The Stephen Curry Thread (2015-16 Pt. 1)

[Blue Horseshoe]

Steph's not really a point guard. He's a two guard who can pass much like Westbrook. Averaged 7.7 assists per game last year and only 6.0 this year. Not exactly Chris Paul/Steve Nash/Rajon Rondo territory. He's playing in an era that perfectly suits his talents. If he played in the '90's he'd be like Dana Barros on steroids.

Rajon Rondo doesnt belong withNash and Paul as far as playmakers go.

His volume assisting didnt scale up to great offenses even though he was working with pretty darn good parts

I meant that Curry wasn't a pure point guard like Rondo/Paul/Nash.

[giordunk]

Law of averages hitting really hard

Saying law of averages just shows a misunderstanding of statistics.

[RSCD3_]

Law of averages hitting really hard

Saying law of averages just shows a misunderstanding of statistics.

OK maybe not the rephrase, im allowed to say it's a bad game right?

[tsherkin]

Curry had what was for him a rough shooting night, for sure, RSCD.

Was still a 56.9% TS game, though!

Think about that. Drew 7 FTA on 18 FGA (.389 FTr) and was 6/8 below the arc. That's a bad game for Curry, this year.

[NyCeEvO]

He didn't shoot well, but the beauty of Curry is his gravity. Problem was, no one else was hitting shots either

That's the one thing that concerns me and I'm sure worries Warrior fans as well.

The Warriors go as Steph goes. There isn't a dependable 2nd option that will be there for Curry when he's not lighting it up.

Kyrie and Love have more than enough offensive firepower to carry the Cavs for stretches when LBJ isn't feeling it. When Curry isn't feeling it, it almost seems like a fortuitous hot streak needs to happen in order for the offense to roll without Curry being involved.

I think the primary reason the Warriors looked really bad at different points during the last postseason was due to Curry and the coaching staff trying to figure out ways to free up Steph since he's the key to the offense. Once they found ways, the Warriors started rolling again.

I don't mind most things revolving around Steph but it seems like they play with fire enough that (without having a dependable second option), they're fortunate to have not been burned yet.

[giordunk]

I sound like a petty loser (even though we won the game) but I feel like the Kings tweaked the rim or something. I refuse to believe the Warriors as a team shot that bad from 3.

[giordunk]

Steph just had a complete dud of a shooting game and is still comfortably in the high 40s.

[Onus]

Law of averages hitting really hard

Saying law of averages just shows a misunderstanding of statistics.

OK maybe not the rephrase, im allowed to say it's a bad game right?

A bad game for Curry is 24 pts on 57% TS , that's crazy. He really did have what seemed like a horrible game for him and he still wasn't as bad as it seemed.

[Onus]

He didn't shoot well, but the beauty of Curry is his gravity. Problem was, no one else was hitting shots either

That's the one thing that concerns me and I'm sure worries Warrior fans as well.

The Warriors go as Steph goes. There isn't a dependable 2nd option that will be there for Curry when he's not lighting it up.

Kyrie and Love have more than enough offensive firepower to carry the Cavs for stretches when LBJ isn't feeling it. When Curry isn't feeling it, it almost seems like a fortuitous hot streak needs to happen in order for the offense to roll without Curry being involved.

I think the primary reason the Warriors looked really bad at different points during the last postseason was due to Curry and the coaching staff trying to figure out ways to free up Steph since he's the key to the offense. Once they found ways, the Warriors started rolling again.

I don't mind most things revolving around Steph but it seems like they play with fire enough that (without having a dependable second option), they're fortunate to have not been burned yet.

I somewhat agree with this. Klay is supposed to be that 2nd option but he's just so streaky, I know the FO wants Barnes to become that 2nd option as well at some point but he's never really shown it but in short burst in a single game. Eh it's really a score by committee after Steph. They really don't have anyone who you can rely on to get a bucket or draw a foul after Steph. But Steph is so great he can still lead a top tier offense with out a reliable playmaker next to him.

[RSCD3_]

Saying law of averages just shows a misunderstanding of statistics.

OK maybe not the rephrase, im allowed to say it's a bad game right?

A bad game for Curry is 24 pts on 57% TS , that's crazy. He really did have what seemed like a horrible game for him and he still wasn't as bad as it seemed.

He turned it around late but he still had 3 assists and 6 turnovers

That's not to be brushed over lightly. All things considered it was an OK game for an all star PG

[Onus]

OK maybe not the rephrase, im allowed to say it's a bad game right?

A bad game for Curry is 24 pts on 57% TS , that's crazy. He really did have what seemed like a horrible game for him and he still wasn't as bad as it seemed.

He turned it around late but he still had 3 assists and 6 turnovers

That's not to be brushed over lightly. All things considered it was an OK game for an all star PG

Don't get me wrong I thought he had a horrible game, but just taking a 2nd look at it and apparently it wasn't as bad as it seemed.

[bballexpert]

His bad games are still better then most people in the nba i mean 24 points on that shooting is bad then he better then we thought. I will say this him always being able to turn it on in the last quarter is a really good trait to have.

