2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#341 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:44 pm

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The-Power wrote:That's obvious hyperbole but it's undeniable that Denver needs to find something beyond Jokic-ball that works if they want to make a push. Some prospects will have to take the next step or Denver will need to find ways to add a bit more depth to the roster.


They have bled talent for sure. And they have a couple of max players with real question marks.

but we can't forget the series they lost was extremely close. And I don't think anyone believes Dallas cakewalks them had they advanced.

This collective narrative of their demise with the best player on the planet peaking is premature at absolute best.

I'm not saying their demise is inevitable – I still have them as contenders, though clearly not as favorites at this point – but an already shallow team lost one of their five best players without proper replacement and there are clearly question marks surrounding their secondary star. I don't think they can just sit back and assume they'll be a force again in the playoffs – they need to actively look to improve their roster.


Not much they can do to improve the roster--its got to be health of the core 4 and they need some unexpected contributions. But when you have Jokic, you are dangerous and I see them being dismissed too easily for my liking. Now I know part of that is the nature of the beast--everyone gets eager to move on to the next hot thing. Wolves were being crowned champions before they had even dispatched Denver here for instance. Too many people think the Spurs will arrive this season because they are all in on Wemby hype even though he's got a long way to go offensively still.

Jokic is likely to be the best player, and by some distance, but won't sniff MVP. Gobert will still have more defensive impact than Wemby but the only think keeping Wemby from the DPOY is not making the game threshold. How they actually play won't matter.

Now admittedly I have the opposite problem. I believe in the incumbent until proven otherwise. I didn't see OKC coming last year for instance. I would take Boston against the field this year. All the talk last year here how Giannis wasn't any good made me crazy. But I have to wake up to his health issues--they are becoming an annual issue.

I'm still more bullish on Denver as a West contender than others. I think OKC, Dallas, Denver will provide the conference champion and I'd be really suprised if anyone else snuck in(barring injuries to SGA/Luka.Jokic obviously).
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#342 » by parsnips33 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 12:49 am

Boston's 73-9 season
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Post#343 » by bigboi » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:09 am

A lot of you are going to get exposed this season. It’s hilarious. Remember I said Tatum is winning MVP and brown will be first team all nba.
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

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Post#344 » by itsxtray » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:21 am

Tatum's issue last season was that his 3 ball abandoned him throughout the playoffs and the Olympics. If he gets it back, pencil in the Celtics for a repeat and Tatum as a top-5 MVP candidate.
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Post#345 » by AEnigma » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:30 am

bigboi wrote:A lot of you are going to get exposed this season. It’s hilarious. Remember I said Tatum is winning MVP and brown will be first team all nba.

If that happens I am sure you will remind us all, but when it does not, I expect the usual silence.
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Post#346 » by bigboi » Wed Oct 23, 2024 3:47 am

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bigboi wrote:A lot of you are going to get exposed this season. It’s hilarious. Remember I said Tatum is winning MVP and brown will be first team all nba.

If that happens I am sure you will remind us all, but when it does not, I expect the usual silence.


Usual silence? When have I been silent? Celtics won and dominated like I said, Jokic didn’t make out the west like I said, Luka and Kyrie laid an egg like I said. So explain “the usual silence”. Oh wait, you can’t. Stay mad
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Post#347 » by Peregrine01 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:22 am

Ant’s really unimpressive as a playmaker. Pounds the air outta the ball.
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Post#348 » by AEnigma » Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:01 am

bigboi wrote:
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bigboi wrote:A lot of you are going to get exposed this season. It’s hilarious. Remember I said Tatum is winning MVP and brown will be first team all nba.

If that happens I am sure you will remind us all, but when it does not, I expect the usual silence.

Usual silence? When have I been silent? Celtics won and dominated like I said, Jokic didn’t make out the west like I said, Luka and Kyrie laid an egg like I said. So explain “the usual silence”. Oh wait, you can’t. Stay mad

Uh huh. And what exactly were you saying in 2023? I remember a comical amount of chirping over the Warriors in 2023; where was the mea culpa?

No one is “mad,” but I am certainly tired of this empty jawing from yet another Boston frontrunner fan.
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Post#349 » by bigboi » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:58 am

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AEnigma wrote:If that happens I am sure you will remind us all, but when it does not, I expect the usual silence.

Usual silence? When have I been silent? Celtics won and dominated like I said, Jokic didn’t make out the west like I said, Luka and Kyrie laid an egg like I said. So explain “the usual silence”. Oh wait, you can’t. Stay mad

Uh huh. And what exactly were you saying in 2023? I remember a comical amount of chirping over the Warriors in 2023; where was the mea culpa?

No one is “mad,” but I am certainly tired of this empty jawing from yet another Boston frontrunner fan.


