2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

[falcolombardi]

People always overreact to fiba ball relation to nba performance

Schroder or mills didnt become max contract players for having high usage games nor did giddey stop sucking ass for a decent few australia games

Is Murrays performance in 2024 that much different than his FIBA performance?

Yes?

He didnt play any game as bad as his france game in the last playoffs

[Colbinii]

People always overreact to fiba ball relation to nba performance

Schroder or mills didnt become max contract players for having high usage games nor did giddey stop sucking ass for a decent few australia games

Is Murrays performance in 2024 that much different than his FIBA performance?

Yes?

He didnt play any game as bad as his france game in the last playoffs

Game 2 and Game 6 vs Minnesota were close.

[eminence]

People always overreact to fiba ball relation to nba performance

Schroder or mills didnt become max contract players for having high usage games nor did giddey stop sucking ass for a decent few australia games

Is Murrays performance in 2024 that much different than his FIBA performance?

Yes?

He didnt play any game as bad as his france game in the last playoffs

Game 6 vs Minnesota was probably worse, though largely due to the bigger role than any level of play gap.

[LukaTheGOAT]

I foresee the Nuggets extending Murray after this, as they likely lack confidence in finding a replacement who offers a similar ceiling and a higher floor. They might consider accepting a lower ceiling for a higher floor, but the Nuggets' 2023 title win could paradoxically become their undoing. Having already won with Murray as their second option, they may be reluctant to take a different path. Additionally, it's uncertain how Jokic feels about Murray, but it’s possible that Jokic might not be entirely enamored with such a change.

I'm sure DLo will be available.

Very reasonable option, especially for his price come RS time. But we know the deal with Russell in the PS. Due to being one of the slowest guards in the league, he's one of the worst PS guards ever relative to the expectations he sets in the RS. Since he's cheaper you could maybe get someone else meaningful to fill in the gap. But he's in some ways Jamal Murray but without the ceiling Murray provides (at times) in the playoffs. He's purely a RS play in this scenario.

[Peregrine01]

Arguing that the Olympic performance effects his extension talks is like saying Tatum will get traded to the pistons for a a few second round picks lmao

I think it's the half-decade of being injured and him not looking any better after a flat postseason where they failed to repeat that's gonna do it more so than anything FIBA-specific. If anything affects it, that is.

He wasn't quick to begin with so it was alarming watching him get bottled up by non-NBA guards. A continuation of him not being able to get any separation against anyone in last year's playoffs. A bad omen for a guard.

[tsherkin]

Very reasonable option, especially for his price come RS time.

Not a good one for scoring, which is what the Nuggets need...

Russell is... not that good. And is HORRIFIC in the playoffs. He is to be avoided, even if he comes cheaply. I struggle to envision him doing well in Denver, even with Jokic's passing.

[tsherkin]

Arguing that the Olympic performance effects his extension talks is like saying Tatum will get traded to the pistons for a a few second round picks lmao

I think it's the half-decade of being injured and him not looking any better after a flat postseason where they failed to repeat that's gonna do it more so than anything FIBA-specific. If anything affects it, that is.

He wasn't quick to begin with so it was alarming watching him get bottled up by non-NBA guards. A continuation of him not being able to get any separation against anyone in last year's playoffs. A bad omen for a guard.

We'll see if he's able to get healthy, but yeah. We're like to see a fairly familiar RS, and then we'll see what happens come the playoffs, I guess. Jokic deserves a better second star. You don't rock dynasties with the talent he has around him, that much is clear.

[Peregrine01]

How much of Embiid’s game is due to nba officiating? This is a legitimate question at this point.

[Colbinii]

How much of Embiid’s game is due to nba officiating? This is a legitimate question at this point.

The NBA game is very different than FIBA.

Embiid was an MVP candidate before he became a foul-baiter.

[Colbinii]

Shout-out to Bogdanovic. Looks like prime Jamal Murray out there running the P&R with Jokic.

[jalengreen]

Peak

Generational Steph performance and amazing games from LeBron and Embiid. Thought basically everyone else left a bit to be desired, but it was enough. Shoutout Serbia for giving us a good game

[MyUniBroDavis]

How much of Embiid’s game is due to nba officiating? This is a legitimate question at this point.

Bro immediately starting cooking after you sent this

The Serbian guards not knowing how to miss threes was crazy

[jalengreen]

How much of Embiid’s game is due to nba officiating? This is a legitimate question at this point.

