2023-24 NBA Season Discussion

[Statlanta]

So about Minny/Denver being the real Finals.... we still on that?

Series still not over. I know you enjoying being a meme fan, your Mavs in 4 GB vote post, but it can be 2-2 again much like the last series

[Texas Chuck]

So about Minny/Denver being the real Finals.... we still on that?

Series still not over. I know you enjoying being a meme fan, your Mavs in 4 GB vote post, but it can be 2-2 again much like the last series

Oh of course it can.

But you can't call that series the real finals if in the very next round the winner of that series is down 0-2 at home. Even if Minny wins 4 out of 5, it shows Dallas(and who knows maybe OKC) is a worthy conference finalist.

My GB post was just about stupid Mavs homers who like to lecture me for being objective. So I went full homer.

[lessthanjake]

Saying the Nuggets/Wolves series was the real finals was always silly when there was a 10+ SRS team in the other conference. The fact that the Nuggets/Wolves winner stood a decent chance of losing in the conference finals (since OKC and Dallas are both good) just added to it.

[Prez]

The "series XYZ is the real finals" stuff is silly much of the time. I remember hearing a ton of that stuff in the 2022 Celtics/Bucks series before Steph let everyone know what time it was in the finals. Styles make fights and Minnesota is finding out the hard way that Luka/Kyrie ain't Jamal Murray and the Mavs paint defense ain't a Jokic paint defense.

[OhayoKD]

So about Minny/Denver being the real Finals.... we still on that?

Series still not over. I know you enjoying being a meme fan, your Mavs in 4 GB vote post, but it can be 2-2 again much like the last series

Oh of course it can.

But you can't call that series the real finals if in the very next round the winner of that series is down 0-2 at home. Even if Minny wins 4 out of 5, it shows Dallas(and who knows maybe OKC) is a worthy conference finalist.

My GB post was just about stupid Mavs homers who like to lecture me for being objective. So I went full homer.

As long as Minny/Denver remains the closest series and Minny wins, it will have a real claim to being the real finals.

[bigboi]

Series still not over. I know you enjoying being a meme fan, your Mavs in 4 GB vote post, but it can be 2-2 again much like the last series

Oh of course it can.

But you can't call that series the real finals if in the very next round the winner of that series is down 0-2 at home. Even if Minny wins 4 out of 5, it shows Dallas(and who knows maybe OKC) is a worthy conference finalist.

My GB post was just about stupid Mavs homers who like to lecture me for being objective. So I went full homer.

As long as Minny/Denver remains the closest series and Minny wins, it will have a real claim to being the real finals.

Again neither of these teams stand a chance against Boston lmao. Yall are going to see

[GSP]

Saying the Nuggets/Wolves series was the real finals was always silly when there was a 10+ SRS team in the other conference. The fact that the Nuggets/Wolves winner stood a decent chance of losing in the conference finals (since OKC and Dallas are both good) just added to it.

This it was really silly and surprisingly alot of ppl here were backing that claim. And this isnt revionism either since i was saying i didnt buy that narrative during the middle of the series

[Peregrine01]

Watching Luka put McDaniels on his hip and just ride him to the rim again and again has been surprising to me. Luka’s just an ox and McDaniels hasn’t been able to bother his dribble or prevent him from getting to his spots much at all. In the last series he had Murray completely bottled up. Pretty stark the difference here.

[GSP]

Watching Luka put McDaniels on his hip and just ride him to the rim again and again has been surprising to me. Luka’s just an ox and McDaniels hasn’t been able to bother his dribble or prevent him from getting to his spots much at all. In the last series he had Murray completely bottled up. Pretty stark the difference here.

Luke has 2 inches and 40lbs on him not sure what ppl were expecting. It seems ppl always forget just how big Luka is. Lu Dort even giving up height is only 10-15lbs lighter and is one of the only wings physically strong enough to bother him.

[Peregrine01]

Watching Luka put McDaniels on his hip and just ride him to the rim again and again has been surprising to me. Luka’s just an ox and McDaniels hasn’t been able to bother his dribble or prevent him from getting to his spots much at all. In the last series he had Murray completely bottled up. Pretty stark the difference here.

Luke has 2 inches and 40lbs on him not sure what ppl were expecting. It seems ppl always forget just how big Luka is. Lu Dort even giving up height is only 10-15lbs lighter and is one of the only wings physically strong enough to bother him.

Yeah. This to me has been the difference in this series. Nuggets had trouble even getting the ball past half court and only made the series competitive when they had AG and Jokic bring the ball up. It was better but still stalled their offense. Mavs so far really haven’t had these troubles.

