The LeBron James All-NBA (2nd) and Luka Doncic - 24-25 Thread

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Post#2421 » by IG2 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:56 pm

Ian Scuffling wrote:Man, what a terrible time for Lebron to be coming back from an injury, especially a core/groin injury. He was so good pre-injury and if he was still there, I wouldn't be concerned about this round. But, obviously not the case. Not sure there's much chance of him being able to get better that quickly at this age.


He actually didn't look bad yesterday. I was concerned going into the game because of his little groin injury in the last regular season game he played, but his mobility was just fine last night. He didn't have a good game but I'd credit a lot of that to Minnesota's D. Big, strong, athletic teams are just not a good matchup for an old ass LeBron. His 3 ball needs to be falling for him to have a good scoring game.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet that I thought played a role in LeBron's off night and LA's offense in general looking so stagnant is how Luka iso heavy the offense was in the 1st qtr. It was basically him going 1-on-1 every possession. Now he made most of his shots because he's so damn good, but I thought that really iced out the rest of the team.
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Post#2422 » by dcstanley » Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:36 pm

tone wone wrote:Don't know what's more concerning the defense or the offense. Butt-kicking from the 2n qtr on.

LA's defense invites a lot of 3's. Minnys a good 3pt shooting team. They were gonna have a hot game or 2 in this series but man, game 1.

Offensively, just 15ast total. Luka-Lebron-Reaves 7ast to 11to's.

Just a complete wipe out.

Lakers had a 98 DRTG in the half-court, they were obliterated in transition. Better offense = less transition opportunities.

The offense has to be bordering on elite for this team to have a chance.
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Post#2423 » by Ian Scuffling » Mon Apr 21, 2025 2:18 pm

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Ian Scuffling wrote:Man, what a terrible time for Lebron to be coming back from an injury, especially a core/groin injury. He was so good pre-injury and if he was still there, I wouldn't be concerned about this round. But, obviously not the case. Not sure there's much chance of him being able to get better that quickly at this age.


He actually didn't look bad yesterday. I was concerned going into the game because of his little groin injury in the last regular season game he played, but his mobility was just fine last night. He didn't have a good game but I'd credit a lot of that to Minnesota's D. Big, strong, athletic teams are just not a good matchup for an old ass LeBron. His 3 ball needs to be falling for him to have a good scoring game.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet that I thought played a role in LeBron's off night and LA's offense in general looking so stagnant is how Luka iso heavy the offense was in the 1st qtr. It was basically him going 1-on-1 every possession. Now he made most of his shots because he's so damn good, but I thought that really iced out the rest of the team.


Don't disagree about Luka at all. A great scoring game for him, but not a great offensive game. Things seemed disjointed from the beginning. Also, agree that James didn't look "bad", but obviously they need him to be good for them to have a chance. On to game 2.
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Post#2424 » by TroubleS0me » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:17 am

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Post#2425 » by Joao Saraiva » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:03 am

Must win now for LA. What a way to start... with a loss at home. Time to see what they're made of
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Post#2426 » by Joao Saraiva » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:07 am

LukaMagic55 wrote:Reading the GB thread, just some utterly wild, inane takes. Someone said ANT outplayed Luka. Let’s be very, very clear here…Luka was EASILY the best player on the floor. He came out, punched the T-Wolves in the mouth, built up a nice first quarter lead, then the second he went to the bench, the Lakers immediately squandered that lead he built up (which has been a reoccurring them since the trade).

Luka played fantastic. On the switches, he actually played good D on ANT…ANT just hit a couple tough, contested jumpers, which he’ll do. That wasn’t the issue. The issue was Randle, McDaniels, and Reid combining to go 13-18 from three. There’s a word for that. A couple, really. Anomalous, flukey, and my preferred, bull. Reid is a good shooter, 38%. McDaniels and Randle aren’t (33 and 34%). So all three shooting way out of their minds, all on the same night, is bull. It’s that simple. And no, it’s because they were open.

A. A lot of them were contested.

B. Teams give Randle and McDaniels open threes. There’s a reason for that. This wasn’t some new thing.

Minny won’t have that fluke shooting every game. What’s more concerning is that LeBron and Reaves were flat out terrible. Just horrendous. They have to bring something to the table.

What’s wild to me is the way Luka gets treated here and in the media. The entire Denver-LA thread was saying Jokic needs help (even though Gordon, Westbrook, and Braun played really damn well), and the Lakers-Minny thread is mostly people somehow bashing Luka when I’m not really sure what more he could have done. Scored at will, set the tone (which they blew once he sat), got guys good looks (which they missed), and played solid D.

