The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1)

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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#261 » by kayess » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:06 am

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kayess wrote:My main disappointment with Durant going to GSW was that he might not be able to fully utilize his abilities on the roster; of course, this was before I thought they would keep Bogut, and now he's playing at an insanely high level, in a completely symbiotic team environment. That shot chart is ridiculous, though I wish the 0/1 wasn't there...

Still hate the fact that he kept saying it was the next step, and then saying he wouldn't have joined them if they won (as if that had any impact on what his level of play was going to be on this team). But these and many other things will fade into memory if he helps them be the GOAT team.


I really think he deserves a chance to be judged fairly when it comes to his performances this season. I mean if you watched him closely this season, you would clearly see the massive effort he puts in on both ends on regular basis. He is on a great team but that doesn't mean he is relaxing or something like that. Not at all. In GSW, yes he doesn't have to carry as much offense but his defensive responsibilities just became pretty big and essential for this team to succeed after losing Bogut. He is doing everything on the court and that's extremely valuable to the team. So in the end, he still has to play as hard and as good as possible to make this team look great and he is delivering atm. I think he deserves credit for that so far but obviously people who don't like him won't give him the credit he deserves atm. However, that might change over time as you implied.


Oh, I dont disagree - that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm implying that I didn't think he'd be able to fully max out his talent, because they would keep Bogut, thus not allowing KD to shine defensively as he did in the WCF last year.

But they didn't keep Bogut, and so KD gets to do his thing, and should get a ton of credit for it.
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#262 » by StepBackCrack » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:20 am

kayess wrote:
KD_Steph wrote:
kayess wrote:My main disappointment with Durant going to GSW was that he might not be able to fully utilize his abilities on the roster; of course, this was before I thought they would keep Bogut, and now he's playing at an insanely high level, in a completely symbiotic team environment. That shot chart is ridiculous, though I wish the 0/1 wasn't there...

Still hate the fact that he kept saying it was the next step, and then saying he wouldn't have joined them if they won (as if that had any impact on what his level of play was going to be on this team). But these and many other things will fade into memory if he helps them be the GOAT team.


I really think he deserves a chance to be judged fairly when it comes to his performances this season. I mean if you watched him closely this season, you would clearly see the massive effort he puts in on both ends on regular basis. He is on a great team but that doesn't mean he is relaxing or something like that. Not at all. In GSW, yes he doesn't have to carry as much offense but his defensive responsibilities just became pretty big and essential for this team to succeed after losing Bogut. He is doing everything on the court and that's extremely valuable to the team. So in the end, he still has to play as hard and as good as possible to make this team look great and he is delivering atm. I think he deserves credit for that so far but obviously people who don't like him won't give him the credit he deserves atm. However, that might change over time as you implied.


Oh, I dont disagree - that's exactly what I'm saying. I'm implying that I didn't think he'd be able to fully max out his talent, because they would keep Bogut, thus not allowing KD to shine defensively as he did in the WCF last year.

But they didn't keep Bogut, and so KD gets to do his thing, and should get a ton of credit for it.


Oh my bad. I actually agreed with your post. Just wanted to add to it.
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#263 » by The Heroes » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:38 pm

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"Kevin Durant is top 5 in almost every form of shooting efficiency"

And I don't mean cumulative statistic, I mean from every position on the floor in every situation.

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First, the general stat ranks with historical context.

