The Lebron Thread (Pt. 3)

NaturalThunder · Post #221 » by **NaturalThunder** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:32 am

JulesWinnfield wrote:Lebron was absolutely terrible tonight. It's going to be 48 hours worth of talk about his poor play and Parkers hammy heading into game 4.

Unless it ends up being bad enough to keep him out of the game, the divide will be 90% LeBron's play and 10% Parker's hammy; maybe 95/5.

GetItDone · Post #222 » by **GetItDone** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:33 am

As a LeBron fan, that was one of the most pathetic efforts i've ever seen him play. 3 games now in a row. It's like 2011, but he's also just playing horribly. 2011 he was mostly just passive. Not he's just playing awful.

GSP · Post #223 » by **GSP** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:33 am

PCProductions wrote:
toodles23 wrote:Yeah, I'm not sure the Heat will even make it back to Miami at this point. Complete embarrassment for both the team and Lebron. I also wonder why Lebron's jumper always disappears late in the postseason, this is a trend now.

PCProductions wrote:Yeah I dunno what to say. Worse than 2011.

Why just 2011? It's the worst playoff series he's ever had up to this point.

Yeah to be honest I just had that in mind based on the justified criticism of it. 2007 was more of him being outmanned. This time, there's no excuse.

He was outmanned in 07 but he still played poorly. 35% shooting and 6tos a game is horrible

E-Balla · Post #224 » by **E-Balla** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:33 am

Pacers hit 100 a few times.

Also this was a bottom 5 game of his career. He was scared to shoot a jumper.

G35 · Post #225 » by **G35** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:33 am

therealbig3 wrote:LeBron's legacy is on the line again.

If he keeps this up, I don't think he's ever going to shake the monkey that will be on his back. He has to come through with some pretty monster performances if the Heat want to win.

And the Heat HAVE to win this series for LeBron to preserve his legacy. No matter what he does from game 4 onwards, if the Heat lose, LeBron's performance in games 1-3 are going to be a HUGE black mark for him.

It's a team game. It doesn't matter if the Heat win or not as long as Lebron plays well. I don't know why people rate players on how the team performs, I mean missing the playoff's three straight years doesn't affect how people look at KG......

NaturalThunder · Post #226 » by **NaturalThunder** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:33 am

GSP wrote:Has a team even scored 100 on Miami in that playoffs before this game?

I know it happened once in the Pacers series, but that's the only other game I can think of.

Wooderson · Post #227 » by **Wooderson** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:34 am

Part of the problem is MIA keeps looking to establish Bosh and Wade in the first 5 minutes of the game while LeBron barely touches the ball. The intent is obviously to get those two going after their previous struggles, but it seems to have backfired and thrown LeBron off his game (while the other two still continue to struggle).

More importantly though...

I'll echo the sentiment of questioning why LeBron refuses to post up. Dominates down there multiple possessions in a row in the 2nd quarter, resulting in layups for others and himself, and then proceeds to shy away from it the rest of the game. And it's not as if he's trying to establish down there and is being denied - most of the time he's just standing in the corner or waiting to receive the ball on the perimeter.

It's understandable that he's experiencing fatigue considering the heavy minutes and reliance on his play throughout the postseason, but if that's the case than give him a bit more rest throughout the game.

TheChosen618 · Post #228 » by **TheChosen618** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:35 am

GetItDone wrote:As a LeBron fan, that was one of the most pathetic efforts i've ever seen him play. 3 games now in a row. It's like 2011, but he's also just playing horribly. 2011 he was mostly just passive. Not he's just playing awful.

I had no problem with his effort honestly. It was just his passivenes and his bad play. He was actually alright in every other aspect of the game. It was his lack of aggression, scoring, and shooting that was pathetic.

I think Lebron will bounce back in Game 4, but if he doesn't then this series won't even go back to Miami.

therealbig3 · Post #229 » by **therealbig3** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:36 am

G35 wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:LeBron's legacy is on the line again.

If he keeps this up, I don't think he's ever going to shake the monkey that will be on his back. He has to come through with some pretty monster performances if the Heat want to win.

And the Heat HAVE to win this series for LeBron to preserve his legacy. No matter what he does from game 4 onwards, if the Heat lose, LeBron's performance in games 1-3 are going to be a HUGE black mark for him.

It's a team game. It doesn't matter if the Heat win or not as long as Lebron plays well. I don't know why people rate players on how the team performs, I mean missing the playoff's three straight years doesn't affect how people look at KG......