Are you serious rn? I was banned off GB. Hence why I talk my stuff in player comparisons. You really can’t be serious rn. I’ve kept completely consistent with my posts. You really tried it. Keep crying some more while your favorite team stays trash
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

Bird would have won 4 rings with that team, in this weak ass era of basketball.
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Post#350 » by tsherkin » Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:28 pm

itsxtray wrote:Tatum's issue last season was that his 3 ball abandoned him throughout the playoffs and the Olympics. If he gets it back, pencil in the Celtics for a repeat and Tatum as a top-5 MVP candidate.



Peregrine01 wrote:Ant’s really unimpressive as a playmaker. Pounds the air outta the ball.


These are connected statements. If you rock massively high-volume 3pt shooting and dont really use the middle spaces, you have huge variance. Tatum, of course, was brutal the whole postseason, which is less common.

But yeah. Neither is a stunning playmaker. Ant loves his 3 way too much. Tatum at least gets off-ball into the post and knows how to use himself as a decoy. Ant... if his J isnt going from outside, he's pretty bleh on offense, tbh. And yeah, he overdribbles a lot, though that is common in younger players.
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Post#351 » by AEnigma » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:27 pm

bigboi wrote:
AEnigma wrote:
bigboi wrote:Usual silence? When have I been silent? Celtics won and dominated like I said, Jokic didn’t make out the west like I said, Luka and Kyrie laid an egg like I said. So explain “the usual silence”. Oh wait, you can’t. Stay mad

Uh huh. And what exactly were you saying in 2023? I remember a comical amount of chirping over the Warriors in 2023; where was the mea culpa?

No one is “mad,” but I am certainly tired of this empty jawing from yet another Boston frontrunner fan.

Are you serious rn? I was banned off GB. Hence why I talk my stuff in player comparisons. You really can’t be serious rn. I’ve kept completely consistent with my posts. You really tried it. Keep crying some more while your favorite team stays trash

I would never accuse you of inconsistency. You behave very consistently.
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Post#352 » by Peregrine01 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:35 pm

tsherkin wrote:Ant loves his 3 way too much. Tatum at least gets off-ball into the post and knows how to use himself as a decoy. Ant... if his J isnt going from outside, he's pretty bleh on offense, tbh. And yeah, he overdribbles a lot, though that is common in younger players.


NBA media has been trying hard to make him the new face of the league but I just don’t see it.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#353 » by tsherkin » Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:55 pm

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tsherkin wrote:Ant loves his 3 way too much. Tatum at least gets off-ball into the post and knows how to use himself as a decoy. Ant... if his J isnt going from outside, he's pretty bleh on offense, tbh. And yeah, he overdribbles a lot, though that is common in younger players.


NBA media has been trying hard to make him the new face of the league but I just don’t see it.


They recognize the utility of one, but forcing it never works. Ant isnt it either.

I am low-key hoping for the Thunder to win a title so we can all hype up a star who isnt violently inconsistent from huge 3pt volume. Or Denver, but their team doesnt look good enough around Jokic, sadly.
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Post#354 » by parsnips33 » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:05 pm

I feel like Donte is gonna force his way into the starting lineup before too long
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Post#355 » by Clyde Frazier » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:10 pm

parsnips33 wrote:I feel like Donte is gonna force his way into the starting lineup before too long


He's such a solid piece. I have no takeaways from 1 game re: KAT/randle, but will definitely miss donte on the knicks. Lights out shooter, competent defender and can fit pretty much anywhere.
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Post#356 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Oct 23, 2024 7:07 pm

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Re: 2024-25 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#357 » by RCM88x » Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:53 am

Lonzo's comeback has got to be one of the more impressive things I can remember. To miss two and a half seasons and comeback is wild. I didn't think there was a chance in heck he'd see an NBA floor again.
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Post#358 » by bigboi » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:28 am

Lamelo way better than Hali. Lamelo is poor mans Luka. Buddy is insane. Plays at his own pace
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Lebron made it to the finals with that cleveland team.

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Post#359 » by KembaWalker » Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:59 am

bigboi wrote:Lamelo way better than Hali. Lamelo is poor mans Luka. Buddy is insane. Plays at his own pace


This sites always been aggressively incorrect about LaMelo Ball, if you’re judging ability on the court and not health he has always been in the same tier with Edwards and Haliburton.
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Post#360 » by Colbinii » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:02 am

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bigboi wrote:Lamelo way better than Hali. Lamelo is poor mans Luka. Buddy is insane. Plays at his own pace


This sites always been aggressively incorrect about LaMelo Ball, if you’re judging ability on the court and not health he has always been in the same tier with Edwards and Haliburton.



As regular season players, I think there is an argument that both halliburton and ball can be more impactful in the night-to-night basis then Edwards. Where Edward separates himself from both halliburton and ball is he is an incredible defensive Talent and his offensive skill set scales up in the playoffs.

I'm excited to see ball and halliburton in more playoff runs as they try to stack up against Edwards who has had two tremendous playoff runs so far.

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