The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5)

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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#201 » by Run DLC » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:30 pm

As long Waiters know his role, he’ll be a nice spark for the Lakers off the bench. Waiters can get buckets, he just need to pick his spots and play within the offense without trying to go one-on-one all the time. Waiters, Caruso, Smith are going to provide most of the perimeter scoring off the bench. With LeBron being the only real consistent playmaker on the roster now, someone else will have to quarterback the second unit and get things organized, but I think LeBron is ready to do that if things get out of control and will want to play 40+ minutes per game in the playoffs as he should.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#202 » by KTM_2813 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:52 pm

Run DLC wrote:As long Waiters know his role, he’ll be a nice spark for the Lakers off the bench. Waiters can get buckets, he just need to pick his spots and play within the offense without trying to go one-on-one all the time. Waiters, Caruso, Smith are going to provide most of the perimeter scoring off the bench. With LeBron being the only real consistent playmaker on the roster now, someone else will have to quarterback the second unit and get things organized, but I think LeBron is ready to do that if things get out of control and will want to play 40+ minutes per game in the playoffs as he should.


Your last sentence there is the one I'm... Not worried about, but curious about. Vogel has a bit of a reputation for bad rotations in the playoffs. There will come a time when the Lakers will need LeBron and AD to play 40+ minutes, and will need to remove certain players from the rotation. I am anxious to see if Vogel does that, even if it means potentially disrupting the amazing team harmony that Los Angeles has built. Ultimately, I think that he will shorten the rotations and play guys the right number of minutes, but it's just something I'll be keeping an eye on.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#203 » by Bidofo » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:09 pm

Does anyone else not like Waiters? I don't know, he gives off the same goofball, low-iq vibes of old. I think his selfishness could rear its ugly head and cost them in the playoffs, so I'm hoping he doesn't get minutes.

Granted, I've seen literally like 3 possessions of his in the first scrim I think lol so I don't have the most tape on him. How is his defense? I find it very hard to believe he's any better than his mediocre stints everywhere else in his career, in fact he's probably worse.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#204 » by xb3at band1tx » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:22 pm

Bidofo wrote:Does anyone else not like Waiters? I don't know, he gives off the same goofball, low-iq vibes of old. I think his selfishness could rear its ugly head and cost them in the playoffs, so I'm hoping he doesn't get minutes.

Granted, I've seen literally like 3 possessions of his in the first scrim I think lol so I don't have the most tape on him. How is his defense? I find it very hard to believe he's any better than his mediocre stints everywhere else in his career, in fact he's probably worse.

His demeanor and attitude is not fit for a rebuilding team. You're right, he can be a bit selfish, but that also makes him fearless which could be important in the playoffs. With the structure of the current lakers team where there are clear roles from top to bottom, it may temper him a bit since he is around veterans 24/7.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#205 » by dcstanley » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:23 pm

Bidofo wrote:Does anyone else not like Waiters? I don't know, he gives off the same goofball, low-iq vibes of old. I think his selfishness could rear its ugly head and cost them in the playoffs, so I'm hoping he doesn't get minutes.

Granted, I've seen literally like 3 possessions of his in the first scrim I think lol so I don't have the most tape on him. How is his defense? I find it very hard to believe he's any better than his mediocre stints everywhere else in his career, in fact he's probably worse.

He's better than Rondo and has a skill-set this team could use but I can imagine a scenario where he hardly plays in the playoffs.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#206 » by nzahir » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:28 am

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Bidofo wrote:Does anyone else not like Waiters? I don't know, he gives off the same goofball, low-iq vibes of old. I think his selfishness could rear its ugly head and cost them in the playoffs, so I'm hoping he doesn't get minutes.

Granted, I've seen literally like 3 possessions of his in the first scrim I think lol so I don't have the most tape on him. How is his defense? I find it very hard to believe he's any better than his mediocre stints everywhere else in his career, in fact he's probably worse.

He's better than Rondo and has a skill-set this team could use but I can imagine a scenario where he hardly plays in the playoffs.

We have NOBODY else with his skill-set besides Lebron

You need guys who can break down the defense with penetration and then score or get good looks for other guys

His shooting has gotten better over the years and he can play some defense when he is locked in

I want him part of our rotation. If we got 10 guys total this should be it

KCP, DG, Lebron, AD, Mcgee
AC, Dion, 2 of [JR, Kuzma, Kieff] and Dwight

Cook and Rondo should be 12 and 13 or you could convince me go with Cook over JR or Kieff.