LOL, not surprised you missed the point. What does KG have to do with this?

LeBron will be justifiably criticized, because he played like crap and basically CAUSED the Heat to lose by not playing to his expected level. Not only because the Heat lose.

JulesWinnfield · Post #230 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:36 am

NaturalThunder wrote:
JulesWinnfield wrote:Lebron was absolutely terrible tonight. It's going to be 48 hours worth of talk about his poor play and Parkers hammy heading into game 4.

Unless it ends up being bad enough to keep him out of the game, the divide will be 90% LeBron's play and 10% Parker's hammy; maybe 95/5.

Well of course, Lebron always gets the lions share of attention especially coming off a performance like this. I think the Parker thing is something to monitor though, may not keep him out of the game but it could be something that hampers him, he didn't look as spry when he returned.

E-Balla · Post #231 » by **E-Balla** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:37 am

Well it worked until they tried to work Lebron in too. Bosh and Wade had great first halves (25/5/7 combined iirc).

E-Balla · Post #232 » by **E-Balla** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:37 am

Well it worked until they tried to work Lebron in too. Bosh and Wade had great first halves (25/5/7 combined iirc).

GSP · Post #233 » by **GSP** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:43 am

The Heat scored 8 straight with Lebron on the bench in the 2nd quarter. This team is erratic their gameplans are all over sometimes you need a player like Kobe who drifts from the gameplan by making shots and opening things up

GSP · Post #234 » by **GSP** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:44 am

Dime Update
The worst loss of MIA's LeBron era -- with their stars playing -- was a 30 point loss to the 2011 Spurs.

WOW......................

Basileus777 · Post #235 » by **Basileus777** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:44 am

Wooderson wrote:It's understandable that he's experiencing fatigue considering the heavy minutes and reliance on his play throughout the postseason, but if that's the case than give him a bit more rest throughout the game.

If LeBron is fatigued, why the hell did Spo play him 40 minutes in a blowout? He should have pulled him earlier.

nikomCH · Post #236 » by **nikomCH** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:46 am

Loving this, destroying everyone's dreams of this being the GOAT season

G35 · Post #237 » by **G35** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:49 am

therealbig3 wrote:
G35 wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:LeBron's legacy is on the line again.

If he keeps this up, I don't think he's ever going to shake the monkey that will be on his back. He has to come through with some pretty monster performances if the Heat want to win.

And the Heat HAVE to win this series for LeBron to preserve his legacy. No matter what he does from game 4 onwards, if the Heat lose, LeBron's performance in games 1-3 are going to be a HUGE black mark for him.

It's a team game. It doesn't matter if the Heat win or not as long as Lebron plays well. I don't know why people rate players on how the team performs, I mean missing the playoff's three straight years doesn't affect how people look at KG......

LOL, not surprised you missed the point. What does KG have to do with this?

LeBron will be justifiably criticized, because he played like crap. Not because the Heat lose.

Lol you don't know how you can easily spin this do you.

Lebron has a PER for the entire playoff's of 28.3 and a TS% of .601. That's the only argument someone will have to use 20 years from now to use "facts" against narrative.....

Ziggy Stardust · Post #238 » by **Ziggy Stardust** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:50 am

Lebron just isn't an all time great. The talent is there, but somethings missing....

Wooderson · Post #239 » by **Wooderson** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:51 am

Basileus777 wrote:
Wooderson wrote:It's understandable that he's experiencing fatigue considering the heavy minutes and reliance on his play throughout the postseason, but if that's the case than give him a bit more rest throughout the game.

If LeBron is fatigued, why the hell did Spo play him 40 minutes in a blowout? He should have pulled him earlier.

For some reason Spo keeps his starters in until 5 minutes are left in the 4th, regardless of what the score is. Makes no sense, but that's his thing. I question of lot of Spo's decisions. Why doesn't he push LeBron to post up more? Why does he let Wade continue to leave Danny Green wide open on the 3 point line? Why did it take so long to pull Battier in favor of Miller this post season?

I agree though, and that's why I wrote they should rest LBJ more. Better to have 35-38 minutes of LeBron in attack mode/posting up versus 42-45 minutes of him being passive, hanging on the perimeter.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #240 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:53 am

Ziggy Stardust wrote:Lebron just isn't an all time great. The talent is there, but somethings missing....

Yeah it's something missing with that guy. Don't see why some people think he can be top 5 of all time. He is missing that something that the true super elite all-time greats had. They loved pressure moments, Lebron runs away from the pressure.