All-Time Fantasy Draft With FGA Limit - Meta Thread

[MyUniBroDavis]

Davis was a guy that I didn't expect to see for a while and while i'm kind of surprised he was picked over another certain player, it makes sense with the guy already on the team.

Magic/AD is another really nice pair

Assume you're talking about Karl? He wasn't all that much on my radar to be honest. The geometry of the floor is one of my biggest concerns in putting together a team, and Davis' skill set just always made more sense. I just was really, really attracted to the putting a young, high motor, relentless rim attacker next to Magic. I think Davis' rim pressure is something Magic could really take advantage of to punish defenses, and the fast breaks these two would run, just holy ****. Malone is great in a lot of the same ways as Davis, but he's a bulkier dude who likes to hang out in the mid-post and things could get cramped with Magic preferring that zone as well. Davis to me seems far more comfortable hanging out on the baseline and under the rim waiting to pounce on dump off passes, lobs, and O-boards. And I like the idea of a small lineup with Magic at PF and Davis at C a lot more than a comparable one with Malone.

There were a few wings I might have taken over Davis, but I love the value I got with this pick and this leaves me still with a ton of directions I can go moving forward.

Davis is 6ft11 actually, he is taller than listed, average height for a center. wingspan was 7ft7 according to a pelicans banner last summer.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-anthony-davis-gives-the-pelicans-open-looks-they-do-1690381244

davis has a huge spacing effect btw. Yes, im horribly biased I know

davis in transition this year

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Anthony Davis   gp   possessions  freq  ppp  points   made attempted  fg  efg (lol he shot a three)  ft frew  turnover freq and one freq score freq  percentile
NOP   61   115   8.1%   1.36   156   56   81   69.1   70.4   22.6%   9.6%   15.7%   2.6%   68.7%   91.9

2009 lebron

[Timmaytime]

I wonder what do you guys think about my Jordan/Malone pairing? They combine for about a half of available FGAs (42.2, assuming I keep '90 version of Jordan and '98 version of Malone), but for instance '01 Shaq/Kobe averaged 41.4, so it's just slightly more than MJ/KM, and if I change MJ's version from '90 to '91, I'm already below Shaq/Kobe, at 40.6. Both Jordan and Malone are great passers, just like Shaq and Kobe, so I believe they could be extremely successful together.

Thoughts?

Obviously a fantastic pairing at an all time level, but you are correct in that it hamstrings you a bit from now on. I think your next pick is the crucial one and if you pick someone that really makes sense you'll be in good shape.

I'm sitting at 36fga currently so i'm in a little better shape but I still probably need another reliable offensive option where as you could probably fill out with shooters and defenders and be solid

[MyUniBroDavis]

I wonder what do you guys think about my Jordan/Malone pairing? They combine for about a half of available FGAs (42.2, assuming I keep '90 version of Jordan and '98 version of Malone), but for instance '01 Shaq/Kobe averaged 41.4, so it's just slightly more than MJ/KM, and if I change MJ's version from '90 to '91, I'm already below Shaq/Kobe, at 40.6. Both Jordan and Malone are great passers, just like Shaq and Kobe, so I believe they could be extremely successful together.

Thoughts?

Obviously a fantastic pairing at an all time level, but you are correct in that it hamstrings you a bit from now on. I think your next pick is the crucial one and if you pick someone that really makes sense you'll be in good shape.

I'm sitting at 36fga currently so i'm in a little better shape but I still probably need another reliable offensive option where as you could probably fill out with shooters and defenders and be solid

I mean, there are alot of "bang for you buck" guys. 40fg is plenty for 5 players

[Doctor MJ]

With their 2nd pick in the All-Time Draft, the Long Beach Longshoremen select:



Jerry West

Once again a player better suited to the present era than to his own. He can do it all, and does it all with humility.
He'll get along just fine with Larry Legend.

[Doctor MJ]

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You're up.

