The Russell Westbrook Thread (2014/15)

[bondom34]

These are the teams that Russel GOATbrook has faced since coming back, prior to tonight.

Knicks
Pelicans
76ers
Pistons
Bucks
Cavs
TWolves
Suns
Kings

combined record of 82-134

Trolling, or bringing up legit statistics. You decide.

Trolling. I still take him over your boy Curry. He's done this for a while now, not just this season. Curry's not better at anything other than shooting.


Curry's best games by game score:
Miami, Houston, LAL twice, ORL, NOP twice, Dallas

Other than Dallas and Houston (neither of whom have a good PG at the time at least), all bad teams.

I don't know about that. Curry's a better playmaker, better at running an offense, and better at controlling the pace. Curry's also arguably is a better scorer than Westbrook. I was disappointed in Westbrook yesterday, he showed the ball hogging tendencies again while Curry was toying with OKC

I agree he played poorly, but I'd take him for OKC any day over Curry, he just fits in better. And a GSW fan popping in for this is just trolling.

[bondom34]

I'm sorry if acknowledging the fact that Russell GOATbrook has put up gaudy stats vs god awful teams makes me annoying. Dragging Steph Curry through the mud isn't helpful nor relevant to the discussion. I'm going to disengage at this point.

OK, just find it odd that a GSW fan pops in pregame to talk trash, then hangs around. Considering Curry's never been as successful postseason as Westbrook, just find it to be strange timing, you know, when there's a separate "Steph Curry" thread about 3 threads down last night, you just choose to come in here instead. Russ played a bad game last night, Curry's had em too.

[Texas Chuck]

I feel like Jalen and Simmons got this right yesterday---Westbrook hasn't changed. Its just finally everyone has stopped looking at the things they don't like about his game long enough to realize this guy is a bad man.

[dfins891]

Westbrook has never been a guy who just feasts on bad teams so I don't think it has much to do with his how good he's been this season.

If you sort his games by game score on BR last season, 8 of his top 11 games were against top 10 defenses. Including 2 against the Warriors. In fact looking at it he actually played significantly better against good teams last year.

I think Westbrook is the prototypical guy where if he's on no one can stop him and when he's off you don't need to stop him because he'll beat himself.

[thizznation]

I'm sorry if acknowledging the fact that Russell GOATbrook has put up gaudy stats vs god awful teams makes me annoying. Dragging Steph Curry through the mud isn't helpful nor relevant to the discussion. I'm going to disengage at this point.

OK, just find it odd that a GSW fan pops in pregame to talk trash, then hangs around. Considering Curry's never been as successful postseason as Westbrook, just find it to be strange timing, you know, when there's a separate "Steph Curry" thread about 3 threads down last night, you just choose to come in here instead. Russ played a bad game last night, Curry's had em too.

I'm sorry, I didn't know that a requirement to posting in this thread is to be an OKC homer. Once again I wasn't talking trash, I just acknowledged the fact that OKC has played 10 garbage teams in a row.


What's up with the whole "Russell GOATbrook" thing? The guy isn't even the best player on his own team.

[bondom34]

I'm sorry if acknowledging the fact that Russell GOATbrook has put up gaudy stats vs god awful teams makes me annoying. Dragging Steph Curry through the mud isn't helpful nor relevant to the discussion. I'm going to disengage at this point.

OK, just find it odd that a GSW fan pops in pregame to talk trash, then hangs around. Considering Curry's never been as successful postseason as Westbrook, just find it to be strange timing, you know, when there's a separate "Steph Curry" thread about 3 threads down last night, you just choose to come in here instead. Russ played a bad game last night, Curry's had em too.

I'm sorry, I didn't know that a requirement to posting in this thread is to be an OKC homer. Once again I wasn't talking trash, once again I just acknowledged the fact that OKC has played 10 garbage teams in a row.


What's up with the whole "Russell GOATbrook" thing? The guy isn't even the best player on his team.

You missed the joke, it was earlier in the thread. And you did come into a thread, for the first time, pregame and start talking about a stretch of games against weak teams, I'd call that trash talking. I'd be happy as a GSW fan too, but wait til the postseason.

