A.Randolph vs M.Beasley

[GswStorm3]

KG was smaller than Randolph... Bosh is less athletic and he's only 230 pounds. Two of the best off the top of my head.

I could just as easily ask about 6'8 power forwards in the NBA... stupid question.

Michael Beasley is 245+ lbs and has an 8' 11" standing reach. Being 6' 8" is irrelevant. Randolph, however, lacks the weight size to defend the rim. He will get bullied by other PFs if he doesn't add weight to his frame...one of the major reasons why Beasley is a better man defender is b/c he doesn't get bullied in the post nearly as much.

Anthony Randolph is more of a tweener forward (in a bad way) than Beasley.

That's ridiculous. Randolph can put on weight, Beasley isn't growing any taller. Randolph 9'1 standing reach and the 7'3 wingspan also gives him the length edge over Beasley.

[oaktownwarriors87]

KG was smaller than Randolph... Bosh is less athletic and he's only 230 pounds. Two of the best off the top of my head.

I could just as easily ask about 6'8 power forwards in the NBA... stupid question.

Michael Beasley is 245+ lbs and has an 8' 11" standing reach. Being 6' 8" is irrelevant. Randolph, however, lacks the weight size to defend the rim. He will get bullied by other PFs if he doesn't add weight to his frame...one of the major reasons why Beasley is a better man defender is b/c he doesn't get bullied in the post nearly as much.

Anthony Randolph is more of a tweener forward (in a bad way) than Beasley.

That's ridiculous. Randolph can put on weight, Beasley isn't growing any taller. Randolph 9'1 standing reach and the 7'3 wingspan also gives him the length edge over Beasley.

Yeah, looking at the top 10 picks over the last ten years not a single pf/c has a smaller standing reach than Beasley... he came in at 6'7 without shoes also.

[Wade2k6]

KG was smaller than Randolph... Bosh is less athletic and he's only 230 pounds. Two of the best off the top of my head.

I could just as easily ask about 6'8 power forwards in the NBA... stupid question.

Michael Beasley is 245+ lbs and has an 8' 11" standing reach. Being 6' 8" is irrelevant. Randolph, however, lacks the weight size to defend the rim. He will get bullied by other PFs if he doesn't add weight to his frame...one of the major reasons why Beasley is a better man defender is b/c he doesn't get bullied in the post nearly as much.

Anthony Randolph is more of a tweener forward (in a bad way) than Beasley.

That's ridiculous. Randolph can put on weight, Beasley isn't growing any taller. Randolph 9'1 standing reach and the 7'3 wingspan also gives him the length edge over Beasley.

Who here is questioning that Randolph doesn't have the length to play the PF position? He doesn't have the weight to successfully play it. He's just too damn skinny. He will easily get pushed around by anybody with any type of driving ability or low post game.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Michael Beasley is 245+ lbs and has an 8' 11" standing reach. Being 6' 8" is irrelevant. Randolph, however, lacks the weight size to defend the rim. He will get bullied by other PFs if he doesn't add weight to his frame...one of the major reasons why Beasley is a better man defender is b/c he doesn't get bullied in the post nearly as much.

Anthony Randolph is more of a tweener forward (in a bad way) than Beasley.

Than why isn't it actually happening like that when he is actually playing power forward?

[canefandynasty]

KG was smaller than Randolph... Bosh is less athletic and he's only 230 pounds. Two of the best off the top of my head.

I could just as easily ask about 6'8 power forwards in the NBA... stupid question.

Michael Beasley is 245+ lbs and has an 8' 11" standing reach. Being 6' 8" is irrelevant. Randolph, however, lacks the weight size to defend the rim. He will get bullied by other PFs if he doesn't add weight to his frame...one of the major reasons why Beasley is a better man defender is b/c he doesn't get bullied in the post nearly as much.

Anthony Randolph is more of a tweener forward (in a bad way) than Beasley.

That's ridiculous. Randolph can put on weight, Beasley isn't growing any taller. Randolph 9'1 standing reach and the 7'3 wingspan also gives him the length edge over Beasley.

Still, that doesn't change the fact Beasley has the length to defend the rim, whereas Randolph will get pushed around and that length to contest shots will be rendered useless.

Beasley has the length AND weight to defend the 4

Randolph lacks the weight.

[Wade2k6]

Yeah, looking at the top 10 picks over the last ten years not a single pf/c has a smaller standing reach than Beasley... he came in at 6'7 without shoes also.

Once again, who cares about height? Brand is 6'8 and that has never hurt him because he has very long arms that helps him out in the low post. Arm length and standing reach is much more relevent then height. Beasley has shown the ability the last month or so to finish all the layups he was missing in the beginning of the year. Height or standing reach isn't a problem with Beasley.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Still, that doesn't change the fact Beasley has the length to defend the rim, whereas Randolph will get pushed around and that length to contest shots will be rendered useless.

Beasley has the length AND weight to defend the 4

Randolph lacks the weight.

Yeah, looking at the top 10 picks over the last ten years not a single pf/c has a smaller standing reach than Beasley... he came in at 6'7 without shoes also.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Yeah, looking at the top 10 picks over the last ten years not a single pf/c has a smaller standing reach than Beasley... he came in at 6'7 without shoes also.