TS%-68.4% 1st
-Durant's current TS% would be the most efficient scoring season in NBA history for a 20+ ppg scorer. He would join Artis Gilmore and Cedric Maxwell as the only players to shoot 67% of better while averaging 15+ ppg. It would be the 8th highest TS% in NBA history for any player regardless of point average.
http://bkref.com/tiny/mydXX

eFG%-63.6% 1st
-He's looking to join Wilt Chamberlain and Artis Gilmore as the only players to ever shoot that well while averaging 15+ ppg. Additionally, that would be the highest eFG% in NBA history for a player averaging 25+ppg.
http://bkref.com/tiny/PTGpd

FG%-57.4 5th
-He's looking to become the 13th player in NBA history to average 20+ ppg with a FG% of 57.0% or higher. Additionally, he would be only the 6th player in history to average 25+ on 57.0% or higher, the other 5 being Kareem, Barkley, Shaq, McHale, and Amare Stoudemire
http://bkref.com/tiny/jE6VP

2P FG%-62.6% 1st
-He's on pace to join Wilt Chamberlain and Charles Barkley as the only players to ever average 20+ ppg while shooting 62.5% or higher from 2.
http://bkref.com/tiny/iSEba

3P Percentage-44.6% 11th
-Only 5 players in NBA history have shot 44.5% or higher from 3(min 1 3PM/g) while averaging 20 or more ppg.
http://bkref.com/tiny/vlb4u

Now for the shot locations/situational stats..Here are his ranks among players with similar or higher volume from each single shooting location/position/variable tracked on NBA.com

Dribbles taken
0-1st 69.2 eFG%
1-1st 58.7 eFG%
2-4th 58.6 eFG%
3 to 6-1st 58.8 eFG%
7+10th 52.9 eFG%

Closest Defender(feet away)
0 to 2-6th 60.8 eFG%
2 to 4-1st 59.5 eFG%
4-6 feet-1st 71.4 eFG%

Touch time
2 seconds-2nd 77.2 eFG%
2 to 6-3rd 55.5 eFG%
6+ seconds-2nd 60.9 eFG%

Shot Clock(seconds)
22-24-4th 76.9 eFG%
18-22-7th 73.1 eFG%
15-18-2nd 62.5 eFG%
7-15-4th 61.4 eFG%
Shot clock off-4th 63.6 eFG%

Catch and Shoot-11th 61.4 eFG%

Pull Ups-2nd 51.2 eFG%

Inside 10 feet-1st 76.3 eFG%

Transition-1st 1.51 PPP

Isolation-4th 1.17 PPP

Ball Handler-12th 1.00 PPP

Post Ups-1st 54.5 eFG%, 11 PPP

Spot Ups-2nd 73.8 eFG%, 4th 1.41 PPP

Hand Off-4th 70.8 eFG%, 10th 1.25 PPP

Cutting-1st 81.8 eFG%, 1st 1.67 PPP

Off Screen-7th 58.1 eFG%, 6th 1.20 PPP

Distance(feet)
Inside 5-1st 80.2 FG%

5-9-7th 54.5 FG%

15-19-4th 55.8 FG%

20-24-3rd 57.7 FG%

25-29-4th 43.3 FG%

Less than 8 feet-1st 75.3 FG%

8-16-6th 46.8 FG%

16-24-2nd 57.4 FG%

24+-7th 45.1 FG%

Restricted Area-1st 82.3 FG%

In-The-Paint NON RA-2nd 51.1 FG%

Midrange-4th 50.0 FG%

Left Corner 3-2nd 80.0 FG%

Right Corner 3-12th 57.1 FG%

Above the Break 3-7th 41.4 FG%
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#264 » by PCProductions » Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:28 pm

I hope people seriously reconsider the whole debate about Durant being the better player in 2014 vs. 2016 with how this year has been going.
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Post#266 » by clyde21 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:00 pm

PCProductions wrote:I hope people seriously reconsider the whole debate about Durant being the better player in 2014 vs. 2016 with how this year has been going.


He's been unbelievable this year.

Durant in this offense with Curry is a match made in heaven.
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Post#267 » by KD35Brah » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:13 pm

"Can't hang with 4s and 5s".
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Post#268 » by clyde21 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:14 pm

RW has Durant front runner for MVP right now.
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#269 » by Bergmaniac » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:42 pm

PCProductions wrote:I hope people seriously reconsider the whole debate about Durant being the better player in 2014 vs. 2016 with how this year has been going.