Edit: And you're free to read the thread, as well as look at the numbers, Westbrook's playing at an amazing level and had a bad game. He's played well all season, one bad game changes nothing. You don't need to be a homer to post here, most people in this thread aren't OKC fans (I know a Heat fan, Dallas fan, and LA fan at least, and there's more). All that's normally asked in these threads is a general courtesy, you can point out that a guy had a bad game, whatever. But coming in saying he's played trash competition and start BS trash talking, its just useless.

[Swagalicious]

I'm sorry if acknowledging the fact that Russell GOATbrook has put up gaudy stats vs god awful teams makes me annoying. Dragging Steph Curry through the mud isn't helpful nor relevant to the discussion. I'm going to disengage at this point.

OK, just find it odd that a GSW fan pops in pregame to talk trash, then hangs around. Considering Curry's never been as successful postseason as Westbrook, just find it to be strange timing, you know, when there's a separate "Steph Curry" thread about 3 threads down last night, you just choose to come in here instead. Russ played a bad game last night, Curry's had em too.

I'm sorry, I didn't know that a requirement to posting in this thread is to be an OKC homer. Once again I wasn't talking trash, once again I just acknowledged the fact that OKC has played 10 garbage teams in a row.


What's up with the whole "Russell GOATbrook" thing? The guy isn't even the best player on his own team.

Bolded 1: This is rich coming from what seems to be a Stephen Curry homer. Your quite sarcastic use of "GOATbrook" suggests some inherent bias against the man, too .

Bolded 2: You must've missed last year's postseason, or this year's Regular Season or you're flat out blinded. Whoops.

[thizznation]

Whatever bro it looks like you are determined to make this a circle jerk russell westbrook thread if any mention of the strength of his opponents is considered "trash talking".

[bondom34]

Whatever bro it looks like you are determined to make this a circle jerk russell westbrook thread if any mention of the strength of his opponents is considered "trash talking".

No, I said it in my prior post. If you care to discuss, continue, but I remember now why I started to find some GSW fans tiresome last postseason. I posted on your team board last night, it was a good game, but its guys like you who give fanbases a bad rep. You clearly haven't paid attention if you think KD has been better than Russ this season.

Edit: And if you want to feel all superior about yourself, go ahead to the Curry thread, its fine.

Second edit: http://bkref.com/tiny/kKRXs

So, meh. Russ still ahead in assist percentage, better rebounder, PER, WS/48, OBPM, DBPM.....after a bad game.

[PaulieWal]

What's up with the whole "Russell GOATbrook" thing? The guy isn't even the best player on his own team.

It's because he really is a GOAT candidate and better than MJ IMO.




Okay, seriously...it's an inside joke that started on this board. Relax, it's not that serious.

[PaulieWal]

I feel like Jalen and Simmons got this right yesterday---Westbrook hasn't changed. Its just finally everyone has stopped looking at the things they don't like about his game long enough to realize this guy is a bad man.

I slightly disagree. He has changed his game a bit, granted it might be another stretch where he's more aggressive going to the rim and shooting a lot more within 3 feet of the basket (41% this year compared to 33% last year. His average FG distance is down to 11.1 from 12.9 last year and 11.8 the year before that).

So yes, more people are noticing him now but he's also been playing a Top 5 player this season whenever he's played. That's the real difference.

[Texas Chuck]

He has changed his game a bit, granted it might be another stretch where he's more aggressive going to the rim and shooting a lot more within 3 feet of the basket (41% this year compared to 33% last year. His average FG distance is down to 11.1 from 12.9 last year and 11.8 the year before that.

So yes, more people are noticing him now but he's also been playing a Top 5 player this season whenever he's played. That's the real difference.

That's fair I suppose.

I will say just from a pure joy of watching basketball standpoint this kid is my favorite guy in the league to watch play. His relentless attack and intensity brings me great joy. I imagine if I had rooting interest in the Thunder he might frustrate me some(see Ellis, Monta) but since I don't....

[PaulieWal]

He has changed his game a bit, granted it might be another stretch where he's more aggressive going to the rim and shooting a lot more within 3 feet of the basket (41% this year compared to 33% last year. His average FG distance is down to 11.1 from 12.9 last year and 11.8 the year before that.

So yes, more people are noticing him now but he's also been playing a Top 5 player this season whenever he's played. That's the real difference.

That's fair I suppose.

