2020-21 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#2561 » by HeartBreakKid » Sun Jun 6, 2021 12:12 am

I think the likelihood of one of the Nets big 3 getting injured this post season was insanely high given the sample size of the RS. That is something you had to take into account if you were high on Brooklyn, can they win a round without one of their big guns?

They have guys like Harris and Griffin way under market value still. Let's see what the original duo of Durant+Irving can put together.
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Post#2562 » by Dupp » Sun Jun 6, 2021 12:29 am

Nets are so insanely stacked this is crazy
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Post#2563 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Jun 6, 2021 12:33 am

I want the Bucks to win this series, of course, but I love what I'm seeing from Blake. :nod:
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Post#2564 » by toodles23 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 12:46 am

Texas Chuck wrote:Kidd failed with the Bucks and the way he got that job was ugly, but I think he's likely learned from some of the issues that caused him to fail. I don't have an issue with him getting another chance. He just has to succeed because its almost certainly his last.

I get what you're saying, people can grow, but as a Blazer fan I have less than zero interest gambling away the rest of Dame's prime with a guy who was disastrous in his previous stint as a coach.

Plus his history of domestic violence isn't likely to play well in 2021, especially in a city as liberal as Portland.
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Post#2565 » by Dupp » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:20 am

Nets have two players better than giannis


This team might be more stacked than kd warriors
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Post#2566 » by Basileus777 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:22 am

Bucks can't defend the Nets even with Harden sitting out.
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Post#2567 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:25 am

KD apparently needs a mega-stacked team and ref help, then he wonders why people don't respect him.
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Post#2568 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:44 am

Well, the Bucks appear to be the same team as the last few years. The Sixers are coached by Doc Rivers. The Hawks probably aren't ready yet. The Nets are getting an easy road to the Finals, sadly. Anti-competitive, just how Durant likes it.
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Post#2569 » by yoyoboy » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:47 am

I honestly thought Milwaukee had a great chance of taking out Brooklyn, but man, they might just be too offensively stacked. No Harden and they're still making it look easy.

Just one game and Milwaukee can shoot better than this, but I don't like what I've seen so far. Brooklyn might just sleep their way to a title this year.
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Post#2570 » by MO12msu » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:55 am

I don’t expect Jrue and Khris to be this bad on offense again but I expected the Bucks to put up some better resistance against Brooklyn’s offense, especially with no Harden. Nets seemed to get what they want.
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Post#2571 » by falcolombardi » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:58 am

this is a bad blow to milwaukee but i wouldnt take too many conclusions yet

lots of thinghs went right for nets with their role players amd defense,

as well as hollyday, middleton and bucks shooters all going cold. kinda like game 1 vs miami where it got close when the bucks couldnt buy a shot nor stop the opposing team shooters

but both thinghs didnt repeat at the same time any other game. i think somewhat like that will happen this series

i doubt everythingh (defense más production from role players, both kd and irving going hot,bucks bad shooting all around) will all happen again in a single game and predict a 6-7 game series either way

still favoring bucks slightly if harden doesnt return, slightly favoring nets if harden comes back in like games 4-5
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Post#2572 » by CBA » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:59 am

Bucks defense has been fairly disappointing this year, but I’m surprised they couldn’t do much against this Nets team without Harden. They should be heavily favored at this point.
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Post#2573 » by falcolombardi » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:03 am

MO12msu wrote:I don’t expect Jrue and Khris to be this bad on offense again but I expected the Bucks to put up some better resistance against Brooklyn’s offense, especially with no Harden. Nets seemed to get what they want.


i think brook lopez is just not gonna cut it for this series. nets are too confortable playing against drop coverage as they have the best shooting in the league, specially in midrange

bud should use his team tools like switching and giannis at 5 instead of not even considering them, he risks a repeat of last year if he is stubbron with playing lopez
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Post#2574 » by Peregrine01 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:16 am

