All-Season Player of the Year Discussion thread

[PaulieWal]

1. Curry
2. Harden
3. Davis
4. Irving
5. Westbrook/CP3/Lebron

How is Irving better than Westbrook, CP or LeBron? I know you have been pushing the Irving > LeBron joke but LeBron has higher PPG, APG, RPG, better PER, WS/48, BPM, VORP, and equal WS. Come on, man. This is ridiculous.

[JordansBulls]

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He has the two highest scoring games of the season and it was at times where the Cavs needed to win those games that changed there flow.

[PaulieWal]

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He has the two highest scoring games of the season and it was at times where the Cavs needed to win those games that changed there flow.

What? That's your argument for Irving over LeBron that he had two highest scoring games of the season? You really are something else. By that "logic" Irving is the best player in the league. My bad for even thinking that you would be open to genuine discussion.

[HeartBreakKid]

Does this site have an ignore button?

[GSP]

Steph
Cp3
Davis
Lebron
Westbrook

The rest: Cousins, Harden, Aldridge, Marc, Kawhi

[JordansBulls]

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He has the two highest scoring games of the season and it was at times where the Cavs needed to win those games that changed there flow.

What? That's your argument for Irving over LeBron that he had two highest scoring games of the season? You really are something else. By that "logic" Irving is the best player in the league. My bad for even thinking that you would be open to genuine discussion.

It's a discussion thread not a final list. That's where I stand at the moment doesn't mean it will be that way by the end.

[bondom34]

Does this site have an ignore button?

Go to your profile and "add foe". But I'm assuming its for JB, in which case really to me its not worth it. We're all just along for the ride.

[PaulieWal]

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He has the two highest scoring games of the season and it was at times where the Cavs needed to win those games that changed there flow.

What? That's your argument for Irving over LeBron that he had two highest scoring games of the season? You really are something else. By that "logic" Irving is the best player in the league. My bad for even thinking that you would be open to genuine discussion.

It's a discussion thread not a final list. That's where I stand at the moment doesn't mean it will be that way by the end.

Don't try to hide behind that. This is just a part of your shctick, Irving literally has no argument over WB/CP/LeBron. Your tried to justify that with he had 2 great games lol in an 82 game season (not that Irving hasn't been good overall this season). Okay...

[Doctor MJ]

Guys make sure you keep it civil. As mentioned, there is a way to ignore posters you don't want to interact with. If you can't restrain yourself otherwise, do that.

~Doc

[Doctor MJ]

EDIT: Also, does Leonard have much support here? What can the playoffs do for him?

Actually pretty clear cut for me:

No way he's in the Top 5 right now, but quite literally anything can happen in the playoffs. And by that I mean - in theory any player who utterly dominates as the best player in the playoffs and wins the championship as a result can be my #1, but in Kawhi's case I truly won't be shocked if I end up voting him in my Top 5.

[SactoKingsFan]

Current top 5:

Curry
Harden
LeBron/Davis
Paul

Westbrook's also in the discussion. LeBron still has a shot at #1 and Harden could fall a few spots if he lays an egg in PS.

[Ballerhogger]

Current top 5
Curry
Harden
Westbrook
Davis
Lebron

[kingkirk]

Right now my top 5ish would look like this:

Curry
Harden
Paul/LeBron/Davis
RW

I need to breakdown the Paul/LeBron/Davis group.

Yeah, i agree with this. Picking between James, Davis & Paul is a tough one. It's near on impossible. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.

[PaulieWal]

Right now my top 5ish would look like this:

Curry
Harden
Paul/LeBron/Davis
RW

I need to breakdown the Paul/LeBron/Davis group.

Yeah, i agree with this. Picking between James, Davis & Paul is a tough one. It's near on impossible. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.

Yeah, this is all based on the RS anyway. A lot of these rankings will be switched around based on the playoffs. I do think the players will remain consistent even if the order gets moved around. The only player I see jumping into the top 5 solely based on playoff performance is Leonard if the Spurs win the title again and he's their clear-cut best player. Other than that I remain confident that we are going to be discussing the 6 guys on that list in some capacity.

[Clyde Frazier]

A regular season top 6 in no order of Curry, Harden, Paul, AD, LeBron and Westbrook seems pretty clear cut to me. I'd have to take some time to break it down in order, but I know a lot of them are fairly close as it is.

[CBA]

Right now:

Curry/Harden
Paul
Lebron
Davis

[Dr Spaceman]

Agree with the notion that Paul is the wild card. Honestly this is probably the 2nd or 3rd best regular season of his career, and he's never dropped off in the playoffs of late. The talking point has always been that he's being overlooked due to his consistency, but that's still right on the money to me. He's been gigantically impressive this season, and the Clippers are 2nd in SRS right now, really without the talent to justify it, and they're right in the thick of things in the Western Conference Playoffs.

I can definitely see a pretty tight case for both Harden and Curry, although I'm not actually convinced Harden is the better player. Paul can be a legitimate terror on defense, and it's always him who gets the toughest wing assignment come the ends of games. That's serious next-level stuff for a point guard. It's been noted that he's developed the midrange shot to the point where defenses have no good options to defend him. At all. They hardly missed Blake when he sat for a few weeks, and they've had injuries on and off all season and yet are looking at the #1 offense in bbalref ORTG, and I believe #2 on NBA.com

I see an airtight case for Curry at #1 due to his team's utter dominance and him being definitively the biggest cog in that, assuming he plays up to his usual level in the playoffs. But why not Paul at #2? Are you really sure you're not taking Harden because of the more dramatic story?

[Jaivl]

Right now,

#1 Curry
#2 Harden
#3 Paul
#4 James
#5 Davis

[E-Balla]

Agree with the notion that Paul is the wild card. Honestly this is probably the 2nd or 3rd best regular season of his career, and he's never dropped off in the playoffs of late. The talking point has always been that he's being overlooked due to his consistency, but that's still right on the money to me. He's been gigantically impressive this season, and the Clippers are 2nd in SRS right now, really without the talent to justify it, and they're right in the thick of things in the Western Conference Playoffs.

I can definitely see a pretty tight case for both Harden and Curry, although I'm not actually convinced Harden is the better player. Paul can be a legitimate terror on defense, and it's always him who gets the toughest wing assignment come the ends of games. That's serious next-level stuff for a point guard. It's been noted that he's developed the midrange shot to the point where defenses have no good options to defend him. At all. They hardly missed Blake when he sat for a few weeks, and they've had injuries on and off all season and yet are looking at the #1 offense in bbalref ORTG, and I believe #2 on NBA.com

I see an airtight case for Curry at #1 due to his team's utter dominance and him being definitively the biggest cog in that, assuming he plays up to his usual level in the playoffs. But why not Paul at #2? Are you really sure you're not taking Harden because of the more dramatic story?

Great post but didn't the Clippers go 8-7 without Blake? And remember this is the same team that went 13-7 without CP3 last year. I think Paul is getting too much credit and Blake/ the rest of the starting 5 not enough. As good as they were without Blake they're 12-2 since he's returned (counting their loss in his first game back) and yes there's been a ton of injuries but J.J Reddick is averaging 22 ppg since Jamal went down.

I don't see any way this regular season for Paul is better than 2008, 2009, or 2012 and he was just as good as he is this year the last 2 years (when he was healthy) even if his on/off suggests otherwise.

[cpower]

1. Curry
2. Davis
3. Harden
4. Westbrook
5. Paul
6. LeBron