A.Randolph vs M.Beasley

some_rand · Post #261 » by **some_rand** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:36 pm

LOL at people bringing up dorell freaking wright, wright hasnt had a game as good as randolph did last night in the 5 year nba career.

oaktownwarriors87 · Post #262 » by **oaktownwarriors87** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:09 pm

J-Rich- wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
yehyeh82 wrote:He had 16/9 at half time, but it must have been garbage time from the minute he stepped on the floor, well at least according to the guy who didn't watch the game.....

Actually I watched the highlight video someone else posted of his game. After he scored his fifth bucket (which by the way the majority of were long jumpers, so not really impressed), the score jumps from like 38-32 all the way to 50-33.

Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TJARASNxEo

Not to say that he doesn't look like a good young player. But after his first 10 points scored, the game was pretty much out of reach. So yeah, most of his numbers did come in garbage time.

if it was beasley making a bunch of 15+ft jumpers you'd be impressed right?

Wow, they complain about his lack of offense, than he shows it off a little and now offense isn't that important? That's laughable.

And get this pace crap out of here, the pace helps all the guards on the team.... but Randolph? Maybe if they passed the ball a little Randolphs stats would be inflated. Until then, all the Warriors big men are suffering.

Want to talk about inflated stats? The only thing Beasly has done well is score and he plays on a team where there is only one player that knows how to do it. He's either hitting open jumpers or getting passes from Wade for an easy dunk. If it's not an open jumper or a dunk it gets blocked, I think he's had more inside shots blocked than any other player in the NBA this season.

BlaZeN27 · Post #263 » by **BlaZeN27** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:10 pm

All he does is dunk and make open jumpers? This is why I don't waste my time arguing with posters that just make stuff up. He excels at beating his man off the dribble from the high post and finishing with either hand, along with creating enough separation to get his silky smooth jump shot off. Golden State fans act like Beasley's scoring isn't 10 times better then Anthony Randolph's when it most definitely is. Beasley can get his when ever he pleases against who ever he pleases, that's a rare thing for a player in the NBA. When it comes down to it, AR will never be more then a rich mans combination of Josh Smith and Lamar Odom. A very very good player, but not an All-NBA type performer.

Post #264 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:02 am

BlaZeN27 wrote:All he does is dunk and make open jumpers? This is why I don't waste my time arguing with posters that just make stuff up. He excels at beating his man off the dribble from the high post and finishing with either hand, along with creating enough separation to get his silky smooth jump shot off. Golden State fans act like Beasley's scoring isn't 10 times better then Anthony Randolph's when it most definitely is. Beasley can get his when ever he pleases against who ever he pleases, that's a rare thing for a player in the NBA.

Perfectly put. Beasley isn't some one trick pony. He's got a very versatile NBA offensive game. That is undeniable.

richboy · Post #265 » by **richboy** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:03 am

This is tough for me. I am not a fan of either team. I watch them both. I'll tell you I think they both will be all-stars. I think Beasley could be a all-star as early as next year if the Heat are good enough. I could see AR a all-star a few years from now.

AR is special. He will be what Odom should have been. That said its tough to take him over Beasley. Although AR has physical tools that allow him to be potentially dominant. 6'11 almost in height. Over 9 foot standing reach. Very long arms. I still have to take Beasley. Its close for me though. Reasons I take Beasley is he has something that should allow him to be dominant offensively. I've said since watching him in college that he reminds me of a young Charles Barkley. He is playing just like that of late. I really see Beasley as a future 25 and 10 type of player.

AR will be good but I'm not sure he will be that good. AR though will bring aspects to the game that Beasley will not. This kid could play PG. This kid really could play 4 positions. He can do so many things well. I don't know if he is going to score 25 a night. I'm not sure he will ever have the arsenal that Beasley has.

This is tough because really I want them both. They are both fun to watch and I just like to watch them play. Its to bad Randolph season is about over because he was becoming one of my favorite players to watch. I love what I see from Beasley lately. Double double in the first quarter against the Hawks. Completely dominated Josh Smith in the quarter.

