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Colbinii wrote:AEnigma wrote:Colbinii wrote:Minnesota also is improving because they actually will have McDaniels and ANT approaching his Prime where he will be a Top 2-3 SG in the NBA
And you just grabbed a guy who will be a top ten player in this class!
lol someone active on the draft board had him #4
Colbinii wrote:Chet Holmgren moves fluid for a guy his size. Wemby looks like a guard compared to Chet.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
homecourtloss wrote:Colbinii wrote:Chet Holmgren moves fluid for a guy his size. Wemby looks like a guard compared to Chet.
I really like Chet and his motor and competitiveness. I can see him as a plus player from day one and if he stays healthy and continues to get stronger he has everything he needs to be to be a +5 or greater type of player.
Mogspan wrote:I think they see the super rare combo of high IQ with freakish athleticism and overrate the former a bit, kind of like a hot girl who is rather articulate being thought of as “super smart.” I don’t know kind of a weird analogy, but you catch my drift.
rk2023 wrote:homecourtloss wrote:Colbinii wrote:Chet Holmgren moves fluid for a guy his size. Wemby looks like a guard compared to Chet.
I really like Chet and his motor and competitiveness. I can see him as a plus player from day one and if he stays healthy and continues to get stronger he has everything he needs to be to be a +5 or greater type of player.
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Chet has been a lights out rim protector so far in summer league. With the added lower body strength, attention to detail, and still fluid movement - I think he could step in right away and become a stellar defensive anchor. I would say Mobley has been the best defensive rookie since Tim Duncan, I'm hoping Chet & Wembanyama both could give both players a run for their money in terms of value added. When's the last time (if any) the league has seen three sky-high ceiling young prospects on the defensive end in back-to-back-to-back drafts? [rhetorically asking]
rk2023 wrote:Chet has been a lights out rim protector so far in summer league. With the added lower body strength, attention to detail, and still fluid movement - I think he could step in right away and become a stellar defensive anchor. I would say Mobley has been the best defensive rookie since Tim Duncan, I'm hoping Chet & Wembanyama both could give both players a run for their money in terms of value added. When's the last time (if any) the league has seen three sky-high ceiling young prospects on the defensive end in back-to-back-to-back drafts? [rhetorically asking]
AEnigma wrote:rk2023 wrote:Chet has been a lights out rim protector so far in summer league. With the added lower body strength, attention to detail, and still fluid movement - I think he could step in right away and become a stellar defensive anchor. I would say Mobley has been the best defensive rookie since Tim Duncan, I'm hoping Chet & Wembanyama both could give both players a run for their money in terms of value added. When's the last time (if any) the league has seen three sky-high ceiling young prospects on the defensive end in back-to-back-to-back drafts? [rhetorically asking]
May be rhetorical but the answer is still “not since Tim Duncan”: 1995 had Garnett, 1996 had Camby, and 1997 had Duncan.
2004/05 had promise for three in a row but there was no third player to complete the Dwight/Bogut starting point.
Mogspan wrote:I think they see the super rare combo of high IQ with freakish athleticism and overrate the former a bit, kind of like a hot girl who is rather articulate being thought of as “super smart.” I don’t know kind of a weird analogy, but you catch my drift.
AEnigma wrote:rk2023 wrote:Chet has been a lights out rim protector so far in summer league. With the added lower body strength, attention to detail, and still fluid movement - I think he could step in right away and become a stellar defensive anchor. I would say Mobley has been the best defensive rookie since Tim Duncan, I'm hoping Chet & Wembanyama both could give both players a run for their money in terms of value added. When's the last time (if any) the league has seen three sky-high ceiling young prospects on the defensive end in back-to-back-to-back drafts? [rhetorically asking]
May be rhetorical but the answer is still “not since Tim Duncan”: 1995 had Garnett, 1996 had Camby, and 1997 had Duncan.
2004/05 had promise for three in a row but there was no third player to complete the Dwight/Bogut starting point.
“I find it sort of a little bit boring,” Falk said in an interview with Howard Beck of GQ.
