeah 70sfan I hope the peer review can replicate it. I’m cautiously optimistic
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Post#1852 » by 70sFan » Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:14 am

1993Playoffs wrote:
70sFan wrote:
1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

It's not the first time media are going too quickly for sensation. We need way more studies on that material before we can conclude anything meaningful.
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1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

whatchu talkin bout



A room temperature super conductor would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in physics of the 21st century. A lot of energy in electronics is lost in heat with a super conductor at room temperature you effectively lose 0% energy. Basically most things that use electricity can be much more powerful and efficient.

And yeah 70sfan I hope the peer review can replicate it. I’m cautiously optimistic

I know the physics behind superconductors and I know their limitations. Room temperature superconductor is an amazing achievement (assuming it will be falsified positively), but it's not that easy that we will now use them everywhere. We will still face a lot of engineering problems to solve.

With that being said, it's an outstanding accomplishment. It gives us another example of quantum phenomenon at macro scale and in regular environment. I haven't read the paper though, so I remained cautiously pessimistic for now :D
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Post#1853 » by rk2023 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:09 am

70sFan wrote:
1993Playoffs wrote:
70sFan wrote:It's not the first time media are going too quickly for sensation. We need way more studies on that material before we can conclude anything meaningful.
HeartBreakKid wrote:whatchu talkin bout



A room temperature super conductor would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in physics of the 21st century. A lot of energy in electronics is lost in heat with a super conductor at room temperature you effectively lose 0% energy. Basically most things that use electricity can be much more powerful and efficient.

And yeah 70sfan I hope the peer review can replicate it. I’m cautiously optimistic

I know the physics behind superconductors and I know their limitations. Room temperature superconductor is an amazing achievement (assuming it will be falsified positively), but it's not that easy that we will now use them everywhere. We will still face a lot of engineering problems to solve.

With that being said, it's an outstanding accomplishment. It gives us another example of quantum phenomenon at macro scale and in regular environment. I haven't read the paper though, so I remained cautiously pessimistic for now :D


Not the biggest physics guy in the room (by any means, that too), but on that note - saw Oppenheimer with a friend group tonight. Tremendous film from a scientific, decision making, & moral standpoint. Cillian Murphy played the Dr. Opp role perfectly, and Christopher Nolan did an amazing job putting it together. My second favorite film of his, only to The Dark Knight.
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Post#1854 » by 70sFan » Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:53 am

rk2023 wrote:
70sFan wrote:
1993Playoffs wrote:

A room temperature super conductor would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in physics of the 21st century. A lot of energy in electronics is lost in heat with a super conductor at room temperature you effectively lose 0% energy. Basically most things that use electricity can be much more powerful and efficient.

And yeah 70sfan I hope the peer review can replicate it. I’m cautiously optimistic

I know the physics behind superconductors and I know their limitations. Room temperature superconductor is an amazing achievement (assuming it will be falsified positively), but it's not that easy that we will now use them everywhere. We will still face a lot of engineering problems to solve.

With that being said, it's an outstanding accomplishment. It gives us another example of quantum phenomenon at macro scale and in regular environment. I haven't read the paper though, so I remained cautiously pessimistic for now :D


Not the biggest physics guy in the room (by any means, that too), but on that note - saw Oppenheimer with a friend group tonight. Tremendous film from a scientific, decision making, & moral standpoint. Cillian Murphy played the Dr. Opp role perfectly, and Christopher Nolan did an amazing job putting it together. My second favorite film of his, only to The Dark Knight.

I have plans to watch it soon!
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Post#1855 » by penbeast0 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:06 am

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1993Playoffs wrote:Man this room temperature super conductor stuff has me in the edge of my seat. I hope it’s true. Really big if it is

whatchu talkin bout


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Post#1856 » by rk2023 » Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:09 pm

As one who’s getting more into scouting and prospect / development analysis coupled with the recent T-100 project, a random thought that I had is how many Kevin Garnett disciples are coming into the league (he’s getting a fair share of circulation for the 9 spot at the moment, for context). A while back, Davis and more recently - Mobley, Chet, Wembanyama… and (soon) Cooper Flagg. Of course, all aren’t close to as bulky as Garnett was in his heyday - but there are certainly shades I see from a standpoint of having range in their offensive game along with stellar mobile big-man defense. Definitely outside that particular projects’ scope, but all of the aforementioned has me wondering how much of a cheat code Garnett would be in today’s league.
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Post#1857 » by Colbinii » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:50 pm

rk2023 wrote:As one who’s getting more into scouting and prospect / development analysis coupled with the recent T-100 project, a random thought that I had is how many Kevin Garnett disciples are coming into the league (he’s getting a fair share of circulation for the 9 spot at the moment, for context). A while back, Davis and more recently - Mobley, Chet, Wembanyama… and (soon) Cooper Flagg. Of course, all aren’t close to as bulky as Garnett was in his heyday - but there are certainly shades I see from a standpoint of having range in their offensive game along with stellar mobile big-man defense. Definitely outside that particular projects’ scope, but all of the aforementioned has me wondering how much of a cheat code Garnett would be in today’s league.


Flagg is closer to Tom Gugliotta imo given the athleticism but I am also high on that archetype, especially in today's league.
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Post#1858 » by rk2023 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:02 pm

Colbinii wrote:
rk2023 wrote:As one who’s getting more into scouting and prospect / development analysis coupled with the recent T-100 project, a random thought that I had is how many Kevin Garnett disciples are coming into the league (he’s getting a fair share of circulation for the 9 spot at the moment, for context). A while back, Davis and more recently - Mobley, Chet, Wembanyama… and (soon) Cooper Flagg. Of course, all aren’t close to as bulky as Garnett was in his heyday - but there are certainly shades I see from a standpoint of having range in their offensive game along with stellar mobile big-man defense. Definitely outside that particular projects’ scope, but all of the aforementioned has me wondering how much of a cheat code Garnett would be in today’s league.


Flagg is closer to Tom Gugliotta imo given the athleticism but I am also high on that archetype, especially in today's league.


Have you seen any of Cam Boozer by chance? I personally have not yet - but have heard a lot of great intel. Otoh, AJ Dybantsa (class of 2026 wing) looks like the real deal. Only 15 y/o and has been scoring at will in 17u EYBL as well as the Drew League. Hoping all three pan out and end up as generational H.S. prospects, would be quite amazing to see.


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Post#1859 » by 1993Playoffs » Tue Aug 1, 2023 8:37 am

70sFan wrote:
1993Playoffs wrote:
70sFan wrote:It's not the first time media are going too quickly for sensation. We need way more studies on that material before we can conclude anything meaningful.
HeartBreakKid wrote:whatchu talkin bout



A room temperature super conductor would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in physics of the 21st century. A lot of energy in electronics is lost in heat with a super conductor at room temperature you effectively lose 0% energy. Basically most things that use electricity can be much more powerful and efficient.

And yeah 70sfan I hope the peer review can replicate it. I’m cautiously optimistic

I know the physics behind superconductors and I know their limitations. Room temperature superconductor is an amazing achievement (assuming it will be falsified positively), but it's not that easy that we will now use them everywhere. We will still face a lot of engineering problems to solve.

With that being said, it's an outstanding accomplishment. It gives us another example of quantum phenomenon at macro scale and in regular environment. I haven't read the paper though, so I remained cautiously pessimistic for now :D



Hey 70s it looks like they may have successfully replicated the sample!



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Post#1860 » by Moonbeam » Wed Aug 2, 2023 10:26 pm

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Ed Nealy | Bill Wennington | Kirk Hinrich
Jay Humphries | Adrian Dantley | Paul Pressey


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