I have complete faith in Luka to keep playing great. Don’t forget, both the Clippers and OKC won game 1 last year against the Mavs. But I’m concerned about the rest of that Lakers team showing up.


Luka was fine. He just can't win it all by himself. But he did what he was supposed to. LA just didn't get any shot to go, played bad transition defense and yeah the 3s were just going in.

Luka overall is a top 3 player in the NBA, so it's not really news he played very well. At this point it's more about what the role player can and can't hit and Bron finding his shot and see how much that injury is nagging him.

I fullly expect a win in game 2 but let's see.
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Post#2427 » by tone wone » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:13 pm

Nervous about tonight. Just hard to feel confident after that performance. Home game 1s aren't supposed to be blowout losses. Add in Minny (with Rudy) being LeBron's krytonite....not one legit strong game offensively in 3yrs, I just don't know.
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Post#2428 » by trickshot » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:51 pm

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Post#2429 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:59 am

Don't have enough offense with Reaves playing this bad
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Post#2430 » by dcstanley » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:32 am

Rui and Hayes are two of the lowest IQ players in the playoffs. Hard to be a serious team when these two are starters.

Doesn't help that Lebron looks outmatched physically.
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Post#2431 » by jalengreen » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:35 am

Reaves learn how to throw a lob for the love of god
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Post#2432 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:36 am

dcstanley wrote:Rui and Hayes are two of the lowest IQ players in the playoffs. Hard to be a serious team when these two are starters.

Doesn't help that Lebron looks outmatched physically.

Physically he looks good but he's old and not explosive anymore. Especially against a top 5 level defense in the playoffs
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Post#2433 » by jalengreen » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:38 am

Night and day in terms of defensive energy compared to G1

But man the offense when Luka isn't producing.. the 4th quarter was horrific.
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Post#2434 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:38 am

I would be surprised if LA wins this series. Just don't have enough juice offensively and defensively
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Post#2435 » by TheGOATRises007 » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:41 am

The Wolves are probably the best team in the league to make LeBron look off physically.

But yeah that offense looks ugly when Luka isn't playing.
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Post#2436 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:42 am

jalengreen wrote:Night and day in terms of defensive energy compared to G1

But man the offense when Luka isn't producing.. the 4th quarter was horrific.

Even Luka doesn't stress Wolves' defense that much
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Post#2437 » by PistolPeteJR » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:43 am

dcstanley wrote:Rui and Hayes are two of the lowest IQ players in the playoffs. Hard to be a serious team when these two are starters.

Doesn't help that Lebron looks outmatched physically.


Rui was actually the best defender on Ant tonight.
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Post#2438 » by tone wone » Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:47 am

7-27 from 3 against Minny this season.

His scoring against them stinks because 1.he can't finish over their bigs and 2.he can't buy a 3
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Post#2439 » by IG2 » Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:03 am

Only thought that kept going through my head while watching this game was LA is not going to win thie series. Minnesota is just really, really good and we had all clearly underestimated them despite a top 3 record in the league post-AS break. They have so much length and athleticism defensively that allows them to hang in games even when struggling offensively. It's just very draining to play against them.

Lakers on the other hand have some very glaring holes that i don't see how they can overcome. Their lone big man has so far proven to be unplayable. LeBron is 40 and doesn't really look capable of being a #2 option against playoff defense. Luke is great, but his conditioning can leave a lot to be desired. He was basically moving in slow motion most of that 2nd half.

This series will be over in 5-6 games and I'd say OKC is the only team that can take Minesota out in the West.
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Post#2440 » by nzahir » Wed Apr 23, 2025 5:08 am

You guys are incredibly pessimistic about this

You realize AR was 0/6 from 3 and he missed 4 wide open ones in the 1st half

We should have been up 20+ at half time with bad shooting

Mind you Randle is also playing very well for himself in the playoffs

If we can beat Minny, I think we can win it all

Minny>Hou

GS doesnt have athletes and size like Minny. They have Curry and Butler, but I think we beat them too

Then its between 1 of OKC, Den, or LAC

OKC's defense is not as tough for us imo. They aren't as big or long

I think we should beat Denver know with this team

LAC is really tough, but I think we should beat them. They don't have the athletes that Minny does and we actually have some bodies for Kawhi I think

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