[wojoaderge]

I wonder what do you guys think about my Jordan/Malone pairing? They combine for about a half of available FGAs (42.2, assuming I keep '90 version of Jordan and '98 version of Malone), but for instance '01 Shaq/Kobe averaged 41.4, so it's just slightly more than MJ/KM, and if I change MJ's version from '90 to '91, I'm already below Shaq/Kobe, at 40.6. Both Jordan and Malone are great passers, just like Shaq and Kobe, so I believe they could be extremely successful together.

Thoughts?

Obviously a fantastic pairing at an all time level, but you are correct in that it hamstrings you a bit from now on. I think your next pick is the crucial one and if you pick someone that really makes sense you'll be in good shape.

I'm sitting at 36fga currently so i'm in a little better shape but I still probably need another reliable offensive option where as you could probably fill out with shooters and defenders and be solid

I mean, there are alot of "bang for you buck" guys. 40fg is plenty for 5 players

6

[MyUniBroDavis]

Obviously a fantastic pairing at an all time level, but you are correct in that it hamstrings you a bit from now on. I think your next pick is the crucial one and if you pick someone that really makes sense you'll be in good shape.

I'm sitting at 36fga currently so i'm in a little better shape but I still probably need another reliable offensive option where as you could probably fill out with shooters and defenders and be solid

I mean, there are alot of "bang for you buck" guys. 40fg is plenty for 5 players

6

Same thing though, 6.66 per player.

Personally I would have gone with 1 high player and 7 bang for your buck player, but it's still perfectly good. I mean, we know a lot of players that do roles incredibly without shooting hundreds of shots,

[wojoaderge]

I mean, there are alot of "bang for you buck" guys. 40fg is plenty for 5 players

6

Same thing though, 6.66 per player.

Personally I would have gone with 1 high player and 7 bang for your buck player, but it's still perfectly good. I mean, we know a lot of players that do roles incredibly without shooting hundreds of shots,

I personally prefer the FGAs more spread out, but of course both approaches are very valid

[Dr Spaceman]

With their 2nd pick in the All-Time Draft, the Long Beach Longshoremen select:



Jerry West

Once again a player better suited to the present era than to his own. He can do it all, and does it all with humility.
He'll get along just fine with Larry Legend.

Awesome, awesome pick. I thought for sure you had someone else in mind, but West was a guy I was strongly targeting and hoping against hope he was gonna fall through the cracks.

[Dr Spaceman]

Davis was a guy that I didn't expect to see for a while and while i'm kind of surprised he was picked over another certain player, it makes sense with the guy already on the team.

Magic/AD is another really nice pair

Assume you're talking about Karl? He wasn't all that much on my radar to be honest. The geometry of the floor is one of my biggest concerns in putting together a team, and Davis' skill set just always made more sense. I just was really, really attracted to the putting a young, high motor, relentless rim attacker next to Magic. I think Davis' rim pressure is something Magic could really take advantage of to punish defenses, and the fast breaks these two would run, just holy ****. Malone is great in a lot of the same ways as Davis, but he's a bulkier dude who likes to hang out in the mid-post and things could get cramped with Magic preferring that zone as well. Davis to me seems far more comfortable hanging out on the baseline and under the rim waiting to pounce on dump off passes, lobs, and O-boards. And I like the idea of a small lineup with Magic at PF and Davis at C a lot more than a comparable one with Malone.

There were a few wings I might have taken over Davis, but I love the value I got with this pick and this leaves me still with a ton of directions I can go moving forward.

