MisterHibachi wrote:freethedevil wrote:MisterHibachi wrote:
I really haven't been worried about the Bucks all year, Giannis cannot be trusted against elite defenses. I would much rather the Lakers play the Bucks than the Celtics.
Giannis scored effeciently and had 9 assists in addition to creating 3 buckets from screens. If giannis scores one more bucket and gets one more assist we aren't having this conversation.
The real question here is
A. Why does this bucks team's perimiter d collapse without bledsoe
and
B. why is bud playiing the bench so much.
There's no way anyone could've watched tonight's game and thought Giannis played well.
Huh? I made a holistic assessment looking at all of the aspects of the game. Your only points apparently are ppg and man d. Please stop trying to flex your **** ass eyetest. Not of all of us are ball watchers.
If you watched the game why don't you address my eye-based analysis point by point.
He's an all time great with all time expectations,
If you're holding him to the standard of a peak KG a peak duncan, peak lebron, or peak mj, then i can agree with "he didn' tplay that well." If you're holding him to the standard of current lebron, kawhi, harden, kd, ect, then no. He played fine. low volume on effecient scoring and strong creation is absolutely acceptable for versatile two way bigs. KG/Duncan had plenty of games like this and no one accused them of "not playing well" after. Giannis isn't kobe bryant, and why his offense is stylistically liek shaq's, his overall profile is far closer to kg. If giannis was dropping 30 ppg on hyper-effiency while playing dpoy level defense and creating 13 chances for his teammates, that wouldn't be giannis "playing well" that would be giannis playing like the greatest playewr ever. Your standard for giannis is vastly higher than it is for his peers, and that doesn't make sense unless you see him as a vastly better player.
and we saw the same issues tonight that we've seen every time he's faced a competent playoff defense
See now "you didn't watch" is really hilarious because you clearly didn't watch last year's playoffs if you actually think this. The raptors were not a competent playoff defense, they were elite. The celtics were a good playoff defense and giannis utterly deciemated them. Against the raptors his primary issue was that his creation and his ineffeincy. Against the heat he created alot And he scored effiency.
His performance against the heat is far closer to his performance vs the celtics than the raptors, and the heat are far more like the celtics than the raptors defensively. How do you possibly get "giannis always struggles against competent defences" when literally the only piece of data supporting your point is one drastically different than the performance you're saying he didn't play well in.
The raptors series would completely disprove your conclusion here if you were making an accurate comparison.
And part of the reason the Bucks couldn't stop Butler is because the DPOY wouldn't take the assignment.
Giannis prevented butler layups three times, he stopped abedayo twice. Giannis is the DPOY because he protects the rim, which he did a perfectly good job of today, not because he subscribes to the stephen a smith school of "lock down yo man 1v1 every possession". How someone watches the game and didn't think giannis wasn't imapctful defensively is beyond me. The bucks' defense fell to pieces when he went off with them considering drive after drive.
Your analysis is off in just about every way. If you're going to be so reliant on the boxscore, then at the very least compare giannis's slashline to similarly styled players.
KG averaged 23 points, 4 assists, and 15 rebounds in arguably his best plaoff performance in 04. Are you going to tell me he "didn't play well"?
Giannis had a down game as a scorer, an up game as a playmaker, and held the par as a defender. I see no reason to think he played badly just because he didn't cross 20 ppg and made a few mistakes during a 5 minuite stretch. Giannis compley demolished a similar quality defence last year and that version of giannis wasn't capable of the passing giannis displayed today. Your conclusion is drawn from data that doesn't support it when held to scrutiny. I dont know if you watched the game, but your analysis of giannis's performance here is ****.