Why? It is a different season now. He was clearly rusty at first last season after the injury layoff and then coasted quite a bit during the season, neither of which seems to be an issue now.
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Post#270 » by The Heroes » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:23 pm

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Week 5 PER Rankings

1. Anthony Davis: 32.1
2. Kevin Durant: 31.2
3. Russell Westbrook: 30.9
4. James Harden: 30.0
5. Jimmy Butler: 29.5
6. DeMarcus Cousins: 28.8
7. Chris Paul: 28.5
8. Kawhi Leonard: 27.7
9. George Hill: 27.3
10. Stephen Curry: 27.3
11. DeMar DeRozan: 27.2
12. LeBron James: 26.7
13. Kevin Love: 26.6
14. Kemba Walker: 26.1
15. Giannis Antetokounmpo: 25.6
16. Isaiah Thomas: 25.4
17. Damian Lillard: 25.3
18. Blake Griffin: 25.1
19. John Wall: 24.2
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Post#271 » by The Heroes » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:02 pm

Kevin Love, Kevin Durant named Players of the Week

...Durant helped the Warriors to a 4-0 week behind averages of 24.8 points, 8.3 rebounds, 6.3 assists and 2.75 blocked shots (tied for second in the West). He connected on 9-of-18 attempts (50.0 percent) from three-point range. On Nov. 23, he scored 28 points (on 11-for-15 shooting from the field) and added six rebounds and five assists in a 149-106 win over the Los Angeles Lakers. He closed the week with 28 points, 10 rebounds, a career-high six blocks and five assists as Golden State extended its winning streak to 11 games with a 115-102 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Nov. 26.


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Post#273 » by Colbinii » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:56 pm

Man, does this guy have the greatest portability of all-time?
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Post#274 » by clyde21 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:08 pm

Colbinii wrote:Man, does this guy have the greatest portability of all-time?


That's probably LeBron...but KD is up there.
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#275 » by Woodsanity » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:13 pm

I don't like how Durant switched teams but I have to admit I have been impressed by his play. What he is doing is mind boggling.
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#276 » by StepBackCrack » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:23 am

Colbinii wrote:Man, does this guy have the greatest portability of all-time?


He has a great argument for that for sure.
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#277 » by rcontador » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:22 am

clyde21 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:Man, does this guy have the greatest portability of all-time?


That's probably LeBron...but KD is up there.


Huh? I have never thought of Lebron as being particularly portable (considering his skill level). Definitely not on the level of a Durant or MJ.
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Re: The Kevin Durant Thread (2016 - 17 Pt. 1) 

Post#278 » by clyde21 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:33 am

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Colbinii wrote:Man, does this guy have the greatest portability of all-time?


That's probably LeBron...but KD is up there.


Huh? I have never thought of Lebron as being particularly portable (considering his skill level). Definitely not on the level of a Durant or MJ.


A guy that can play and guard 5 different positions isn't portable?
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Post#279 » by The Heroes » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:39 am

clyde21 wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:
That's probably LeBron...but KD is up there.


Huh? I have never thought of Lebron as being particularly portable (considering his skill level). Definitely not on the level of a Durant or MJ.


A guy that can play and guard 5 different positions isn't portable?


He can't play or guard all 5 positions, while his lack of shooting alongside his needing to have the ball in his hands to be most effective would detract from his portability.
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Post#280 » by clyde21 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:55 am

The Heroes wrote:
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Huh? I have never thought of Lebron as being particularly portable (considering his skill level). Definitely not on the level of a Durant or MJ.


A guy that can play and guard 5 different positions isn't portable?


He can't play or guard all 5 positions, while his lack of shooting alongside his needing to have the ball in his hands to be most effective would detract from his portability.


What position can't he play? He can put in legit minutes - on both sides - on every single position. He's also one of the best play-makers we've ever seen.
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