“I don't think free agency is dying,” said Falk. “I think that as the rules become more and more restrictive, it’s more and more difficult to be creative.”
Falk laments the rules the NBA has implemented in which many contracts are for set amounts such as the supermax, max, rookie scales and midlevel exceptions.
“The nature of being an agent, it's become so restrictive that it doesn't require a lot of skills,” Falk said. “Mathematically, only 30 percent of the contracts are negotiated. And I think that most players really don't need agents today.”
Falk believes the max contract creates situations where truly great players are underpaid and many All-Stars are paid at the same level of the superstars.
“The system becomes so clogged by a whole group of grossly overpaid players that don't bring in revenues, don't sell tickets, don't sell concessions,” Falk said. “They're good players, but they're artificially overpaid, because of the foolish restraint in the system.”
“How do you differentiate Curry from Klay Thompson?” Falk continued. “How do you differentiate Giannis [Antetokounmpo] from Middleton? How do you differentiate [Jayson] Tatum from [Jaylen] Brown? You know, that's the whole point. They created a system where it's like gross homogenization. For me, that took all my excitement away from being in this business because you can't differentiate yourself.”
Falk also believes player empowerment was as strong in the 1990s as it is now, but it is wielded differently.
“You don't think Michael Jordan and Patrick had power?” Falk said. “Of course, they had power. But they were smart enough to know that they would never do those kinds of things publicly, because it was inimical to the game that they love.”
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LookToShoot wrote:Melo is the only player that makes the Rockets watchable for the basketball purists. Otherwise it would just be three point shots and pick n roll.
eminence wrote:Agents might not be super necessary for the actual basketball contracts as that's simplified (still pretty necessary, players would get worked on deals without them), but players absolutely need agents for all their other bookings/endorsements/etc.
LookToShoot wrote:Melo is the only player that makes the Rockets watchable for the basketball purists. Otherwise it would just be three point shots and pick n roll.
AEnigma wrote:rk2023 wrote:Chet has been a lights out rim protector so far in summer league. With the added lower body strength, attention to detail, and still fluid movement - I think he could step in right away and become a stellar defensive anchor. I would say Mobley has been the best defensive rookie since Tim Duncan, I'm hoping Chet & Wembanyama both could give both players a run for their money in terms of value added. When's the last time (if any) the league has seen three sky-high ceiling young prospects on the defensive end in back-to-back-to-back drafts? [rhetorically asking]
May be rhetorical but the answer is still “not since Tim Duncan”: 1995 had Garnett, 1996 had Camby, and 1997 had Duncan.
2004/05 had promise for three in a row but there was no third player to complete the Dwight/Bogut starting point.
RCM88x wrote:Good, agents shouldn't exist, they are just middlemen who exploit the earnings of others.
AEnigma wrote:rk2023 wrote:Chet has been a lights out rim protector so far in summer league. With the added lower body strength, attention to detail, and still fluid movement - I think he could step in right away and become a stellar defensive anchor. I would say Mobley has been the best defensive rookie since Tim Duncan, I'm hoping Chet & Wembanyama both could give both players a run for their money in terms of value added. When's the last time (if any) the league has seen three sky-high ceiling young prospects on the defensive end in back-to-back-to-back drafts? [rhetorically asking]
May be rhetorical but the answer is still “not since Tim Duncan”: 1995 had Garnett, 1996 had Camby, and 1997 had Duncan.
2004/05 had promise for three in a row but there was no third player to complete the Dwight/Bogut starting point.
RCM88x wrote:Good, agents shouldn't exist, they are just middlemen who exploit the earnings of others.
Mogspan wrote:I think they see the super rare combo of high IQ with freakish athleticism and overrate the former a bit, kind of like a hot girl who is rather articulate being thought of as “super smart.” I don’t know kind of a weird analogy, but you catch my drift.
Peregrine01 wrote:Doc already got fired and made to be the scapegoat.
Mogspan wrote:I think they see the super rare combo of high IQ with freakish athleticism and overrate the former a bit, kind of like a hot girl who is rather articulate being thought of as “super smart.” I don’t know kind of a weird analogy, but you catch my drift.