Really I don't know how to pick. I'm going to lean Beasley but I will say that Randolph is one of the most improved players I've seen from start of the year to end of the year that I've ever seen. If Randolph becomes better than Beasley its not going to be because Beasley a bust. Beasley is going to be great. Only reason I take him over AR is he is more of a sure thing than AR.

Post #266 » by **BBallFreak** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:09 am

12 points, 11 boards for Beasley in the first quarter alone, no Wade, Haslem, JO, or Moon. He's making a case for why he should retain the starting role even when Haslem returns.

Post #267 » by **Young_Star11** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:26 am

Both have plenty more to give in the coming years.

Post #268 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:32 am

Are people really arguing that the pace doesn't help a players stats? Particularly rebounding and shot blocking with an increased amount of attempts.

Wade2k6 · Post #269 » by **Wade2k6** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:42 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Are people really arguing that the pace doesn't help a players stats? Particularly rebounding and shot blocking with an increased amount of attempts.

Yup. That's some GS fans for ya. :roll:

BlaZeN27 · Post #270 » by **BlaZeN27** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:58 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:Are people really arguing that the pace doesn't help a players stats? Particularly rebounding and shot blocking with an increased amount of attempts.

Exactly my point.

salqaddoumi · Post #271 » by **salqaddoumi** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:02 am

I haven't read all 18 pages but from what i've read ... the GS fans commenting have made it painfully obvious that they haven't seen Michael Beasley play very much this season.

Joseph17 · Post #272 » by **Joseph17** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:06 am

Beasley but I think it will be close when Randolph fills out. I think Randolph's worst case scenario is Lamar Odom. I don't know who to compare Beasley to.

GswStorm3 · Post #273 » by **GswStorm3** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:09 am

joeyyowee wrote:Beasley but I think it will be close when Randolph fills out. I think Randolph's worst case scenario is Lamar Odom. I don't know who to compare Beasley to.

Another thing that totally gets disregarded.

NetsForce · Post #274 » by **NetsForce** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:22 am

*If Randolph fills out.

BlaZeN27 · Post #275 » by **BlaZeN27** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:19 am

NetsForce wrote:*If Randolph fills out.

Seriously. You can't just assume a player will fill out, especially someone his size. Its hard to put on any significant type of weight when you are that skinny.

GswStorm3 · Post #276 » by **GswStorm3** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:29 am

He's just 19, he's going to get bigger.

richboy · Post #277 » by **richboy** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:44 am

His weight is a non factor. He grabs 12 rebounds per 36 minutes. He is strong just not big. Really he shouldn't try to gain to much weight.

J-Rich- · Post #278 » by **J-Rich-** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:01 am

Randolph will add at least 15-20 more pounds and with the weight lifting, he will be strong enough to guard pfs but still have his quickness

BlaZeN27 · Post #279 » by **BlaZeN27** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:17 am

Even if he adds 15 pounds, he would still only be 212 pounds. That's not enough to bang with the bigs in the West. Not many players that come into the league as skinny as him are able to put on any significant weight (the only one that comes to mind is KG, and he is still pretty skinny).

You guys seem to assume he will be as good of a rebounder when he isn't playing Nellie ball, which I think is completely false. He will still be a good rebounder, but he will be forced to bang with other bigs and box out, which is something he will probably struggle with. When all said and done after he gets out of Nellie's system I see being around the same level rebounder as J-Smoove.

J-Rich- · Post #280 » by **J-Rich-** » Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:19 am

BlaZeN27 wrote:Even if he adds 15 pounds, he would still only be 212 pounds. That's not enough to bang with the bigs in the West. Not many players that come into the league as skinny as him are able to put on any significant weight (the only one that comes to mind is KG, and he is still pretty skinny).

You guys seem to assume he will be as good of a rebounder when he isn't playing Nellie ball, which I think is completely false. He will still be a good rebounder, but he will be forced to bang with other bigs and box out, which is something he will probably struggle with. When all said and done after he gets out of Nellie's system I see being around the same level rebounder as J-Smoove.

where you get 197 from...espn and nba.com page says he's 210