I don't think the Bucks' problem today was on defense. Brooklyn is gonna make shots but the Bucks wasn't scoring well at all against a bottom-quartile defense. And to me, it isn't so much what Brooklyn was doing but more about what the Bucks weren't doing. Their offense looks incredibly predictable and the same as in previous playoffs - just feed Giannis the ball in the high post and hope he can get to the rim. I think by now everyone should realize that Giannis can't be an offensive hub on a championship team - he's better suited playing off another offensive hub like AD does with Bron.
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Post#2575 » by Statlanta » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:18 am

I've always felt the Nets were beating the East but not winning the championship. The West is filled with resilient and well running teams that can match the star talent with other facets of the game especially injured ones as Phoenix just showed. The Harden injury just reassures my notion.
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Post#2576 » by TheGOATRises007 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:24 am

Statlanta wrote:I've always felt the Nets were beating the East but not winning the championship. The West is filled with resilient and well running teams that can match the star talent with other facets of the game especially injured ones as Phoenix just showed. The Harden injury just reassures my notion.


What team in the West matches Brooklyn's star talent?
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Post#2577 » by Dupp » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:28 am

Giannis lack of minutes gonna be an issue again. Dudes gotta go out fighting this year playing 40 minutes. Same shot against Miami last playoffs.
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Post#2578 » by falcolombardi » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:39 am

Peregrine01 wrote:I don't think the Bucks' problem today was on defense. Brooklyn is gonna make shots but the Bucks wasn't scoring well at all against a bottom-quartile defense. And to me, it isn't so much what Brooklyn was doing but more about what the Bucks weren't doing. Their offense looks incredibly predictable and the same as in previous playoffs - just feed Giannis the ball in the high post and hope he can get to the rim. I think by now everyone should realize that Giannis can't be an offensive hub on a championship team - he's better suited playing off another offensive hub like AD does with Bron.


i think is both, nets are a elite offensive team even when harden doesnt play yes... but you expect good defenses to be able to slow down opposite offenses too, the last 2 champions (lakers and raptors) did it, and harden less nets are not a "break the scale" offense (elite still yeah, but not in a different league to everyone else)

bucks championship contender case is dependant om them being strong in both sides, if they cannot slow down nets below their average AND score above their own average against nets Mediocre Defense then the series is over for them, they need to do at least 1 of those 2

i think brook is part of both, this is not his matchup, using him in the post to punish the nets takes away space for giannis and everyone else drives. using him as a shooter is pointless as it limits the offensive advantage og using him against the smaller nets

while in defense this is not his matchup, nets are the one team in the league that is most confortable just taking jumpers and midrange shots and still scoring really, really well. drop coverage and forcing 2's. budenholzer old "reliable" doesnt cut it here, nets are too confortable with taking the midrange if you give it to them and dont need the paint to generate shots like miami

is better to play giannis, portis and tucker imo and ahorren the rotation
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Post#2579 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Jun 6, 2021 6:26 am

The Nets were up 5 for half that game and still felt like they were in total control. 5 point Nets lead is like 5 point lead for 04 Pistons except for opposite reasons.

As annoying as the superteam thing is it seems like they have good chemistry due to the real life relationship of Durant and Irving and Nash coaching emphasizing teamwork. I enjoyed watching them tonight much more than a Clippers game.

For the Bucks side you could claim the 3pt shooting was fluky bad like Jazz first game against the Grizzlies
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Post#2580 » by GSP » Sun Jun 6, 2021 7:42 am

Dr Positivity wrote:The Nets were up 5 for half that game and still felt like they were in total control. 5 point Nets lead is like 5 point lead for 04 Pistons except for opposite reasons.

As annoying as the superteam thing is it seems like they have good chemistry due to the real life relationship of Durant and Irving and Nash coaching emphasizing teamwork. I enjoyed watching them tonight much more than a Clippers game.

For the Bucks side you could claim the 3pt shooting was fluky bad like Jazz first game against the Grizzlies


Nets had some amazing ball movement this game

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Theyre obviously better with Harden but the ball movement and specially defense are a lot worse with Harden. They rely more on the talent with Harden there and turn into the Harden iso Rockets except they have Kd and Kyrie now

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