Kuzma is a wild card. If he is playing bad d, missing good looks, and jacking up shots, then he may not be ready for this moment

We need the best guys for us and a fit around Lebron and AD
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#207 » by Greyhound » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:06 am

nzahir wrote:
dcstanley wrote:
Bidofo wrote:Does anyone else not like Waiters? I don't know, he gives off the same goofball, low-iq vibes of old. I think his selfishness could rear its ugly head and cost them in the playoffs, so I'm hoping he doesn't get minutes.

Granted, I've seen literally like 3 possessions of his in the first scrim I think lol so I don't have the most tape on him. How is his defense? I find it very hard to believe he's any better than his mediocre stints everywhere else in his career, in fact he's probably worse.

He's better than Rondo and has a skill-set this team could use but I can imagine a scenario where he hardly plays in the playoffs.

We have NOBODY else with his skill-set besides Lebron

You need guys who can break down the defense with penetration and then score or get good looks for other guys

His shooting has gotten better over the years and he can play some defense when he is locked in

I want him part of our rotation. If we got 10 guys total this should be it

KCP, DG, Lebron, AD, Mcgee
AC, Dion, 2 of [JR, Kuzma, Kieff] and Dwight

Cook and Rondo should be 12 and 13 or you could convince me go with Cook over JR or Kieff.

Kuzma is a wild card. If he is playing bad d, missing good looks, and jacking up shots, then he may not be ready for this moment

We need the best guys for us and a fit around Lebron and AD

I think this team still goes 10 deep (even with LeBron playing 38-40 minutes and Davis around 36-38). Markieff will be needed. You might as well pencil him in the rotation.

JR will be a situational shooter/ COVID replacement.

I predict/ starting lineup:

KCP
Green
James
Davis
McGee

Bench:

Caruso
Waiters
Kuzma
Morris
Howard

Closing variations:

James
KCP (or whoever is hot)
Green (or KCP)
Morris (or if Kuzma is playing well)
Davis

———-

Caruso and Waiters complement each other well (skillet to skillset). I am interested to see how they play together on that second unit.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#208 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:19 pm

Kieff will likely be part of most Davis-at-5 lineups, he's a good small ball 4.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#209 » by MisterHibachi » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:24 pm

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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#210 » by KTM_2813 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:20 pm

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I know that the NBA wanted a bunch of marquee games in the bubble, so I understand why the Lakers schedule is so tough, but Jesus Christ... That's a murderer's row if I've ever seen one. :lol:
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#211 » by Homer38 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:27 pm

KTM_2813 wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:
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I know that the NBA wanted a bunch of marquee games in the bubble, so I understand why the Lakers schedule is so tough, but Jesus Christ... That's a murderer's row if I've ever seen one. :lol:



The first 7 games for the lakers are on national TV!

And it will be good for the lakers in their preparation for the playoffs.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#212 » by nzahir » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:30 pm

Greyhound wrote:
nzahir wrote:
dcstanley wrote:He's better than Rondo and has a skill-set this team could use but I can imagine a scenario where he hardly plays in the playoffs.

We have NOBODY else with his skill-set besides Lebron

You need guys who can break down the defense with penetration and then score or get good looks for other guys

His shooting has gotten better over the years and he can play some defense when he is locked in

I want him part of our rotation. If we got 10 guys total this should be it

KCP, DG, Lebron, AD, Mcgee
AC, Dion, 2 of [JR, Kuzma, Kieff] and Dwight

Cook and Rondo should be 12 and 13 or you could convince me go with Cook over JR or Kieff.

Kuzma is a wild card. If he is playing bad d, missing good looks, and jacking up shots, then he may not be ready for this moment

We need the best guys for us and a fit around Lebron and AD

I think this team still goes 10 deep (even with LeBron playing 38-40 minutes and Davis around 36-38). Markieff will be needed. You might as well pencil him in the rotation.

JR will be a situational shooter/ COVID replacement.

I predict/ starting lineup:

KCP
Green
James
Davis
McGee

Bench:

Caruso
Waiters
Kuzma
Morris
Howard

Closing variations:

James
KCP (or whoever is hot)
Green (or KCP)
Morris (or if Kuzma is playing well)
Davis

———-

Caruso and Waiters complement each other well (skillet to skillset). I am interested to see how they play together on that second unit.