Bro immediately starting cooking after you sent this

The Serbian guards not knowing how to miss threes was crazy

Thought Embiid was pretty good even before that 4th q onslaught tbh. Thought it was clearly 1. Steph 2. LeBron 3. Embiid going into the 4th quarter. But yeah the 4th quarter was somethin else ofc

Absolutely shocked that one Serbian dude bricked the wide open 3 to make it a 5 pt game down the stretch

[Peregrine01]

How much of Embiid’s game is due to nba officiating? This is a legitimate question at this point.

Bro immediately starting cooking after you sent this

The Serbian guards not knowing how to miss threes was crazy

Great timing lol. He finally hit some middies against an exhausted Jokic playing on 4 fouls. I just think he's so engrained foul-baiting into his game that he just doesn't look like remotely the same player when he isn't getting those calls. Him falling all over the place with the slightest brush just looks comical.

[Colbinii]

How much of Embiid’s game is due to nba officiating? This is a legitimate question at this point.

Bro immediately starting cooking after you sent this

The Serbian guards not knowing how to miss threes was crazy

Great timing lol. He finally hit some middies against an exhausted Jokic playing on 4 fouls. I just think he's so engrained foul-baiting into his game that he just doesn't look like remotely the same player when he isn't getting those calls. Him falling all over the place with the slightest brush just looks comical.

Right but the thing is we saw Embiid play before he did this (foul draw) and he was still an MVP caliber player.

[Peregrine01]

Bro immediately starting cooking after you sent this

The Serbian guards not knowing how to miss threes was crazy

Great timing lol. He finally hit some middies against an exhausted Jokic playing on 4 fouls. I just think he's so engrained foul-baiting into his game that he just doesn't look like remotely the same player when he isn't getting those calls. Him falling all over the place with the slightest brush just looks comical.

Right but the thing is we saw Embiid play before he did this (foul draw) and he was still an MVP caliber player.

When was this? I can’t recall him ever not being a foul baiter.

[Colbinii]

Great timing lol. He finally hit some middies against an exhausted Jokic playing on 4 fouls. I just think he's so engrained foul-baiting into his game that he just doesn't look like remotely the same player when he isn't getting those calls. Him falling all over the place with the slightest brush just looks comical.

Right but the thing is we saw Embiid play before he did this (foul draw) and he was still an MVP caliber player.

When was this? I can’t recall him ever not being a foul baiter.

Embiid was always able to draw fouls, yes, because he was dominant in the NBA since his rookie year.

But the whole pump-fake and jump into a defender didn't really take over until 2022.

[Special_Puppy]

I foresee the Nuggets extending Murray after this, as they likely lack confidence in finding a replacement who offers a similar ceiling and a higher floor. They might consider accepting a lower ceiling for a higher floor, but the Nuggets' 2023 title win could paradoxically become their undoing. Having already won with Murray as their second option, they may be reluctant to take a different path. Additionally, it's uncertain how Jokic feels about Murray, but it’s possible that Jokic might not be entirely enamored with such a change.

Murray is a net negative on a $52 million a year contract. I'd try to get him to settle for something like 3 years $39 million a year or I'd trade him this off-season

[eminence]

Good effort from France, but not a good enough shooting performance from them to win a modern game. Steph put it to bed.

[ronnymac2]

Curry closed that thing and earned that gold medal. Maybe the second-best player of his generation and second-biggest draw as well. Fitting that the GOAT shooter had that type of epic performance.

Great Olympic play by Anthony Davis, whose defensive impact rivaled the value of the big names.

LeBron is obviously the NBA GOAT, but now he's solidifying his case for having the GOAT basketball career with his third gold medal. 39 year-old Olympian and may have been the best player on the team.

It really needs to be stated that the USA team, filled with NBA players, is at a disadvantage vs. every other team they face, and have been since 1992. It's literally a different ruleset, and these FIBA teams have continuity within that ruleset. We go in and basically delegitimize their ruleset by training guys up for a few weeks and decimating everybody.

Wemby is an excellent young player. I don't know how the laws work, but hopefully he can renounce his citizenship with France so he can play with a country and team that isn't second-class. They could have paired him with MVP Embiid but instead gave him low-IQ Gobert, no-minutes-on-the-Knicks Fournier, and dirty Batum. Super unlikable team.

Canada, South Sudan, and Serbia were awesome. Would like to see Victor join any of those three or the USA.

EDIT: Forgot to add it's great to see multi-national basketball legend Stephon "Stahbury" Marbury further growing the game and watching the Olympic competition.