I will say just from a pure joy of watching basketball standpoint this kid is my favorite guy in the league to watch play. His relentless attack and intensity brings me great joy. I imagine if I had rooting interest in the Thunder he might frustrate me some(see Ellis, Monta) but since I don't....

Yeah, yesterday we saw some bad Russ especially in the first half when KD had it going but I don't blame him much in the second half with no KD and he also looked gassed in the 4th quarter. A lot of shots were short and defense for both teams was suspect. GSW also did a good job with Klay on GOATbrook and keeping him away from the rim by packing the paint at times.

[HeartBreakKid]

I feel like Jalen and Simmons got this right yesterday---Westbrook hasn't changed. Its just finally everyone has stopped looking at the things they don't like about his game long enough to realize this guy is a bad man.

Interesting they said that, yesterday I coincident had the same thought. He is still very much the same player, same fundamental weaknesses and strengths. He has an awesome pull up mid range jumper, which he didn't have maybe 3 years back, but he is still a two dimensional player. He either slams going into the paint, which works a lot, but as the game goes on, the better defensive teams will be able to adapt and will cause him to turn the ball over or just him getting his stuff swatted, or he'll stop for that pull up. His passing game is still very primitive, he gets a decent number of assist (a bit low this season so far), but a lot of that comes from him giving it to Kd and letting slim do his thing.


With that being said, what he does do is quite effective. I do think he has very strong narrative because he has exploded on most teams since coming back so may receive backlash for being overrated, though he has had a very easy schedule thus far.

I think Curry pretty much showed who the better guard was, Westbrook played pretty well overall (certainly had his bad streaks, but ended the game strong with some jumpers), but Curry just clearly looked better in every major facet of the game.

[thizznation]

Whatever bro it looks like you are determined to make this a circle jerk russell westbrook thread if any mention of the strength of his opponents is considered "trash talking".

No, I said it in my prior post. If you care to discuss, continue, but I remember now why I started to find some GSW fans tiresome last postseason. I posted on your team board last night, it was a good game, but its guys like you who give fanbases a bad rep. You clearly haven't paid attention if you think KD has been better than Russ this season.

Edit: And if you want to feel all superior about yourself, go ahead to the Curry thread, its fine.

Second edit: http://bkref.com/tiny/kKRXs

So, meh. Russ still ahead in assist percentage, better rebounder, PER, WS/48, OBPM, DBPM.....after a bad game.

Keep stereotyping fanbases and attacking people who bring up legit points.


Steph Curry spaces the floor better, less turnovers, better off ball play, knows when to stop shooting his team out of the game. He would be a perfect fit next to KD.


Would you rather have your offense spaced by one of the greatest shooters of the game, or rely on someone who gets his TS% really high by going to the line 20 times a game. One of these guys makes your teammates better, the other just stuffs the statline.

[PaulieWal]

One of these guys makes your teammates better, the other just stuffs the statline.

What an incredibly useless statement and this is coming from someone who would put Curry slightly ahead of RW and started the GOATbrook thing on the board.

[thizznation]

So you are saying Russell Westbrook makes Durant better than if Durant was paired with Curry?

[PaulieWal]

So you are saying Russell Westbrook makes Durant better than if Durant was paired with Curry?

I don't know about that but I am taking objection with your statement about RW being a stat sheet stuffer. I don't know who would make Durant better but anyone who has watched even 5 OKC games knows that RW makes his teammates better too with the defensive attention he draws. Sure when bad RW emerges and tries too much iso/hero ball it's not good but to qualify him as some sort of stat sheet player while Curry makes his teammates better is Skip Bayless level hyperbole.

[thizznation]

Curry draws more attention with his off the ball play, he doesn't need a 40 percentage usage rate to be effective. Creates more space for Durant and the rest of the team with out being as ball dominant.

Keep it up with the personal attacks though.

[PaulieWal]

Curry draws more attention with his off the ball play, he doesn't need a 40 percentage usage rate to be effective. Creates more space for Durant and the rest of the team with out being as ball dominant.

Keep it up with the personal attacks though.

Please, there have been no personal attacks on you whatsoever. You are making ridiculous statements and then getting called out. We get it , Curry is the real GOAT and RW is not as good in your eyes as he is in ours. Let's just move on because the thread is getting derailed at this point.