Once again, who cares about height? Brand is 6'8 and he has very long arms that helps him out in the low post. Arm length and standing reach is much more relevent then height. Beasley has shown the ability the last month or so to finish all the layups he was missing in the beginning of the year. Height or standing reach isn't a problem with Beasley.

Brand is longer than Randolph, NO ONE IS SMALLER THAN BEASLEY.

[og15]

KG played SF when he first came in the league. Tom Googs was the teams PF, just pointing that out.

[oaktownwarriors87]

Brand 9'2, Durant 9'2, Okafor 9'2.5 etc. etc. etc.

I stand corrected though, Sheldon Williams has an 8'8 reach and he was top 10.

[some_rand]

he defends and rebounds fine as it is so why does he need to add 40 pounds?

Name a successful PF that was under 230. Hell, it's hard enough finding one under 240.

At that size he'll probably be injury prone as well and will get DOMINATED by big PFs, and most of them have a huge advantage over him in terms of weight and strength. Randolph is already foul prone, as well, a clear sign of being undersized.

he bench pressed 7 times at the combine which is good for someone that lanky. Comments like this make me question how many games people have actually seen randolgh play. and most rookie bigs are foul prone.

how many sucessful PF have an 8'11 standing reach.

as for the guy who said Randolph is the "bad" type of tweener? so being tall enough to play PF but quick enough and having enough handles to play SF makes you a bad tweener but being too short to play pf and too slow to play sf like beasley is good?

[GswStorm3]

Doesn't it bother anyone else that Randolph has to add 40 pounds to be as heavy as Josh Smith?

He's a long way away from being a PF.

Why do I get the feeling you're just bitter Randolph didn't stay another year at LSU. Randolph has taken all the criticism from Don Nelson and still worked his butt off to improve. It doesn't bother me at all that a teenager is still developing his strength and weight.

[Wade2k6]

as for the guy who said Randolph is the "bad" type of tweener? so being tall enough to play PF but quick enough and having enough handles to play SF makes you a bad tweener but being too short to play pf and too small to play sf like beasley is good?

So now Beasley is too small to play SF??

[oaktownwarriors87]

as for the guy who said Randolph is the "bad" type of tweener? so being tall enough to play PF but quick enough and having enough handles to play SF makes you a bad tweener but being too short to play pf and too small to play sf like beasley is good?

So now Beasley is too small to play SF??

Now the only thing you can go against is his typo?

[Wade2k6]

Doesn't it bother anyone else that Randolph has to add 40 pounds to be as heavy as Josh Smith?

He's a long way away from being a PF.

Why do I get the feeling you're just bitter Randolph didn't stay another year at LSU. Randolph has taken all the criticism from Don Nelson and still worked his butt off to improve. It doesn't bother me at all that a teenager is still developing his strength and weight.

Why is it that people have to have some type of personal thing against him just because they criticize Randolph? Just because everybody on this forum doesn't think Randolph is the next KG/Magic like some of you fans think doesn't mean he doesn't have his flaws (and yes, his weight/body is one of his flaws).

[Tim_Hardawayy]

This thread is a lost cause if anyone actually thinks they will ever convince GSW fans that Beasley > Randolph (at least this season). You see, their franchise is a mess right now. They all hate the coach. Their last big prospect is looking bustalicious (Brandan Wright). Their last great player is looking like he may never be the player he once was (Monta Ellis). Andris Biedrins isn't going to get a ton better than he is right now.

So for them, they are forced to pin all their hopes on Randolph. And if all their hopes are on Randolph, there is no way they are going to accept he'll be anything less than part KG part Magic Johnson.

Its kinda like how Knicks fans in the past vehemently defended players like David Lee, Eddy Curry, and Mardy Collins (yes Mardy Collins). When your franchise is in the dumps, you latch onto the least smelly piece of garbage you can find.

[oaktownwarriors87]

he defends and rebounds fine as it is so why does he need to add 40 pounds?

Name a successful PF that was under 230. Hell, it's hard enough finding one under 240.

At that size he'll probably be injury prone as well and will get DOMINATED by big PFs, and most of them have a huge advantage over him in terms of weight and strength. Randolph is already foul prone, as well, a clear sign of being undersized.

he bench pressed 7 times at the combine which is good for someone that lanky.

That's odd, Dwight Howard only did 7

[oaktownwarriors87]

Brand 9'2, Durant 9'2, Okafor 9'2.5 etc. etc. etc.

I stand corrected though, Sheldon Williams has an 8'8 reach and he was top 10.

[Wade2k6]

as for the guy who said Randolph is the "bad" type of tweener? so being tall enough to play PF but quick enough and having enough handles to play SF makes you a bad tweener but being too short to play pf and too small to play sf like beasley is good?

So now Beasley is too small to play SF??

Now the only thing you can go against is his typo?

Ya know what, you're right, now Beasley is too small to play PF??

[oaktownwarriors87]

Now the only thing you can go against is his typo?

Ya know what, you're right, now Beasley is too small to play PF??

That's more like it, now find me a smaller PF with a small wing span or a smaller standing reach... oh yeah, you cant. To bad he has no fire to make up for that lack of size.