I think this should be matchup dependent and maybe even who has been playing well

AC and Dion should be in that mix with Kieff and Kuzma. Maybe even JR if he is hot from 3

Kieff works well vs LAC though which is good, but this lineup has limited ball handlers

KCP on Lou
DG on PG
Lebron on Morris/Beverly
AD on Kawhi
Kieff on Trez

Kuzma has played some decent defense on wings who aren't too strong, I could see him doing some decent man work on PG. Not something I would think before the season started
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#213 » by nzahir » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:31 pm

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Pretty unfair schedule to us, our SOS should have been near the bottom, not at the top
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#214 » by mademan » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:42 pm

i wonder if Lebron is gonna pick on Lou today, or if he's just gonna be content playing regular offense and saving that for the playoffs.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#215 » by Homer38 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:46 pm

nzahir wrote:
Greyhound wrote:
nzahir wrote:We have NOBODY else with his skill-set besides Lebron

You need guys who can break down the defense with penetration and then score or get good looks for other guys

His shooting has gotten better over the years and he can play some defense when he is locked in

I want him part of our rotation. If we got 10 guys total this should be it

KCP, DG, Lebron, AD, Mcgee
AC, Dion, 2 of [JR, Kuzma, Kieff] and Dwight

Cook and Rondo should be 12 and 13 or you could convince me go with Cook over JR or Kieff.

Kuzma is a wild card. If he is playing bad d, missing good looks, and jacking up shots, then he may not be ready for this moment

We need the best guys for us and a fit around Lebron and AD

I think this team still goes 10 deep (even with LeBron playing 38-40 minutes and Davis around 36-38). Markieff will be needed. You might as well pencil him in the rotation.

JR will be a situational shooter/ COVID replacement.

I predict/ starting lineup:

KCP
Green
James
Davis
McGee

Bench:

Caruso
Waiters
Kuzma
Morris
Howard

Closing variations:

James
KCP (or whoever is hot)
Green (or KCP)
Morris (or if Kuzma is playing well)
Davis

———-

Caruso and Waiters complement each other well (skillet to skillset). I am interested to see how they play together on that second unit.

I think this should be matchup dependent and maybe even who has been playing well

AC and Dion should be in that mix with Kieff and Kuzma. Maybe even JR if he is hot from 3

Kieff works well vs LAC though which is good, but this lineup has limited ball handlers

KCP on Lou
DG on PG
Lebron on Morris/Beverly
AD on Kawhi
Kieff on Trez

Kuzma has played some decent defense on wings who aren't too strong, I could see him doing some decent man work on PG. Not something I would think before the season started



I wouldn't be surprised if LBJ wants to take the challenge against Kawhi ... It was the case in the last game against the clippers (and also against the bucks and Giannis the game before)

Of course, I don't think it would be for the entire game, but in key moment, it's a possibility.
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#216 » by nzahir » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:14 pm

mademan wrote:i wonder if Lebron is gonna pick on Lou today, or if he's just gonna be content playing regular offense and saving that for the playoffs.

Lou is out, you not keep up with what has happened?
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#217 » by nzahir » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:15 pm

Homer38 wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Greyhound wrote:I think this team still goes 10 deep (even with LeBron playing 38-40 minutes and Davis around 36-38). Markieff will be needed. You might as well pencil him in the rotation.

JR will be a situational shooter/ COVID replacement.

I predict/ starting lineup:

KCP
Green
James
Davis
McGee

Bench:

Caruso
Waiters
Kuzma
Morris
Howard

Closing variations:

James
KCP (or whoever is hot)
Green (or KCP)
Morris (or if Kuzma is playing well)
Davis

———-

Caruso and Waiters complement each other well (skillet to skillset). I am interested to see how they play together on that second unit.

I think this should be matchup dependent and maybe even who has been playing well

AC and Dion should be in that mix with Kieff and Kuzma. Maybe even JR if he is hot from 3

Kieff works well vs LAC though which is good, but this lineup has limited ball handlers

KCP on Lou
DG on PG
Lebron on Morris/Beverly
AD on Kawhi
Kieff on Trez

Kuzma has played some decent defense on wings who aren't too strong, I could see him doing some decent man work on PG. Not something I would think before the season started



I wouldn't be surprised if LBJ wants to take the challenge against Kawhi ... It was the case in the last game against the clippers (and also against the bucks and Giannis the game before)

Of course, I don't think it would be for the entire game, but in key moment, it's a possibility.

I can see that for some plays

Lebron needs to also conserve some energy though considering we have such limited playmaking

Its Lebron then Dion then AC
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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#218 » by Dupp » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:00 pm

Thoughts and prayers rondo doesn’t come back this season
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Post#219 » by Homer38 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:38 pm

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Re: The Lebron '20 Thread (Pt. 5) 

Post#220 » by MisterHibachi » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:34 am

AD playing well. Great to see
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