[Peregrine01]

Watching Luka put McDaniels on his hip and just ride him to the rim again and again has been surprising to me. Luka’s just an ox and McDaniels hasn’t been able to bother his dribble or prevent him from getting to his spots much at all. In the last series he had Murray completely bottled up. Pretty stark the difference here.

Luke has 2 inches and 40lbs on him not sure what ppl were expecting. It seems ppl always forget just how big Luka is. Lu Dort even giving up height is only 10-15lbs lighter and is one of the only wings physically strong enough to bother him.

Yeah. This to me has been the difference in this series. Nuggets had trouble even getting the ball past half court and only made the series competitive when they had AG and Jokic bring the ball up. It was better but still stalled their offense. Mavs so far really haven’t had these troubles.

[bigboi]

Watching Luka put McDaniels on his hip and just ride him to the rim again and again has been surprising to me. Luka’s just an ox and McDaniels hasn’t been able to bother his dribble or prevent him from getting to his spots much at all. In the last series he had Murray completely bottled up. Pretty stark the difference here.

Luke has 2 inches and 40lbs on him not sure what ppl were expecting. It seems ppl always forget just how big Luka is. Lu Dort even giving up height is only 10-15lbs lighter and is one of the only wings physically strong enough to bother him.

Yeah. This to me has been the difference in this series. Nuggets had trouble even getting the ball past half court and only made the series competitive when they had AG and Jokic bring the ball up. It was better but still stalled their offense. Mavs so far really haven’t had these troubles.

Nuggets lmao. They sucked, they’re not here for a reason. Jokic was ineffective.

[tsherkin]

I mean, yeah everythinghs looks good when shots fall, but shot efficiency is not some compketely random outcome

Open catch and shot is a higher % shot that a tightly contested one or a shot after avoiding closeouts which were the shots jokic was generating out of being doubled

If you think it's Jokic's fault when guys aren't making clean looks, I don't know what to tell you. The contested shots, sure, but that's not all they were bricking.

[The-Power]

Edwards' problems with decision-making cost them in the end. He'll learn from it but it's a steep learning curve in the playoffs, especially versus a strong defense such as Dallas. Luka dissected them in the PnR and the Timberwolves still have to find a way to limit Dallas in the paint.

Nonetheless, it's been a very close series thus far with a couple lucky breaks for Dallas and Minnesota has shown they can play on the road, so I won't call it a series just yet. But you can notice that while the Timberwolves may be a better team for the first part of the game, Dallas looks much more comfortable executing on offense towards the end. It's the difference between having Luka and Kyrie versus Edwards and <insert name> as your primary shot creators when the stakes are highest.

I'm curious to see what adjustments Minnesota can make but it's going to take a lot for them to beat this Dallas team 4 out of 5 times. I find it hard to imagine but who knows, I also didn't think they would beat the Nuggets.

[ardee]

Mavs/Celtics, assuming it happens, is going to be an echo of 2016 Cavs/Warriors and I am HERE for it.

[penbeast0]

The two Dallas centers were 14 for 16 last game, Gobert has been shading away from his man to help too often. I know that's the scheme but you need to recover better instead of letting them get so man open shots at the rim.

[WestGOAT]

The two Dallas centers were 14 for 16 last game, Gobert has been shading away from his man to help too often. I know that's the scheme but you need to recover better instead of letting them get so man open shots at the rim.

I think that's partly also on KAT, I thought he improved his defensive effort this season, but he has too rotate quicker on those plays.

[bigboi]

Since this is overreaction forum. When Tatum outplays Luka. Will we call him best player now

[Texas Chuck]

The two Dallas centers were 14 for 16 last game, Gobert has been shading away from his man to help too often. I know that's the scheme but you need to recover better instead of letting them get so man open shots at the rim.

Or

the coach could have others (Towns primarily) rotate to cut that off and see if Dallas can make the corner 3's. This is a scheme issue and Gobert is doing exactly what he's being asked to do. Asking him to shut down Luka/Ky on the drive and get back and prevent the lob simply isn't a reasonable ask.

Cannot believe how many people are still blaming Gobert for these losses when Ant and Towns have been terrible.

But its like the Joker stuff. People want it to be their fault, so its their fault and we just don't look any further.

[clearlynotjesse]

Luka's tough shotmaking is squarely in the middle of Dirk's "This is the best shot I'm gonna get, so I'll get really good at it" and Kobe's "I'm gonna hit this shot in your eye because you are beneath me"