[JLei]

KCP has done a really good job on him. Really good and they are showing hard/ blitzing every screen (which is why Drummond looks like he's going to keel over from exerting too much effort). However KCPs ability to get over/ avoid the screens has been really spot in.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

He didn't shoot well, but the beauty of Curry is his gravity. Problem was, no one else was hitting shots either

That's the one thing that concerns me and I'm sure worries Warrior fans as well.

The Warriors go as Steph goes. There isn't a dependable 2nd option that will be there for Curry when he's not lighting it up.



I think the primary reason the Warriors looked really bad at different points during the last postseason was due to Curry and the coaching staff trying to figure out ways to free up Steph since he's the key to the offense. Once they found ways, the Warriors started rolling again.

I don't mind most things revolving around Steph but it seems like they play with fire enough that (without having a dependable second option), they're fortunate to have not been burned yet.

I don't feel that way. The warriors offense looked vulnerable in the playoffs when they played more normal NBA / Mark Jackson offense. When the Warriors played Kerr/ Jentry moving and passing offense they are very difficult to stop. The Warriors have more playmakers than most teams. When the passing is right the entire team becomes a good 2nd option.

The Warriors were the youngest and least playoff experienced champion since the 1977 Blazers. With another year playing together and playing for Kerr I think running the Warriors passing offense will be automatic by playoff time. Facing teams in the regular season getting up for the Warriors and playing good defense against the Warriors will help the Warriors know how to run their offense against playoff pressure.

Klay Thompson may or may not be a good 2nd option. Sometimes Klay looks like a good 1st option and sometimes Klay looks more like a 4th option.

The Warriors don't mind Steph Curry being doubled or trippled because If Curry gets rid of the ball the rest of the team is playing 4 on 3 and they are good enough passers to exploit a 4 on 3.

[Clyde Frazier]

Even with back to back down games efficiency-wise, curry's WS/48 min is at .446 thru 8 games

* Highest single season WS/48 is Kareem in 71-72 at .340
* Highest single season WS/48 post merger is LeBron in 12-13 at .322 (Jordan right behind in 90-91 at .321)
* Curry finished last season at a league leading .288

[Blue Horseshoe]

Even with back to back down games efficiency-wise, curry's WS/48 min is at .446 thru 8 games

* Highest single season WS/48 is Kareem in 71-72 at .340
* Highest single season WS/48 post merger is LeBron in 12-13 at .322 (Jordan right behind in 90-91 at .321)
* Curry finished last season at a league leading .288

Any stat thru the first eight games of the season is meaningless to project. They're a couple of players currently shooting 100% from the charity stripe. That's like saying "if he keeps this up he'll shatter every free throw record ever."

[tsherkin]

Even with back to back down games efficiency-wise, curry's WS/48 min is at .446 thru 8 games

* Highest single season WS/48 is Kareem in 71-72 at .340
* Highest single season WS/48 post merger is LeBron in 12-13 at .322 (Jordan right behind in 90-91 at .321)
* Curry finished last season at a league leading .288

Any stat thru the first eight games of the season is meaningless to project. They're a couple of players currently shooting 100% from the charity stripe. That's like saying "if he keeps this up he'll shatter every free throw record ever."

Right, but in fairness, this is indeed a thread to discuss what's going on. Constrain yourself to the given sample as you like, that's just sensible, the fact remains that he has played so well that even a couple of mortal-looking games still leave him kicking in the teeth of the league.

It needs be mentioned that in the first 6 games, his lowest TS% was the 63.5% he posted in the season opener. He's been much quieter for two games, but he's going to burst again, and soon. He was 3/7 from 3 last game (42.9%) but struggled below the arc against the Pistons. Watch for another bigger game in the next couple, because it's coming.

[Clyde Frazier]

Even with back to back down games efficiency-wise, curry's WS/48 min is at .446 thru 8 games

* Highest single season WS/48 is Kareem in 71-72 at .340
* Highest single season WS/48 post merger is LeBron in 12-13 at .322 (Jordan right behind in 90-91 at .321)
* Curry finished last season at a league leading .288

Any stat thru the first eight games of the season is meaningless to project. They're a couple of players currently shooting 100% from the charity stripe. That's like saying "if he keeps this up he'll shatter every free throw record ever."

Right, but notice nowhere did I say that I think he'll finish the season at ~.446 WS/48. I was merely pointing out just how hot his start has been. Also, plenty of players start the season at 100% from the line. The # of guys posting a WS/48 figure this high is much lower, so the comparison isn’t really analogous.

And I think it’s specifically noteworthy because Curry led the league in WS/48 last season, so it’s plausible that he may finish even higher this year. Not as if it’s some random average player, so there’s a significant sample size backing it up.

[BScoreez]

Curry can shoot the deep three, but he has actually been working on extending his range out way past the three point line this season. He literally practices it pregame and now takes it like a normal shot during some of the games.

[whitehops]

KCP did a fantastic job on curry last night, he was essentially glued to him all night. he was denying, fighting through the hundreds of screens GS runs, putting ball pressure on when curry was dribbling.

the thing though, is that when you pay that much attention to one player it compromises the team D to an extent. the rest of the warriors were moving the ball and got a ton of open looks, and the pistons having one less player to help with rotations certainly helped that.


i think that just shows the impact curry has, even when he has a subpar game in terms of shooting/scoring his team is in a good position.