Peaks Project #34

[E-Balla]

Question for the Love people: How can you put Love over McAdoo or Reed? He's great but those guys were MVPs.

Because that is an implicit judgement of a player's goodness via their team records, which is not consistent with how peaks have been selected. That's equivalent to saying Wade/T-Mac couldn't be selected before Nash/Dirk/Durant/Curry because the latter have MVPs...

Ok but statistically he isn't better than McAdoo and while he is better than Reed statistically I think Reed's large defensive edge puts him over the top. With Wade/T-Mac at least we had an obvious statistical difference. When I look at Love vs McAdoo I see two similar guys with similar strength supporting casts but one guy won more. When I see him vs Willis I see an obvious offensive advantage for Love but an even bigger defensive gap for Willis (who was still a very good offensive player).

[Narigo]

1. 1974 Bob Lanier
Second best player after Kareem Abdul Jabbar in 74. Has a good hookshot in the lowpost and has a solid jumper. He was a really solid passer. He was a excellent defender that anchored a better defense team(with a terrible supporting cast) than the Boston Celtics that had Hondo and Prime Cowens and the Bullets who had Unseld and Hayes.

2. 1969 Willis Reed
Im taking Reed over centers over Gilmore and Howard because imo he is a more capable scorer than both. Reed can shoot from the mid range area and he can also pretty good in the low post area as well. Probably not as good as Howard on defense but hes still above average on that end.

3. 1975 Artis Gilmore
Over 2015 Harden and 1959 Bob Pettt because he was more impactful defender. I explain more later

[trex_8063]

Thru post #22 (that's a little better):

Artis Gilmore - 7
Elgin Baylor - 5
Penny Hardaway - 4
Scottie Pippen - 4
Bob McAdoo - 4
Connie Hawkins - 3
Bob Lanier - 3
Rick Barry - 3
Kevin McHale - 2
Willis Reed - 2
Dominique Wilkins - 2
Kevin Love - 1
Jason Kidd - 1
John Stockton - 1

Again: target stop time is tomorrow morning.
btw Owly, as long as you're contributing discussion, would love to have ballots from you, too. I think the project's credibility benefits from your participation.

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[giordunk]

Wait... Kevin Love is getting consideration? I think Chris Webber deserves a mention.

[Clyde Frazier]

Short on time, just putting my ballots in:

Ballot #1 - 75 Gilmore
Ballot #2 - 63 Pettit
Ballot #3 - 61 Baylor

Explanation here: viewtopic.php?p=44900690#p44900690

Trex does a good job at summing up baylor, too. Will take a closer look at him vs. pettit in the next thread if he’s still on the board. Just didn’t have time the last couple of days.

[trex_8063]

Calling it for Gilmore.

Thru post #25:

Artis Gilmore - 10
Elgin Baylor - 6
Penny Hardaway - 4
Scottie Pippen - 4
Bob McAdoo - 4
Connie Hawkins - 3
Bob Lanier - 3
Rick Barry - 3
Kevin McHale - 2
Willis Reed - 2
Dominique Wilkins - 2
Bob Pettit - 2
Kevin Love - 1
Jason Kidd - 1
John Stockton - 1

Will have #35 up in a little while.

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