Davis is 6ft11 actually, he is taller than listed, average height for a center. wingspan was 7ft7 according to a pelicans banner last summer.

http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-anthony-davis-gives-the-pelicans-open-looks-they-do-1690381244

davis has a huge spacing effect btw. Yes, im horribly biased I know

davis in transition this year

Code: Select all

Anthony Davis   gp   possessions  freq  ppp  points   made attempted  fg  efg (lol he shot a three)  ft frew  turnover freq and one freq score freq  percentile
NOP   61   115   8.1%   1.36   156   56   81   69.1   70.4   22.6%   9.6%   15.7%   2.6%   68.7%   91.9

2009 lebron

Yeah Davis as full-time center is something I'm considering. His rim protection and mobility make him very tempting from there especially considering the offensive mismatch. We'll see how the rest of my team turns out.

[theonlyclutch]

That's cool I guess, I'm picking Manu Ginobili as my 2nd round pick.

sorry I kind of screwed you by making my pick at that time

No worries, I was thinking of taking Draymond and that got taken before me....

[Square]

West is great. Honestly shocked at some of the guys who are falling (though obviously I'm complicit in that). Not sure if the fga limit has such a big effect or if you guys just have different rankings than the people I usually do these games with.

[MyUniBroDavis]

With their 2nd pick in the All-Time Draft, the Long Beach Longshoremen select:



Jerry West

Once again a player better suited to the present era than to his own. He can do it all, and does it all with humility.
He'll get along just fine with Larry Legend.

Awesome, awesome pick. I thought for sure you had someone else in mind, but West was a guy I was strongly targeting and hoping against hope he was gonna fall through the cracks.

the long beach longshoreman

T H E L O N G B E A C H L O N G S H O R E M A N

[theonlyclutch]

I wonder what do you guys think about my Jordan/Malone pairing? They combine for about a half of available FGAs (42.2, assuming I keep '90 version of Jordan and '98 version of Malone), but for instance '01 Shaq/Kobe averaged 41.4, so it's just slightly more than MJ/KM, and if I change MJ's version from '90 to '91, I'm already below Shaq/Kobe, at 40.6. Both Jordan and Malone are great passers, just like Shaq and Kobe, so I believe they could be extremely successful together.

Thoughts?

~7FGA for the next 6 players isn't a big problem in a vacuum, but everyone else will be eyeing alot of the same players..

[E-Balla]

Manu is a dang good pick.

He was my dream leading scorer I assumed Doc MJ would take.

[E-Balla]

I wonder what do you guys think about my Jordan/Malone pairing? They combine for about a half of available FGAs (42.2, assuming I keep '90 version of Jordan and '98 version of Malone), but for instance '01 Shaq/Kobe averaged 41.4, so it's just slightly more than MJ/KM, and if I change MJ's version from '90 to '91, I'm already below Shaq/Kobe, at 40.6. Both Jordan and Malone are great passers, just like Shaq and Kobe, so I believe they could be extremely successful together.

Thoughts?

~7FGA for the next 6 players isn't a big problem in a vacuum, but everyone else will be eyeing alot of the same players..

That's why I'm keeping a low FGA team and picking up role players a little early. I could pick up the high volume scraps but some of you guys won't be able to afford losing 2 great low volume guys and your teams will have big weaknesses. I have 25 FGA between my first 2 players and if I got Manu with my 3rd like I wanted to I'd have had 36 FGA for 3 guys. I think it's obvious when you look at the selections that some guys don't care about the FGA cap and some people are definitely revolving the team around it. I think of it like the salary cap - the more value per dollar the better you'll be. Here it's the most value per FGA.

[MisterHibachi]

I feel we should've went with an AAABABAB draft instead of pure snake. But I'm obviously biased.

[Clyde Frazier]

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You're up.

Busy day at work, but will have my pick in within the 6 hr window. Had my eye on ginobili!

[Quotatious]

Bird/West is such a cool tandem. Nice job Doc.

[Doctor MJ]

Awesome, awesome pick. I thought for sure you had someone else in mind, but West was a guy I was strongly targeting and hoping against hope he was gonna fall through the cracks.

Thank you, and thanks everyone saying nice things. This one really worked out for me. When the 2nd round began West was at the top of my list to pair with Bird. I kinda can't believe I actually got him.