RealGM Top 100 List #77

[ronnymac2]

I'm going to abstain from voting in this one.

Nominate: Deron Williams

I'm really liking Elton Brand though.

Also, Penbeast has made some compelling points about Shawn Marion. To be honest, I think Marion might be better than Bobby Jones.

[bastillon]

Jerry Lucas is another guy I don't think highly of, I think he's at 93 on my list, and in danger of dropping. bastillon has made a few posts mentioning Lucas and describes him as a glorified Troy Murphy, a guy who only cared about rebounding stats, thus giving up position and easy 2nd chance points to opposing big men...a poor defensive player, with a seemingly poor BB IQ. And he does poorly in the SIO numbers that ElGee posted.

+ Royals were notoriously an awful defensive team with Lucas playing about 45 mpg as a starting big man. I can't see how that can be overlooked. if big man is responsible for team performance on defense and he is playing as much as Lucas did, surely he deserves a lot of blame when team defense is that awful.

to give you an idea of how bad Lucas was, I think after he left Royals, he went to play with Thurmond who had just come back from injury (missed 40 games the year before) and bottomline Thurmonds defensive impact was invisible because with Lucas as the other big it balanced out. that team didn't improve defensively, anyway.

look at this quote from one of the RPOY threads:
"People began saying I was the only retired active player in
existence," Lucas said last week. A San Francisco observer
close to the Warriors put it more astringently before this
season began. "Until Lucas got here," he said, "I never
realized how good Oscar Robertson was. If Lucas played like
this in Cincinnati, then Oscar must have been carrying him on
his back into the All-Star game every year."

[penbeast0]

Bobby Jones finally gets in and we have an umpteen way tie for nomination. I could break it in favor of either Mel Daniels or Bill Sharman but with no one getting more than 1 vote, it's as far from consensus as is possible so I won't. No new nominee . . . .

VOTE:

Bobby Jones – penbeast0, Doctor MJ, therealbig3, David Stern

Shawn Kemp – JordansBulls

Hal Greer – Dr Mufasa

Jerry Lucas -- Laimbeer

Mark Price -- drza

NOMINATE:

Shawn Marion – penbeast0

Brad Daugherty -- JordansBulls

Jack Sikma – Dr Mufasa

Bill Sharman – Doctor MJ

Mel Daniels -- Laimbeer

Ben Wallace – DavidStern

Mark Price – drza

Deron Williams – ronnymac2

[drza]

My nomination was for Ben Wallace, not Mark Price. So unless I'm mistaken, shouldn't that mean Wallace gets the nomination?