2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2401 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:04 pm

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1. Want players/teams to take RS seriously. A Nets win says that is stupid. Teams will start considering resting their stars for a majority of games.
2. Want teams to take coaching seriously. A Nets win says that is stupid.
3. Want teams to take teambuilding seriously beyond spamming superstars. A Nets win says that is stupid.


As opposed to how teams already rest their stars? Remember Pops?

I think this take is perhaps a shade hyperbolic, though I see the concern. In the end, though, teams do this in one fashion or another already. The regular season is a long grind and there is a point after which you receive diminishing returns on RS record, so why go that hard as long as you secure the seed you're after?


Differences of degree matter just as much as difference of kind.

The Nets are a new rubicon. They didn't treat the RS seriously at all. A deep playoff run will result in other teams adopting this attitude just as Pop made the 75+ games played basically obselete.

I genuinelly think if the Nets won a title the NBA would be forced to move to a 40 game schedule within 10 years because stars just won't play games at all.

In math terms, I think a deep Nets playoff run will result in a significant number of stars who want 30 game work schedules. Since the Nets gave Kyrie everything he wanted and it resulted in a title it will spread through the league
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Post#2402 » by falcolombardi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:09 pm

that was a wild ending

props to boston for looking for the lay up and not settling into a jumpshot as the clock ran down
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Post#2403 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:10 pm

TATUM IS A GOD

KYRIE IS A GOD
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Post#2404 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:10 pm

Thank god Celtics hung on. The Nets are as loathsome as any club since the early 00s Blazers and those guys didn't generate systemic risks.
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Post#2405 » by falcolombardi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:22 pm

it waa a fun game
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Post#2406 » by 70sFan » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:43 pm

Tatum played specatcular game, including game winner. He completely outplayed KD on both ends of the floor.

It was a fun game indeed, I'm not sure how much to expect from Nets though. Celtics would likely make adjustments and I'm not sure what else Nets can do - other than KD shooting better.
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Post#2407 » by jalengreen » Sun Apr 17, 2022 10:57 pm

absolutely horrific game from KD.. im livid if im kyrie.

also so remarkable how nba players are able to excel during ramadan. hakeem in the past and now these kyrie performances.. dude couldnt drink/eat for an hour after the game. imagine how exhausted he must be and he can't hydrate at all
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2408 » by jalengreen » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:00 pm

falcolombardi wrote:that was a wild ending

props to boston for looking for the lay up and not settling into a jumpshot as the clock ran down


i really thought smart was gonna shoot that (and so did the nets lol). good thing he didnt
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2409 » by tsherkin » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:21 pm

Fadeaway_J wrote:Also, the Nets didn't decide not to take the regular season seriously. One of their stars got injured, another refused to get vaccinated, and the third dogged his way into a trade.


Indeed, that's fair enough.

sp6r=underrated wrote:Differences of degree matter just as much as difference of kind.

The Nets are a new rubicon. They didn't treat the RS seriously at all. A deep playoff run will result in other teams adopting this attitude just as Pop made the 75+ games played basically obselete.

I genuinelly think if the Nets won a title the NBA would be forced to move to a 40 game schedule within 10 years because stars just won't play games at all.

In math terms, I think a deep Nets playoff run will result in a significant number of stars who want 30 game work schedules. Since the Nets gave Kyrie everything he wanted and it resulted in a title it will spread through the league


That's certainly an interesting projection, I guess. It didn't happen after either lockout or the bubble, so I'm wondering why you think this is the time where it'll happen?
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2410 » by falcolombardi » Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:33 pm

i insist most of the problem comes from back to back games

cut a few games or change the schedule in a way to cut them away and you will see a much smaller need for load managing
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Post#2411 » by letskissbro » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:38 am

DeRozan is the worst playoff performer of all time
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Post#2412 » by falcolombardi » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:10 am

bukls vs bulks has been a intetesting game

caruso is a insane guard defender, at some point he was straight up dominating with steals, deflections, charges and good reads in seemingly every possesion, i actually think bulls wasted a trascendent role player game by alex

giannis has grown so much as a passer, he now makes the right reads most often when swarmed or doubled it takes him a half/full second more compared to someone like jokic but he does. that is a diferentiator between him and embiid who is more likely to take a hard double teamed shot or panic and make a bad pass

caruso and bulls totally shut down regular passing lanes for bucks, but bucks totslly locked down the interior, bulls bad shooting down the stretch ruined their great effort as they wasted a lot of of beatiful plays by bricking open jumpers

brook lopez is still a fantastic defender and a strong scorer whenever bucks go to him

derozan was antartica cold, hopefully just this game, i am rooting for him to shake off his choker rep

lavine, middleton and jrue didnr have the most brilliant games

vucevic was good but also started missing some bsck breaking open jumpers late in the game that hurt chicago, couldnt stop or deal with lopez in the paint either

grayson allen passing was really bad, dude needs to show he is more than a spot up shooterfor the bucks and clean his passing, i dont know how you mess a fastbreak pass to giannis like that, dude has a half court catch radius

like jevon carter defense amd hustle for bucks

coby white seems a skilled player

overall i think chicago dropped this really badly, this was a great effort they couldnt capitalize on
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2413 » by eminence » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:12 am

It was a good game, and has me looking forward to the rest of the series.

I too hope DeRozan can shake his labels a bit.
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Post#2414 » by falcolombardi » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:26 am

Read on Twitter
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interesting, what do you think?
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Post#2415 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:20 am

Jeez, it's 4th quarter in Pelicans vs Suns and Chris Paul is beating their asses.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2416 » by jalengreen » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:49 am

cp3 should not be this good at 36.. unbelievable. he's unstoppable in the clutch
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Post#2417 » by sp6r=underrated » Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:58 am

jalengreen wrote:cp3 should not be this good at 36.. unbelievable. he's unstoppable in the clutch


Paul is the first little man to be this effective late into his career since Stockton. Most little men are complete trash by this age. Hell it is freakish to have guys their age even playing at this time.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2418 » by falcolombardi » Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:21 am

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jalengreen wrote:cp3 should not be this good at 36.. unbelievable. he's unstoppable in the clutch


Paul is the first little man to be this effective late into his career since Stockton. Most little men are complete trash by this age. Hell it is freakish to have guys their age even playing at this time.


he is arguably the most skilled player of all time all thinghs considered (defense skill, handles, passing, shooting)

i wouldnt mind him winning a ring so he gets a bit more respect lol
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2419 » by GSP » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:05 am

letskissbro wrote:DeRozan is the worst playoff performer of all time


He truly is.....like statistically you can easily make that claim.....hes so bad
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2420 » by ardee » Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:31 am

falcolombardi wrote:
Read on Twitter
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interesting, what do you think?


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